beldr

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I do not care much about not much sex scenes since, unlike most, I am not looking for a quick fap so I don't mind the slow progress towards the scenes, specially if they are good.
I also enjoy a good story writing on a game, otherwise I am just looking at a CG.
With all that being said I do agree that, while minigames are not bad per se, they do require you to play them way too many times for the rewards.
Regarding the whole story rewrite I do not mind it if it ends being a better story overall. The biggest problem they had with the story is that, for what I feel, is that they did not a rough idea of ALL the story they wanted to do before starting to make the game.
What I believe is the general problem is with this (and most) porn games is that a lot of players go in not thinking of it as a game, just an interactive CG. That is made obvious in this forums when you can't go 5-10posts without someone asking for a full save, a cheat or a full gallery unlock (and I am pretty sure at this point they would even ask for someone else to jerk them off while they play a game.)
 

perception

Newbie
Aug 9, 2016
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I do not care much about not much sex scenes since, unlike most, I am not looking for a quick fap so I don't mind the slow progress towards the scenes, specially if they are good.
I also enjoy a good story writing on a game, otherwise I am just looking at a CG.
With all that being said I do agree that, while minigames are not bad per se, they do require you to play them way too many times for the rewards.
Regarding the whole story rewrite I do not mind it if it ends being a better story overall. The biggest problem they had with the story is that, for what I feel, is that they did not a rough idea of ALL the story they wanted to do before starting to make the game.
What I believe is the general problem is with this (and most) porn games is that a lot of players go in not thinking of it as a game, just an interactive CG. That is made obvious in this forums when you can't go 5-10posts without someone asking for a full save, a cheat or a full gallery unlock (and I am pretty sure at this point they would even ask for someone else to jerk them off while they play a game.)
Exactly.
And this complaining has become meme status all over the forums (not only on this game)
With no logic or reason, freeloaders complain constantly expecting what? That the devs cater to to just them? That the game is transformed to just a sequence of images?

What ends happening is:

- The devs cannot filter good feedback with all the noise and get frustrated and stop participating here dealing exclusively with Patrons (completely understandable).

- Nothing wrong in improving the story with the "old" and "new" if they want to, but right now it's confusing to what should people be playing and this might have been precipitated by the same complainers.

- Try to convince some that it's worthy to try the game by kinda spoiling most of the sexy events on animated banners, (while I can understand promotion, and of course they can do what they think it's better), it kinda goes against the logic of "slow burner" and "surprise" contents that are core features of the game.
I think this makes the complainers who are playing for quick faps even more noisy when they try it and have to actually play a game that they've already seen what it interested them on the banner.
 

zomkung

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Sep 28, 2017
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- Try to convince some that it's worthy to try the game by kinda spoiling most of the sexy events on animated banners, (while I can understand promotion, and of course they can do what they think it's better), it kinda goes against the logic of "slow burner" and "surprise" contents that are core features of the game.
I think this makes the complainers who are playing for quick faps even more noisy when they try it and have to actually play a game that they've already seen what it interested them on the banner.
Understandable

But from the test, doing this way can generate more pledges.

I'm doing marketing for many games. Unluckily, people still prefer this way.
 

IceStation58

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Oct 27, 2020
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Does anyone know how to navigate to the library? Im on the Confront Minerva quest, and have no idea how to get there, or to any of the other locations that branch off the dorms
 

perception

Newbie
Aug 9, 2016
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Understandable

But from the test, doing this way can generate more pledges.

I'm doing marketing for many games. Unluckily, people still prefer this way.
Yup, that's the point of the banner. I don't think is necessarily a preference but a consequence, it's totally doing its purpose.
(I would prefer to maintain the surprise, but I did know about this game before so I'm not the even the target and I scroll down fast to avoid it).

I was just pointing out the consequence from the extra attention the banner brings, also attracts some uncalled complaints
from people that don't understand the point of the game (or a game even). They've just seen the banner or spoiled themselves seeing what the artist and team posts and expected something different due to their own fault. This is wide around f95 and different game threads.

