Ren'Py Influencing [v0.1.17.8] [Golden Crow]

[borednephi]

This game has been a lot of fun! The AI is doing a solid job being fairly orientation fluid. I had a fully gay character that had a pretty easy time of it getting around and getting busy. .

Things I noticed:
- you meet an NPC with 4 kids and a wife and they say they've never had sex (maybe that's so they can lie and "cheat" on their spouse, but I assumed they'd hide having kids then for consistency).
- I watch my partner have sex with an NPC in a WC stall (cuckold play scene I was trying out) and later I see that same NPC and cheekily ask if they enjoyed me watching, and they were like what do you mean, I never had sex with your partner? Again my player was in the stall with them (same trigger for the "catching a cheater" scene). I know NPCs keep track of sexual events so the AI should've known what I was talking about I thought.
- I've had few situations where I lost my virginity "repeatedly" for the same gentalia (lost my penile virginity several times in one day, heh)
- had one odd scene where an NPC pulled me in to a bathroom stall saying they were horny as fuck (cottaging is a thing here) and when my player asked for sex, via AI chat or the interface, that same character suddenly was saying, "but we're just friends, I don't know if I like you that way... this is all so suddenly... LOL) it felt schizophrenic.

That's from several hours of having a lot of fun with the game w/ the patron AI.
Things like toys, new sex positions likes others have said would be fun. Tattoos and piercings too.
I'm curious how the money aspect builds over time in the model since a huge consequence of cheating is divorce (alimony/child support etc). Opposite coin I would have liked to marry my in game partner after a bit of build up. I did enjoy explaining over an over to the AI what an open relationship meant.

 

[justforlustdoll]

This game has been a lot of fun! The AI is doing a solid job being fairly orientation fluid. I had a fully gay character that had a pretty easy time of it getting around and getting busy. .

Things I noticed:
- you meet an NPC with 4 kids and a wife and they say they've never had sex (maybe that's so they can lie and "cheat" on their spouse, but I assumed they'd hide having kids then for consistency).
- I watch my partner have sex with an NPC in a WC stall (cuckold play scene I was trying out) and later I see that same NPC and cheekily ask if they enjoyed me watching, and they were like what do you mean, I never had sex with your partner? Again my player was in the stall with them (same trigger for the "catching a cheater" scene). I know NPCs keep track of sexual events so the AI should've known what I was talking about I thought.
- I've had few situations where I lost my virginity "repeatedly" for the same gentalia (lost my penile virginity several times in one day, heh)
- had one odd scene where an NPC pulled me in to a bathroom stall saying they were horny as fuck (cottaging is a thing here) and when my player asked for sex, via AI chat or the interface, that same character suddenly was saying, "but we're just friends, I don't know if I like you that way... this is all so suddenly... LOL) it felt schizophrenic.

That's from several hours of having a lot of fun with the game w/ the patron AI.
Things like toys, new sex positions likes others have said would be fun. Tattoos and piercings too.
I'm curious how the money aspect builds over time in the model since a huge consequence of cheating is divorce (alimony/child support etc). Opposite coin I would have liked to marry my in game partner after a bit of build up. I did enjoy explaining over an over to the AI what an open relationship meant.

Yeah I don't think the NPC AIs can access interactions with characters they're not conversing with, since I encountered something similar. You can control one player character, become best buddies with an NPC, then approach the NPC with another character and AI chat them about the first player character; they'll have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Ragnafia]

I like the concept of the game

Wish improve the Animation

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

I haven't played the latest version but you can kind of get around that somewhat by cheating maximum dominance between you and the person you want to leave the house, then tell them to leave, they'll then move out into their own apartment(s) with a relationship hit but you can cheat that back. I'm not sure of what happens when you have a couple leave individually, likely they would move into their own separate apartments. As far as friends go, apparently in this newest version you can create custom, separate households, so you could create whatever friends you want and cheat an initial relationship after character creation.

