Ren'Py Innocence or Money [S2 E1 Fix1] [MarcialART]
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It'll never get so interesting sadly, pretty much going to be like this until subscribers drop off like flies. This game is classified as "erotic" and I know it's just me but when I see that I'm like nah this is gonna be boring. I don't think it'll get too intense.
This game is absolutely brilliant, really good balance between laking-money and interesting scenes. It develops very well the tension, and you become attached to the characters ! Thanks a lot for everything !
I think the creator is trying to create an actual plot and storyline. So stop your bitching and go fap to some other game. You are always on here dissing this game. If you can't appreciate it just go away.
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Whats the main point of this site? I mean from what I gather it's so people can get the game without paying? Am I wrong? Isn't that worse, I mean I at least supported them for a bit, but hey yeah okay. I'm not likely going to go away either, just as everyone loves your support of this sex game people might enjoy mine at some point. Also I don't think me "dissing" this game is going to make a dent in their patrons, which for three updates a year will end up a pretty good gig I feel. As ever this my opinion, I didn't attack you for yours, it's just a silly sex game (admittedly one that rakes in the chas for some).
I use F95 as a site to test games, in case I like one, and I see that the developer works on it, then I support it. Why? Because I enjoy it and because I want the developer to continue with the project and I am willing to help him. I may be in the minority, but I'm sure there are people here who think like me. So your point that people on this page only want to download the game without paying is wrong. (I support this project and others thanks to F95)
If you have really supported the developer as I have done and still do, you can see that every week he posts updates, responds to everyone on Discord, and for just one person doing everything, it's frankly amazing, that's the reason why I support him. Even knowing that he hasn't met his last release dates, I support him, because I know he is actively developing the game.
And yes, you are always dissing this game, I still don't understand why you always continue in this thread if everything is so bad.
Hey dude ! Still there ?
Again with amazing posts...
I do not know what you think... It is fascinating until a certain extend...
You focus on certain aspects that are detrimental to the perception that newcomers can have of the game (always and only those that are detrimental) while omitting others that could bring a fair nuance, are you doing that on purpose or not?
I think people like Bricoman69 and Jimmy_BlueToo have an answer about that question...
Their point of view is understandable : What you do here is called lie by omission.
I do not know what you think, I give you the benefit of the doubt... Some criticism of yours (too few though) are facts...
My main concern about what you post is elsewhere... Your lack of objectivity which borders on bad faith...
The dev said the game is erotic (maybe not the most accurate word to use here, I can agree with that) BUT the dev also said the game will have a lot of sex scenes in it in due time...
Given that, how on earth could you jump with so much confidence to the conclusion in your post replying to fuckmymamarunnin ??
That's all ? No doubt ?HeroHate said:
Are you sure about that ?
When you say "will" (in bold at the beginning of your post quoted here) it means you know something not maybe you think it may...
Given what you have already shown to have understood about the game elsewhere (among other examples, you were able to say nothing happened in last update) makes me think without great risk to be wrong that, here, you talk too much about something you do not know enough...
What made Jimmy_BlueToo mad at you is that this post of yours implies there is no hope for anyone to have content hotter than just what we had so far later in the game when you say It'll never get so interesting sadly...
if that is what you meant, that's dishonest unless you actually know about content to come... Do you really know something ? Feel free to share what makes you so sure about what you said here...
If it is not what you meant, it is poorly written from you...
I said I do not know what you think, I give you the benefit of the doubt... Maybe I am overthinking... But the fact there is someone else (Jimmy_BlueToo and Bricoman69) to react, should at least make you reconsider the meaning of your post to show better what you think rather than argue about irrelevant details like the right or not to post here (your post to Jimmy_BlueToo).
You are responsible of what you write (in case you want to be seen as reliable) and if people misunderstand what you write, maybe, at least, say it and help them understand better what you meant, is a nice move to make...
However, by just playing the game and take time to follow the story plot revealed update after update, it is obvious the game becomes hotter and hotter...
That is what Jimmy_BlueToo said to you when he spoke about "plot" and "storyline".
That said, the dev never said anything against orgy sex content or any hardcore sex content involving the MC as long as it is not forbidden by Patreon... On the contrary, he already said that he is willing to involve MC in hardcore content like prostitution with several guys later...
