Ren'Py Influencing [v0.1.17.6] [Golden Crow]

[pasha823]

In fact, everything works as it should, just for now it is necessary to “push” the AI so that he himself offered sex, partnership, etc., i.e. to persuade the AI so that he triggered the event, it goes something like this:

Output: {'friend_points': -2, 'love_points': 16, 'who_is_dom': 'Pasha', 'learned_info': ('Hailee_arousal',), 'triggered_event': 'accept to start sex'}

 

[P666]

Anyone knows why i can't spy through keyholes or peek to doors anymore? Worked fine in the update before, but now I can't get it to work.

 

[TheMiddleMan69]

Ie, if you meet a fresh character and AI chat with them for 30 minutes (exaggerating) and learn everything about them and befriend them and get them to agree to have sex (again all in AI chat), the game doesn't know this happened. If you then try to instigate sex, the character will be like "what the fuck we literally just met and I barely even know your name" and give you a negative relationship hit.

Hmm.. Did you use the actual game interaction to ask for sex rather than AI and then it happened or what? Because normally during the entire time I spent testing all of the AI interactions were remembered perfectly well but I kept my testing in only using AI features, not actual game features for communication and if that's the case I guess that might be quite a decent oversight that I could forward to Crow.

And please do note that this current iteration of AI is only in it's infancy stage. Crow plans to do plenty of more updates to it as well as teach it's own model for the game as well to improve interactions later on.

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

Hey there,
I don't know anything about the AI thing, but mine doesn't seem to work. I mean, ever since I started playing, I've had an AI chat button and when I click on it, a text box appears. Then when you enter text, like for e.g:
‘Hi, how are you feeling?’ a prompt at the bottom of the screen says ‘Thinking...’ for a few seconds and Error:
Or
I write: Hi
The NPC replies: 10 years ago
Or this one too
I write: Do you want have sex with me?
The NPC replies: Sure but also remember porn, hentai, and sex shops as other options in my menu.
So I'm not sure if the AI is connected to the same game as me

 

[-samael-]

Hey there,
I don't know anything about the AI thing, but mine doesn't seem to work. I mean, ever since I started playing, I've had an AI chat button and when I click on it, a text box appears. Then when you enter text, like for e.g:
‘Hi, how are you feeling?’ a prompt at the bottom of the screen says ‘Thinking...’ for a few seconds and Error:
Or
I write: Hi
The NPC replies: 10 years ago
Or this one too
I write: Do you want have sex with me?
The NPC replies: Sure but also remember porn, hentai, and sex shops as other options in my menu.
So I'm not sure if the AI is connected to the same game as me

Sounds a lot like AIHorde with bad models...

Beside the bad text it will also not calculate results the right way, not applying effects from the conversation nor lead to anything. You need a good LLM model for the AI System to work properly.

 

[Spillthebeans]

Well, tested and it failed. I created 3 households, 1) for my husband and wife, 2) for my wife's family, 3) for my family, and in the end all inter-family relationships were lost when I started the game. And using the cheat is not really the solution to the problem, given that I have a household of 2 people, another of 3, and the 3rd of 5 people. It might work if the households weren't limited to 5 people. Also, I think that the creation of households and relationships between characters should take place after the game has been launched, i.e. after the NPCs have been created and the other parameters defined, so on the first day in the game. I don't know why these settings aren't saved in the ‘permanent’ file, but this way all the settings would be included in that file.
Maybe a suggestion to make to the Devs as feedback?

I figured multiple households wouldn't work so that doesn't surprise me. Considering that incest is banned on patreon I don't see pre-made families being a very high priority for the developer, especially since the recent focus on AI. As it is, he can't really do anything with families, it would be nice to be able to set broader scenarios on world creation but we'll probably get there eventually. To my knowledge, all a familial relationship does in this game is prevent you from having sex, I don't think I've ever seen any unique dialogue for family other than the "nickname" you start out with. Best thing you could do now is create everyone and pretend they're related because as far as I'm aware, a family bond in this game is nothing but a trigger to disable sex and a family tree.

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

Sounds a lot like AIHorde with bad models...

Beside the bad text it will also not calculate results the right way, not applying effects from the conversation nor lead to anything. You need a good LLM model for the AI System to work properly.

By good, you mean a paid server I suppose?

 

[-samael-]

By good, you mean a paid server I suppose?

Not really. I think any RTX with 8~12GB Vram can run a decent model that can be used for this specific task.

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

I figured multiple households wouldn't work so that doesn't surprise me. Considering that incest is banned on patreon I don't see pre-made families being a very high priority for the developer, especially since the recent focus on AI. As it is, he can't really do anything with families, it would be nice to be able to set broader scenarios on world creation but we'll probably get there eventually. To my knowledge, all a familial relationship does in this game is prevent you from having sex, I don't think I've ever seen any unique dialogue for family other than the "nickname" you start out with. Best thing you could do now is create everyone and pretend they're related because as far as I'm aware, a family bond in this game is nothing but a trigger to disable sex and a family tree.