Honestly unreasonable demands and comments without substance should be moderated out / collapsed, to promote real feedback.
No one expects that people agree with everything, but constant unproductive noise creates an insufferable environment making the devs not wanting to participate here to focus exclusively on Patrons.
 
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JoeBanks

Innocent Witches/Not Another Adventurer!
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May 5, 2018
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I'm still waiting for the new luna and daphne mini-games that barely didn't make it in a patch maybe a year ago.
I can take full responsibility for this as I did the initial development and implementation of these, after that there was some hand off on tasks that I didn't explain... Suffice to say, people can't read my mind and it may have been a local branch on my pc that no one had access to in GIT. Unfortunately, I am also human, have much bigger demands from my full time job and the game development for me became a secondary task which if you look is why I am no longer the game designer.

Things change, the team shifts and adjusts. The important part is the work continues.
 

schokokopp

Newbie
Jul 13, 2018
18
6
Anybody here got to the new "full screen scene with one of the main girls", mentioned in the latest patchlog yet? What is it?
 

schokokopp

Newbie
Jul 13, 2018
18
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It's a scene with Susan; playthrough the new plot to get the scene bro
Thnks for the reply. Are we talking actual sex scene or rather a handjob or some sort?
Haven't played for a while and was kind of waiting for the game to get some more content.
Don't count me in with the haters tho lol.
Feel free to dm if you don't wanna spoil it for the others. I don't mind that honestly.
 

DanielJ04

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Jan 11, 2021
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Thnks for the reply. Are we talking actual sex scene or rather a handjob or some sort?
Haven't played for a while and was kind of waiting for the game to get some more content.
Don't count me in with the haters tho lol.
Feel free to dm if you don't wanna spoil it for the others. I don't mind that honestly.
just another foreplay (and only one); actually im very disappointed with the new scene (although im a game supporter) so perhaps you wanna wait for another year :(
 

Clobbertime

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Jan 10, 2021
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I can take full responsibility for this as I did the initial development and implementation of these, after that there was some hand off on tasks that I didn't explain... Suffice to say, people can't read my mind and it may have been a local branch on my pc that no one had access to in GIT. Unfortunately, I am also human, have much bigger demands from my full time job and the game development for me became a secondary task which if you look is why I am no longer the game designer.

Things change, the team shifts and adjusts. The important part is the work continues.
While the game does need more content for all the girls, except the granny, the last thing it needs is more minigames. If anything it needs minigames removed, not added. Those are better suited for RPGM games.
 

perception

Newbie
Aug 9, 2016
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While the game does need more content for all the girls, except the granny, the last thing it needs is more minigames. If anything it needs minigames removed, not added. Those are better suited for RPGM games.
I won't defend the minigames. While I don't love them, I mostly don't mind them and find them amusing in moderation. In some old school point and clicks they were prevalent. I.e. Monkey Island 3.

However I would like to understand why you think they are better suited for RPGM games?

What in a RPGMaker games screams point-and-click puzzle minigames? It's a tileset based engine, if anything the minigames would have to be script extended (albeit more easily in new RPGM versions) as they have nothing to do with tile based movement or RPGs.
 

Clobbertime

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I won't defend the minigames. While I don't love them, I mostly don't mind them and find them amusing in moderation. In some old school point and clicks they were prevalent. I.e. Monkey Island 3.

However I would like to understand why you think they are better suited for RPGM games?

What in a RPGMaker games screams point-and-click puzzle minigames? It's a tileset based engine, if anything the minigames would have to be script extended (albeit more easily in new RPGM versions) as they have nothing to do with tile based movement or RPGs.
I'm not talking about point and click minigames for RPGM, rather the ones like jumping and pushing puzzles, and triggering switches that are made in the engine itself. It's designed for certain types of puzzles like that. Some minigames can be fun even in renpy and unity games, but the ones in IW tend to just be annoying with little in way of payoff for completing them.
 
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