Miðgarðsormr

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You are correct for the most part.

Generally speaking, I could probably help some in the dialogue, helping things flow a bit better between the characters, or making things feel more 'alive' so to speak; in doing so correcting or addressing some of the way the writing seems a touch stilted or forced in places. Overall though, there isn't much I could do, without completely rewriting the entire story. Problem is, doing that would be both costly for a developer; and also push the development cycle back considerably. Like you said basically said, it really comes down to a question of cost. Is it worth it to shell out the cash for a rewrite that gives more substance to the story, while pushing the development cycle further back; or can they better deal with things as they are now?
I also think its best for them to focus on what they have now an build from that. Rewriting if only a small part would cost to much time and money for something most ppl would not even care about in these kind of games.
 
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The rumor has it devs sometimes answer your messages here, let`s try them) So, i want to give my own two cents in the recent discussions - the story and dialogues are the weak spot, i would even say it`s even an eyesore for now, especially when you speak russian and try native language to experience the game. Even the idea of MC getting the director position and his shady story with family memebrs combined with previous scandals is already quite nice, we could have a lot of plot twists and other stuff, BUT it destroys the experience, we need very strong and independent characters, with their own story, bright personalities, some of them could be trenched in their own thoughts making progress of corruption more interesting and challenging, the others could try to manipulate MC to get what they want....ah, dreams-dreams. Anyway, the plot is a dealbreaker for me at this point, not to mention lack of H content that could be a counterweight to the story, but no - we have only nice artwork, UI and months of waiting for a miracle.

I still hope (deep inside, previous experience of support completely failed) this game will prove all us wrong. But, for me would be ideal to take the carcass of your game together with artists and give to other dev, who can into a story and knows how often he need to provide people with updates and how big should they be to get the proper hype and maintain the good name of the game.
 
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Miðgarðsormr

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Only problem here is that this game is not a VN, this is a full fledge porn game, with little porn content AND a LOT of minigames. The art is really, like really great, all people get sell by the art, but once u try the game is not what u expect it to be.

The game mechanics, the hard and LONG the game is without any reward (sex scene), the need for a walktrough (yes, step by step for people who come here beliving this was a VN, not the 'guide' this game have) make this game one that i don´t want to replay never again.

I feel kind of robbed of my time, so much potential, pretty much the game could have end up better with more use of SEX and less minigames. For fuck sake this game have like 3 years in development (or at least it start around that time, how many time it have being in onhold, idk) and we still don't have a sex scene with the 'main girls'.

Just hope for the author to actually reward the players or advance the story, because all the the story up to this point feel like a very big filler, not even Naruto...
The thing about the guide is that he is basically useless. It tells you what you HAVE to do but it won't tell you HOW TO DO ANYTHING! Which negates the purpose of a guide almost completely.

A way better approach would be a guide who tells you what to do when. And for all the minigames an option to get the right answer or cheat it whenever you want to. Which not only would make the progress by every playtrough (saves aren't fixable for new versions) way faster and rewarding.

Since i dont know if that is even possible it remains to be seen if the next update has a competent guide and the right answers for anything. While you mentioned that the game is still not rewarding after 3 years i share my points which drove me almost fucking made playing through this update.

1. When which girl has to wear what swimsuit and how to influence it. Way to complicated, way to annoying, way to time consuming.

2. guessing the right stuff in Susans "Bakers Delight" which is also based on way to many variables for me or anyone to actually care. We want to see tits not guess ingredients of the fucking cake which most of the time have nothing to do with how the cake even looks.

3. Lunas Dream Answers. God i hated this shit. Which number is for xyz IMVOIS (insert fucked up topic here) and the amount of save before and load again once you get it wrong is beyond countable.

4. Guess which underwear daphne is wearing. When ur X Ray vision is not usable on a daily basis and the picture in your room repeats "What daphne does when wearing yellow underwear" 3 times in a row, you know you are in for alot of furstrating grinding again.

To just name a fewbut the list goes on. The matter of fact is i dont know anyone who wants to sit in a Sex game and has to actually write down clues to actually get anywhere. Thats maybe needed in some puzzle or other games like L.A. Noire but not in a sex game. Its annoying, time consuming and borderline boring as hell.

You have to repeat so many events you cant skip or you miss the clues entirely and are stuck to actually watch them all over again and write down alot of stuff to get progress done.


