diras2010

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At this point in time, I'm just looking for momething else to cater my tastes, while leaving this game in the backburner, and wait for a couple of releases, in order to see if there's a substantial change, worth of my time, or just drop it altogether

I was even working on the TL of the game, and due a bunch of bugs, repeatedly downtimes
 

HeartBroker

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At this point in time, I'm just looking for momething else to cater my tastes, while leaving this game in the backburner, and wait for a couple of releases, in order to see if there's a substantial change, worth of my time, or just drop it altogether

I was even working on the TL of the game, and due a bunch of bugs, repeatedly downtimes
I did that...two years ago.

I came back and asked the Discord if there was anything new and they were incredulous that someone would even ask that question. I was asking because I went through the entire old and new plot, and there were three new things I noticed: A rework of one of the Minerva scenes (gross), a rework of the mermaid scene (which was underwhelming), and they made a bunch of "Live2D" scenes from scenes that were originally stills (which added nothing to the game, really).

And if anyone who hasn't played the game is wondering what Live2D is, and is wondering why that's not considered actual content--it's basically the 2D stills from before, but made to wobble so it looks like the characters are moving. Apparently it's super hard for them to do, because they've been working on adding them for like half a fucking decade. Embarrassing.
 
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Khan

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Yeah, it's clear they are using her as the dangling carrot, which worked for a long time with me until they started drawing her to be a typical porn actress. Her tits are like twice is big as they were in the beginning. All of the main girls' chests have ballooned, which is so goddamn annoying.

They claim there are at least 2 new events per monthly update, but this is what they consider worth $20 a month:

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We have not changed the breast size of the female characters of the game since its very beginning (there were minor adjustments to the breasts of Daphne and Minerva in version 0.0.4)

A subscription to the beta version of the game costs $ 5, and the game itself is free, you just have to wait for the release of new versions.

If you supported us on patreon and are dissatisfied with the result, you are ready to return the money
 

Khan

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I JUST made nearly the same comment before reading yours. It's ridiculous, right? They all looked different, with different personalities, looks, and bodies--and now they're all giant-titted bimbos with LESS h-scenes in the new plot.
All scenes and almost all events will be transferred from the old plot to the new one (+ more adaptations and new content)
I answered about the size of the breasts with the comment above, don't believe me, ask Siserg
 

Khan

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At this point in time, I'm just looking for momething else to cater my tastes, while leaving this game in the backburner, and wait for a couple of releases, in order to see if there's a substantial change, worth of my time, or just drop it altogether

I was even working on the TL of the game, and due a bunch of bugs, repeatedly downtimes
Can you write it here or in our discord? We try to fix them ASAP
 

Khan

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I did that...two years ago.

I came back and asked the Discord if there was anything new and they were incredulous that someone would even ask that question. I was asking because I went through the entire old and new plot, and there were three new things I noticed: A rework of one of the Minerva scenes (gross), a rework of the mermaid scene (which was underwhelming), and they made a bunch of "Live2D" scenes from scenes that were originally stills (which added nothing to the game, really).

And if anyone who hasn't played the game is wondering what Live2D is, and is wondering why that's not considered actual content--it's basically the 2D stills from before, but made to wobble so it looks like the characters are moving. Apparently it's super hard for them to do, because they've been working on adding them for like half a fucking decade. Embarrassing.
2 years ago we started making a new story due to the abrupt departure of the old screenwriter
If, according to you, Live2D scenes are just frames, we are ready to hire you to us so that you cut "just frames" for scenes in the game

Also, some frames examples:


 

drea2

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A subscription to the beta version of the game costs $ 5, and the game itself is free, you just have to wait for the release of new versions.
The game isn't free, the version from more than one year ago is. At this point you only give it because otherwise Patreon would ban you because it's copyrighted content so you can say there is a free version to them.
 

Arkhanan2022

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strill people supportging this game?, 2 years and you can't doing anything with main heroines ... only excuses for al petreons still paying this shit
 

diras2010

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Can you write it here or in our discord? We try to fix them ASAP
I work mostly on Zen mode, which is faster, I use from time to time to switch to another tab where I have an online translator like DeepL or Google translate, when I'm not 100% sure that my TL is correctly or the idea is harder to convey and have to check if my translation is on point with the idea or so.

I have noticed that, if I try to copy a phrase or paragraph and did not finished correctly the translation, the system will get a bug whereas if I try to copy another phrase or paragraph, using the dedicated button, the system would use the last copied item, before the bug happening, instead of the actual one that I'm trying to use.

Furthermore, the bug catches the Crtl+C command and overrides it, so I have to mark the text I want to check with the translator, and press multiple times (at least 5 or 6 times) the Crtl+C command, in order for the system to recognize that I want that piece of text copied, if I do Crtl+C once, it will still use the last text copied before the bug.