It is easy to be sure and know : just ask the dev...
The only thing to understand (again... obvious for most people but seemingly not for you), the dev does not see his game as a bag in which he just put the most sex scenes he can make... Sex scenes to be present in the game must have a reason to be present... A reason driven by A STORY AND A STORYLINE !!
That includes characters development (MC and side characters like the little sister)...
How on earth does that imply the sex scenes to come to remain too soft, or too rare or not matching players expectations about hotness of them (sex scenes) ? * facepalm *
You said the game is silly ?
For someone who can say an update only have five minutes of play (you said that), when others, in the same time, who read the lines and try to follow the story, have at least 20 minutes of play, what do you really know about that ?
I already said it to you, I like to laugh... and that is funny...
Only a blind man cannot see that she accepts more and more from the perverted men who are hitting on her...HikBenAkk said:
You can find that "silly", it is your opinion... but it is not objective... I read all lines in the game and I never found any that may give me the feeling to be from a teenager fanfic...
For example, the MC was so touching in the restaurant when she tries to invite her boyfriend to have sex and him to refuse and explaining his reasons... She looked so sad...
And that's my main criticism of you: not being objective enough.
When one posts here replying to someone's question, it's to help that someone get a fair idea of the game... For that purpose being objective and have posts to be reliable, stick on facts only, are mandatory...
Personal tastes, lame extrapolations presented as facts are at best secundary, often useless or completely dishonest...
The dev never post too revealing pictures to avoid spoilers : only pictures to give a grasp about places and situations the update will deal with : never the actual hot content the update may have !!HeroHate said:
Yes, confirmed... You know nothing... I follow discussions on Discord and Patreon : when did the dev said or implied he wants to keep action to a minimum ??HeroHate said:
That is completely dishonest to say that !!
Or am I misunderstanding something ? Just say it if it is... As I said above :
You are responsible of what you write and if people misunderstand what you write, maybe, at least, to say it is a nice move to make...
About the pace of releases, the dev spoke about it : he tries to have 2-3 months pace but was unable to follow it so far. He posted in Patreon some ways he found to try to solve that "problem"... It is easy to blame him for that, but maybe it is too difficult to understand making a game is hard task... Or show a little bit of moral support (or suggest solutions) rather than bashing about that matter is too much of a move ?
Even in case of a misunderstanding (you may have not understand what the dev meant by "erotic"), is it too much to ask the dev to be sure about what you want to say to people here before speaking in such a misleading way ?
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"in due time"...BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! WHEN...sometime in the next 5 years??!! gimme a fuckin' break; n your passive-aggressive BS is SERIOUSLY weak chedder bro, so make like a $20 whore...PUT OUT OR GET OUT!!
(or else wind up like 'Project Hotwife'; oh wait, hang on a sec...how's that game doing nowadays?)
"DON'T HATE THE PLAYA, HATE THE GAME"
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it is clear that there are only aggressive and impatient people on all the subjects of the different developers who come out and / or who delay their update. it will come out when it comes out there are plenty of other things to explore and/or discover, so please be patient and stop being disrespectful.
if you don't like the speed of the devlopement helped the insult rather
if you don't like the speed of the devlopement helped the insult rather
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When people say "take your time brother" or "we don't mind brother, it takes time" do they really mean that? People are willing to throw money at these games with no actual return? Has the developer even announced the release date of the update? It seems they release seven days or so after announcing, so it really will be March at this point, three updates a year and people get angry at me?
All I want is for these developers to earn their money, this one seems to do better than most considering the simplicity of the game compared to some I have seen, animations look basic enough to me.
But hey up to those paying. Let me know when its available, after that I'll look back in closer to the next update, that'll be Summer time!!!!!
All I want is for these developers to earn their money, this one seems to do better than most considering the simplicity of the game compared to some I have seen, animations look basic enough to me.
But hey up to those paying. Let me know when its available, after that I'll look back in closer to the next update, that'll be Summer time!!!!!
It sounds to me like you're a bit jealous that this game is doing well, I wish you luck on your next attempt to create one.
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Doing too well considering the money they make I think, I know nothing about making games, so someone who knows should put me right. Is it four months worth of work in the update, and how much time are they spending on it? I see this as a product, again I did support them with money, so I'm entitled to state my opinion.