To get rid of all complaints who are mentioned around this the devs would have to come up with either a better guide (which is almost impossible cause they would need to add alot of text and make ppl even more confused and mad) or a more simpler solution give us the option to cheat in basically every of those events to our liking.

I think especially the cheating or a star on the right answer (as it happens now when u guess wrong to many times) being present from the start should help both the devs and the players to actually get rid of this problem all together.
 

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The thing about the guide is that he is basically useless. It tells you what you HAVE to do but it won't tell you HOW TO DO ANYTHING! Which negates the purpose of a guide almost completely.

A way better approach would be a guide who tells you what to do when. And for all the minigames an option to get the right answer or cheat it whenever you want to. Which not only would make the progress by every playtrough (saves aren't fixable for new versions) way faster and rewarding.

Since i dont know if that is even possible it remains to be seen if the next update has a competent guide and the right answers for anything. While you mentioned that the game is still not rewarding after 3 years i share my points which drove me almost fucking made playing through this update.

1. When which girl has to wear what swimsuit and how to influence it. Way to complicated, way to annoying, way to time consuming.

2. guessing the right stuff in Susans "Bakers Delight" which is also based on way to many variables for me or anyone to actually care. We want to see tits not guess ingredients of the fucking cake which most of the time have nothing to do with how the cake even looks.

3. Lunas Dream Answers. God i hated this shit. Which number is for xyz IMVOIS (insert fucked up topic here) and the amount of save before and load again once you get it wrong is beyond countable.

4. Guess which underwear daphne is wearing. When ur X Ray vision is not usable on a daily basis and the picture in your room repeats "What daphne does when wearing yellow underwear" 3 times in a row, you know you are in for alot of furstrating grinding again.

To just name a fewbut the list goes on. The matter of fact is i dont know anyone who wants to sit in a Sex game and has to actually write down clues to actually get anywhere. Thats maybe needed in some puzzle or other games like L.A. Noire but not in a sex game. Its annoying, time consuming and borderline boring as hell.

You have to repeat so many events you cant skip or you miss the clues entirely and are stuck to actually watch them all over again and write down alot of stuff to get progress done.


To get rid of all complaints who are mentioned around this the devs would have to come up with either a better guide (which is almost impossible cause they would need to add alot of text and make ppl even more confused and mad) or a more simpler solution give us the option to cheat in basically every of those events to our liking.

I think especially the cheating or a star on the right answer (as it happens now when u guess wrong to many times) being present from the start should help both the devs and the players to actually get rid of this problem all together.
Enable quick save in main menu before you start - Save / load before each answer and frustration is equal 0
 

Miðgarðsormr

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Enable quick save in main menu before you start - Save / load before each answer and frustration is equal 0
I am aware of that but thanks for letting everyone else know. I should have mentioned my self how to shift+s and shift+L can save you alot of frustrations but somehow i didnt mention it once.
 

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The thing about the guide is that he is basically useless. It tells you what you HAVE to do but it won't tell you HOW TO DO ANYTHING! Which negates the purpose of a guide almost completely.

A way better approach would be a guide who tells you what to do when. And for all the minigames an option to get the right answer or cheat it whenever you want to. Which not only would make the progress by every playtrough (saves aren't fixable for new versions) way faster and rewarding.

Since i dont know if that is even possible it remains to be seen if the next update has a competent guide and the right answers for anything. While you mentioned that the game is still not rewarding after 3 years i share my points which drove me almost fucking made playing through this update.

1. When which girl has to wear what swimsuit and how to influence it. Way to complicated, way to annoying, way to time consuming.

2. guessing the right stuff in Susans "Bakers Delight" which is also based on way to many variables for me or anyone to actually care. We want to see tits not guess ingredients of the fucking cake which most of the time have nothing to do with how the cake even looks.

3. Lunas Dream Answers. God i hated this shit. Which number is for xyz IMVOIS (insert fucked up topic here) and the amount of save before and load again once you get it wrong is beyond countable.

4. Guess which underwear daphne is wearing. When ur X Ray vision is not usable on a daily basis and the picture in your room repeats "What daphne does when wearing yellow underwear" 3 times in a row, you know you are in for alot of furstrating grinding again.