The bug is agnostic to the web browser used, have tested in Brave, Chrome, Firefox and Edge, and it can be triggered in every single one
 

Khan

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I work mostly on Zen mode, which is faster, I use from time to time to switch to another tab where I have an online translator like DeepL or Google translate, when I'm not 100% sure that my TL is correctly or the idea is harder to convey and have to check if my translation is on point with the idea or so.

I have noticed that, if I try to copy a phrase or paragraph and did not finished correctly the translation, the system will get a bug whereas if I try to copy another phrase or paragraph, using the dedicated button, the system would use the last copied item, before the bug happening, instead of the actual one that I'm trying to use.

Furthermore, the bug catches the Crtl+C command and overrides it, so I have to mark the text I want to check with the translator, and press multiple times (at least 5 or 6 times) the Crtl+C command, in order for the system to recognize that I want that piece of text copied, if I do Crtl+C once, it will still use the last text copied before the bug.

The bug is agnostic to the web browser used, have tested in Brave, Chrome, Firefox and Edge, and it can be triggered in every single one
Don't understand you, can you explain more in our Discord?
 

Perniciousducks

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I'm actually looking forward to playing this game again when the old story is completely phased out in favor of the new. I'll wait until then and check the thread from time to time. I don't really care that it takes too long, I have a life and can find other things to do in the meantime.
 

SymbolicFrank

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Witch Trainer was mostly about parading the girls full-size around with increasingly hotter clothes. With an occasional hot scene thrown in. Clothes are also a lot easier to draw than animations and allow reuse of those animations. That there is none of that makes this game (even with the great art) simply boring. And it's just as long-winded. Even Witch Trainer is far too boring without the walkthrough and cheat mod.

Go back to your roots. Keep it simple. Show the nice drawings and animations with a lot of different clothes and toys. Show them in stages as well. And get rid of all the story bits that don't have hot girls in them. Nobody cares about those. Make sure there's always something interesting to see on the screen, or people will complain.
 
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Khan

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Witch Trainer was mostly about parading the girls full-size around with increasingly hotter clothes. With an occasional hot scene thrown in. Clothes are also a lot easier to draw than animations and allow reuse of those animations. That there is none of that makes this game (even with the great art) simply boring. And it's just as long-winded. Even Witch Trainer is far too boring without the walkthrough and cheat mod.

Go back to your roots. Keep it simple. Show the nice drawings and animations with a lot of different clothes and toys. Show them in stages as well. And get rid of all the story bits that don't have hot girls in them. Nobody cares about those. Make sure there's always something interesting to see on the screen, or people will complain.
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SymbolicFrank

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Well, there's your problem. If it takes you guys months to do a single animation and the demand is for a full-fledged, animated story for every character, with lots of different choices and consequences, you need about a hundred employees and a few years time. And the budget to pay for all that.

So, either give up or come up with a manageable scope.

You might have a lot of free money now, but that will run out. And it seems you guys do want to make it into a success. So make something that you can actually deliver. And start with reusing all the assets you already have.
 

SymbolicFrank

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If you ask someone: "do you want a billion dollars and the most gorgeous woman alive, or are you satisfied with just a million and a very nice woman", what do you think they will answer?

The first question in the poll should have been:

"I want characters to have personality, therefore they should agree to wear something first. And it should be within the bounds of reason. Therefore, we made a new tier on Patreon for $1000. As soon as at least a 1000 people register for that, we go for it. It will take a long time between updates."

And the third one:

"I want complete freedom. If I want Daphne to go around the school in her underwear, so be it, even if it doesn't fit the current events. This option doesn't require a new Patreon tier and updates are frequent."

And you might want to add an independent choice:

"I'm fine with less nice backgrounds and story bits that don't contain hot girls, as long as that gives twice as much updates with new sexy content."

None of the above excludes that all the girls have their own story and personality. You can do that with text.
 

SuddenReal

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The first question in the poll should have been:

"I want characters to have personality, therefore they should agree to wear something first. And it should be within the bounds of reason. Therefore, we made a new tier on Patreon for $1000. As soon as at least a 1000 people register for that, we go for it. It will take a long time between updates."

And the third one:

"I want complete freedom. If I want Daphne to go around the school in her underwear, so be it, even if it doesn't fit the current events. This option doesn't require a new Patreon tier and updates are frequent."
I don't think you understand what the poll is about. It's about how many dress up options the models have. The first option is that there's a limited amount of options, fitting the character (meaning less options, thus less work) while the second is disregarding the personality and having them wear whatever (and thus having more options and more work).
 
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