OK, I think I've understood how to do it, but I haven't had time to check, my pc crashed due to a power cut. So it's still to be checked, but I think you first need to create all the characters you want to implement yourself and save them. But places are limited to 5 per household, so you then have to delete them, but only from the household, not from the ‘load’ list, so that you only have the characters you want in your household. Once you've finished setting up your household and determined the relationships between all the characters you've created (even those who won't be living under the same roof), you need to create another household, loading the characters who will be included in it and then loading those who are already living in household N°1 to determine the relationships again. For example, I'd made a first attempt with my family (home N°1) and my wife's family (home N°2). But when I loaded my wife into home N°2 (her family) the parent/child/sibling relationships had disappeared. So I re-established the relationships between them, and during my short test by starting a game, all the relationships seemed to be OK, although I didn't have time to check everything because of the power cut.

 

[anderson1]

The AI is pure gold! Completely worth the subscribe, keep up the good work!

 

[Dnds]

The AI is pure gold! Completely worth the subscribe, keep up the good work!

The one in his patreon is pretty good too, very fast responses and easy to set up, I ended up subscribing to get access to it.

 

[OverlordCW]

Golden Crow Not sure if it is bug or intended behaviour but sometimes it is impossible to climax in a sex scene even with maxing pleasure with cheats because the notch on the pleasure bar is all the way to the right (maybe because of high compatibility?). It probably needs to be clamped to 90% or something so it is always possible to climax.

 

[-samael-]

Golden Crow Not sure if it is bug or intended behaviour but sometimes it is impossible to climax in a sex scene even with maxing pleasure with cheats because the notch on the pleasure bar is all the way to the right (maybe because of high compatibility?). It probably needs to be clamped to 90% or something so it is always possible to climax.

It has been reported on Discord and he said it's a bug. He even provided a file with the fix that will probably be in the next update. Alternatively, if you reduce some fetishes that are unnecessary, this problem resolves itself.

 

[OverlordCW]

It has been reported on Discord and he said it's a bug. He even provided a file with the fix that will probably be in the next update. Alternatively, if you reduce some fetishes that are unnecessary, this problem resolves itself.

Thanks. I have fixed it myself by editing the script.rpy file.

 

[zexorix]

So, I am not sure if I'm using this right. I downloaded kobold and the model for it, and with q6 the dialogs with npc are amazing and very realistic. The problem I have is that my dialogs do not have any real effects on the characters and their relationships. For example, I get into a very deep relationship with a character, we have sex, talk about moving in together, starting life together, all of this inside the ai dialog, but then I cant even hug that character outside of the dialog. Is this supposed to happen because the game is still in development or did I mess something up?

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

I haven't played the latest version but you can kind of get around that somewhat by cheating maximum dominance between you and the person you want to leave the house, then tell them to leave, they'll then move out into their own apartment(s) with a relationship hit but you can cheat that back. I'm not sure of what happens when you have a couple leave individually, likely they would move into their own separate apartments. As far as friends go, apparently in this newest version you can create custom, separate households, so you could create whatever friends you want and cheat an initial relationship after character creation.

OK, I think I've understood how to do it, but I haven't had time to check, my pc crashed due to a power cut. So it's still to be checked, but I think you first need to create all the characters you want to implement yourself and save them. But places are limited to 5 per household, so you then have to delete them, but only from the household, not from the ‘load’ list, so that you only have the characters you want in your household. Once you've finished setting up your household and determined the relationships between all the characters you've created (even those who won't be living under the same roof), you need to create another household, loading the characters who will be included in it and then loading those who are already living in household N°1 to determine the relationships again. For example, I'd made a first attempt with my family (home N°1) and my wife's family (home N°2). But when I loaded my wife into home N°2 (her family) the parent/child/sibling relationships had disappeared. So I re-established the relationships between them, and during my short test by starting a game, all the relationships seemed to be OK, although I didn't have time to check everything because of the power cut.

Well, tested and it failed. I created 3 households, 1) for my husband and wife, 2) for my wife's family, 3) for my family, and in the end all inter-family relationships were lost when I started the game. And using the cheat is not really the solution to the problem, given that I have a household of 2 people, another of 3, and the 3rd of 5 people. It might work if the households weren't limited to 5 people. Also, I think that the creation of households and relationships between characters should take place after the game has been launched, i.e. after the NPCs have been created and the other parameters defined, so on the first day in the game. I don't know why these settings aren't saved in the ‘permanent’ file, but this way all the settings would be included in that file.
Maybe a suggestion to make to the Devs as feedback?