To just name a fewbut the list goes on. The matter of fact is i dont know anyone who wants to sit in a Sex game and has to actually write down clues to actually get anywhere. Thats maybe needed in some puzzle or other games like L.A. Noire but not in a sex game. Its annoying, time consuming and borderline boring as hell.

You have to repeat so many events you cant skip or you miss the clues entirely and are stuck to actually watch them all over again and write down alot of stuff to get progress done.


To get rid of all complaints who are mentioned around this the devs would have to come up with either a better guide (which is almost impossible cause they would need to add alot of text and make ppl even more confused and mad) or a more simpler solution give us the option to cheat in basically every of those events to our liking.

I think especially the cheating or a star on the right answer (as it happens now when u guess wrong to many times) being present from the start should help both the devs and the players to actually get rid of this problem all together.
I agree, I played this game a few months back and I recently change my computer and I really don't have the courage to redo all the game from the beginning to get to the fun part. If a play a porn game it's for the porn, I don't want to spend hours getting to it
 

Miðgarðsormr

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I agree, I played this game a few months back and I recently change my computer and I really don't have the courage to redo all the game from the beginning to get to the fun part. If a play a porn game it's for the porn, I don't want to spend hours getting to it
You dont have to play for hours but there is literally nothing to see in terms of porn. You could already see all the girls nipples or bare tits in the last update with the X-RAY Vision already and this update adds in terms of that nothing new. A bit of story and expelling one of the students if you follow the corruption path but thats about it.
 

happy395

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Hello there !!
Someone can help me ?
How to accomplish these tasks??
- Find helena's diadem
- Trick a girl into breaking IMVOIS
- Become a tutor
PLZ
 

Miðgarðsormr

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Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I repeatedly get these options

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and after I concede I don't see cheat button, the scene just goes to the same dialog before she leaves.
The cheat button appears literally at the puzzle not before it. And you have to fail it once or twice to get it.
 
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The thing about the guide is that he is basically useless. It tells you what you HAVE to do but it won't tell you HOW TO DO ANYTHING! Which negates the purpose of a guide almost completely.

A way better approach would be a guide who tells you what to do when. And for all the minigames an option to get the right answer or cheat it whenever you want to. Which not only would make the progress by every playtrough (saves aren't fixable for new versions) way faster and rewarding.

Since i dont know if that is even possible it remains to be seen if the next update has a competent guide and the right answers for anything. While you mentioned that the game is still not rewarding after 3 years i share my points which drove me almost fucking made playing through this update.

1. When which girl has to wear what swimsuit and how to influence it. Way to complicated, way to annoying, way to time consuming.

2. guessing the right stuff in Susans "Bakers Delight" which is also based on way to many variables for me or anyone to actually care. We want to see tits not guess ingredients of the fucking cake which most of the time have nothing to do with how the cake even looks.

3. Lunas Dream Answers. God i hated this shit. Which number is for xyz IMVOIS (insert fucked up topic here) and the amount of save before and load again once you get it wrong is beyond countable.

4. Guess which underwear daphne is wearing. When ur X Ray vision is not usable on a daily basis and the picture in your room repeats "What daphne does when wearing yellow underwear" 3 times in a row, you know you are in for alot of furstrating grinding again.

To just name a fewbut the list goes on. The matter of fact is i dont know anyone who wants to sit in a Sex game and has to actually write down clues to actually get anywhere. Thats maybe needed in some puzzle or other games like L.A. Noire but not in a sex game. Its annoying, time consuming and borderline boring as hell.

You have to repeat so many events you cant skip or you miss the clues entirely and are stuck to actually watch them all over again and write down alot of stuff to get progress done.


To get rid of all complaints who are mentioned around this the devs would have to come up with either a better guide (which is almost impossible cause they would need to add alot of text and make ppl even more confused and mad) or a more simpler solution give us the option to cheat in basically every of those events to our liking.

I think especially the cheating or a star on the right answer (as it happens now when u guess wrong to many times) being present from the start should help both the devs and the players to actually get rid of this problem all together.
Have you read our walkthrough in Discord?



Here ya go, lot's of step by step exactly how to do things, what answers are in each minigame etc.
(It could be better of course, but between it and the objective tracker the game should be quite easy)

PS Forgive me if I am wrong on that part, I am the shittiest person to have perspective on difficulty in the game since I design all these grindy puzzles people hate.
 
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