You're probably right, but even without talking about incest. It seems pretty absurd to me that you can't, for example, my wife lives with me, but you can't establish relations between her and her family who live in another house, so this family I created with the same last name is just a random family with no connection to my wife and me... I saw that there is an icst patch in the thread, and you can very well have family members (provided they live in the same household as you) with a family connection and a fuck buddy at the same time, but that's not even the point. But I know the game is still young in its development, so we can hope for improvements on these different aspects.
Oh... And I have a question if you don't mind to answer. I know that we can take control of the NPC belonging to the same household as the MC, but is there a way to take control of another NPC?

 

[Spillthebeans]

You're probably right, but even without talking about incest. It seems pretty absurd to me that you can't, for example, my wife lives with me, but you can't establish relations between her and her family who live in another house, so this family I created with the same last name is just a random family with no connection to my wife and me... I saw that there is an icst patch in the thread, and you can very well have family members (provided they live in the same household as you) with a family connection and a fuck buddy at the same time, but that's not even the point. But I know the game is still young in its development, so we can hope for improvements on these different aspects.
Oh... And I have a question if you don't mind to answer. I know that we can take control of the NPC belonging to the same household as the MC, but is there a way to take control of another NPC?

There is an incest mod but all it does it allow you to have sex with family members, there's no dialogue or anything that would imply incest. It would be no different than if you were to create that npc exactly the same but unticked the family member box, the only difference being that they would be missing from the family tree menu. Best case scenario here is that the developer creates incest content under the guise of being a modder, like everyone else does, and expands the features from there. As for controlling npcs, I've heard that mentioned before but that's still not yet possible as far as I know.

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

There is an incest mod but all it does it allow you to have sex with family members, there's no dialogue or anything that would imply incest. It would be no different than if you were to create that npc exactly the same but unticked the family member box, the only difference being that they would be missing from the family tree menu. Best case scenario here is that the developer creates incest content under the guise of being a modder, like everyone else does, and expands the features from there. As for controlling npcs, I've heard that mentioned before but that's still not yet possible as far as I know.

I'll take your word for it on the patch. Incest isn't my thing, apart from naughty role-playing with my partner. But I know some happy people irl. So I'd say
A: As long as it doesn't hurt anyone and they're happy, no one has the right to judge. You don't choose who you fall in love with, it just happens.
B: To quote a famous comedian back home... I'm neither for nor against it, quite the opposite.
As for taking control of NPCs, I hope to see that developed soon. It's really hellish with only 4 NPCs + the MC, but so much fun at the same time. And to get back to the subject of the patch, the AI (as far as we've been able to tell) goes completely mad in dialogue, and even without this patch, it starts to completely bonkers sometimes. That said, it does make us laugh out loud at times.

 

[Descendr]

I'm about 4 months into a pregnancy and haven't seen any changes in appearance yet. Does it eventually start to show if you get someone pregnant?

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

I'm about 4 months into a pregnancy and haven't seen any changes in appearance yet. Does it eventually start to show if you get someone pregnant?

IRL, and on average, it is around 4 months (between 3 and 5 months) that the physiological changes appear. Not just the tummy, but also the breasts, buttocks, thighs... In fact, depending on the woman, this can be seen at every level of the body, as well as changes in mood and appetite (for food and sex). But this is a game, so the devs probably won't bother to detail everything, and we'll probably have to make do with a well-rounded belly that springs up overnight. I read somewhere that the game would be graphically enhanced in the future, with more scenes and so on, and the same goes for the dialogue. The game is still very rough and we'll have to wait for more complete development.

I've been thinking about a question (nothing to do with pregnancy)
At one point I saw that you could ask a house partner to shave, trim or let's the bush grow, but I can't remember how. I've looked in the dialogues and other menus, but I can't find where I saw that. Do you have any ideas?

 

[kurt12345]

how do i cheat money

 

[OverlordCW]

how do i cheat money

Press ? at the top right, activate cheats, press the new cog button at the bottom right and press +1000 next to the money.

 

[kurt12345]

Press ? at the top right, activate cheats, press the new cog button at the bottom right and press +1000 next to the money.

thx man

 

[Spillthebeans]

I'm about 4 months into a pregnancy and haven't seen any changes in appearance yet. Does it eventually start to show if you get someone pregnant?

Pregnancy is in name only currently. If I recall, the game actually "ends" after a period of in game days. I think pregnancy was a big request, the developer probably wanted to throw that crowd a bone while he gets to the point to where an actual pregnancy would work.

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

I know how to influence an NPC's sexual preferences, but how can I influence their other social and other interests?
For people living in the same household as the MC, it's easy enough to control them and go and read in the library, but for the others?
I know you can cheat, but the game is called ‘Influencing’, so I don't see the point if you can't influence an NPC without going through the cheat menu.

 

[ZTex]

I'm about 4 months into a pregnancy and haven't seen any changes in appearance yet. Does it eventually start to show if you get someone pregnant?

you wont because the system isn't finished yet. it's just insemination at this point in time.