 

[anderson1]

The one in his patreon is pretty good too, very fast responses and easy to set up, I ended up subscribing to get access to it.

Yeah, I agree, its the one I am using as well.

 

[borednephi]

I did have one hilarious moment where my Boss at the night club flirted with me constantly, he was 'Unfaithful, Easily Horny and Shameless' LOL combination of traits. So I'm like fine let's bang it out. He takes me to his house... we walk past his 3 kids (hey kiddos gonna fuck your dad...) so into the bathroom we go to start fucking ... we are like 2 rounds in and suddenly his lady doctor wife busts in the bathroom and is like "I TOLD YOU I DON'T CARE WHO YOU HAVE SEX WITH BUT I DON'T WANT SEE IT! I NEED TO USE THE BATHROOM! I'M LEAVING!" And the Dad doesn't miss a beat and he's says "oh good, she's gone away. Let's keep fucking shall we?" LOL, It was kinda awesome... I'm like this is South Park.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Wow. This art is NOT jackoff material.

Looks interesting. But too bad about that.

 

[iron4doves]

Was really excited about the AI but it's unfortunately just a gimmick as-implemented. It is pretty neat that, when you have sex with a character, the associated text gets loaded into your chat history, so when you AI chat with the character afterwards, they "remember" doing it and talk about it. However, it doesn't go the other way. Ie, if you meet a fresh character and AI chat with them for 30 minutes (exaggerating) and learn everything about them and befriend them and get them to agree to have sex (again all in AI chat), the game doesn't know this happened. If you then try to instigate sex, the character will be like "what the fuck we literally just met and I barely even know your name" and give you a negative relationship hit.

In practice this means anything you do in AI chat is irrelevant. The only interaction between game and AI seems to be the sex interactions themselves getting dumped into the AI, but they're all pretty samey and, again, if you talk with the character afterwards and are like "Damn that was really good sex you wanna be fuck buddies?" and they agree, the game doesn't know this.

If the dev figures out how to make the AI chat and game interact with each other on a more substantial level, this could be gold. If this is where the dev leaves it, imo it's a waste of time and the game is better experienced without it.

 

[iron4doves]

Thanks to all the people on the previous pages asking and answering questions - lots of useful info

 

[pasha823]

In fact, everything works as it should, just for now it is necessary to “push” the AI so that he himself offered sex, partnership, etc., i.e. to persuade the AI so that he triggered the event, it goes something like this:

Output: {'friend_points': -2, 'love_points': 16, 'who_is_dom': 'Pasha', 'learned_info': ('Hailee_arousal',), 'triggered_event': 'accept to start sex'}

 

[P666]

Anyone knows why i can't spy through keyholes or peek to doors anymore? Worked fine in the update before, but now I can't get it to work.

 

[TheMiddleMan69]

Ie, if you meet a fresh character and AI chat with them for 30 minutes (exaggerating) and learn everything about them and befriend them and get them to agree to have sex (again all in AI chat), the game doesn't know this happened. If you then try to instigate sex, the character will be like "what the fuck we literally just met and I barely even know your name" and give you a negative relationship hit.

Hmm.. Did you use the actual game interaction to ask for sex rather than AI and then it happened or what? Because normally during the entire time I spent testing all of the AI interactions were remembered perfectly well but I kept my testing in only using AI features, not actual game features for communication and if that's the case I guess that might be quite a decent oversight that I could forward to Crow.

And please do note that this current iteration of AI is only in it's infancy stage. Crow plans to do plenty of more updates to it as well as teach it's own model for the game as well to improve interactions later on.

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

Hey there,
I don't know anything about the AI thing, but mine doesn't seem to work. I mean, ever since I started playing, I've had an AI chat button and when I click on it, a text box appears. Then when you enter text, like for e.g:
‘Hi, how are you feeling?’ a prompt at the bottom of the screen says ‘Thinking...’ for a few seconds and Error:
Or
I write: Hi
The NPC replies: 10 years ago
Or this one too
I write: Do you want have sex with me?
The NPC replies: Sure but also remember porn, hentai, and sex shops as other options in my menu.
So I'm not sure if the AI is connected to the same game as me