Also this game would do EVEN better if they put more work into it and I'm pretty sure there will be no pay off in the upcomig update, just more bait at the end to reel them in, its all cliffhangers with no pay off. This game is not alone, most are like it, they want money for less effort.
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you should also know that many developers have their day of work and in addition their passion for developing a game, if you have added family life and children it is quite logical that there is a delay. they are not all 24/7 zombies in the development of their game
Hi "bro"
It seems you do not understand everything here...
I explain, no problem
This game is a slow burn game, it means the story is as important as sex content.
That is a choice that belongs to the dev only to make : it is HIS game !! Not yours, not mine, HIS... "bro" !!
That means the first person the content made should satisfy is the dev himself. Not you, not me, him !!
if you don't like that, no one is keeping you here. "bro"...
I like the progression and pace of MC corruption made in this game... Lucky me, the dev taste matches mine
I explain why
Even slow burn games have some objective rules to follow to be seen as good...
The main of them
Does that mean the only way to show actual progression is to have MC be fucked asap ? No ! Only when it makes sense according to the dev choices about his story...
The dev did that almost well so far. No one can deny that !
if anyone denies it, he/she just have to explain it here : I am eager to read his arguments...
You give the name of an abandonned game (I checked) different from the game here and made by another dev...fuckmymamarunnin said:(or else wind up like 'Project Hotwife'; oh wait, hang on a sec...how's that game doing nowadays?)
"DON'T HATE THE PLAYA, HATE THE GAME"
Ok and what else ?
What do you mean by that ? What is the link between the two games? I do not understand
The reasons for a project to fail are numerous...
Don't hate the player, by player you mean HeroHate ?
Fiirst of all, I am happy about the content in the game made so far, I am not the one complaining "bro"
Then why would I hate the game as you said ? "bro" ?
I think you did not read well my post to HeroHate : what I criticized Herohate for is him I see to be dishonest (lack of objectivity and claiming things he knows nothing about), I do not question anyone's tastes, Ok ?
For example, He was able to say the little sister exhibitionist content to be nonsense and presented that to be in the cons of the game : that is not acceptable....He is allowed of course to not like such content but not to say it is nonsense... There are others players who like such content, it is not nonsense for them ! I criticized him for not being objective enough and passing off his personal tastes not fulfilled as flaws...
For the other things I criticized him for, re-read my post to him...
Bye.
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Hi,
Another collector post from you
In bold in the quote the best parts...
You said (honestly this time, i see it) you know nothing about game development but later in the same post you see yourself competent enough to say who is putting effort and who is not ??
Congratulations !
For me to speak this way : I may not develop games but I am a software developer myself for 11 years and lead juniors developers for 9 years...
Software development is a hard challenge !
Here you have to :
- Find a story to tell. write storyline and storytelling (it is not the same !!)
- Given the fact you already have models (from DAZ for example and it is not that easy too), you have to make renderings according to a storyboard matching your storytelling to build the scenes of the game. That needsd a large RAM size and puts a great toll on your graphic card (Recently, another dev I often speak with told me his graphic card died because of that)... btw forget CGs under $500 to perform that task... and renderings use a lot of time to compute, it is far worse if you want to make animations
- Last but not least : coding in Python (if using Renpy) the parameters of the universe : characters stats, texts matching stats and so on...
- when finish all that, is it the end ? NO!! time to test to chase bugs !
Yes he promised to have a 2-3 months pace, Yes he is late but If you know nothing about the challenge it is to make a game, better to say nothing...
Re read Ibizadalton's posts just above, she shows more wisdom you never showed here...
The dev posts every week-end and explain his situation and progression.
In the long post the dev wrote 2 weeks ago I quoted the part about how he sees his game, here you have the part about delay :
That is how you can get trust from your patrons : being honest about the difficulties you face and mistakes you make...MartialART said:
Food for thought...
I just ask you to believe me when I say I do not give my trust that easily...
Bye.
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Why do you care? You've made it clear you don't like the game.
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No game is okay, better than most, its a quantity issue. Given the space between updates I don't think they are earning their fee, just a personal opinion based on support that I actually gave with my wallet, three to four months of posting bland images of MC walking around a coffee shop isn't worth it. Like most I'm here because I'm not paying now.