Others Insect Prison Remake [v1.30] [Eroism]

[Pandect]

I really hope AI loses because I cannot in good faith support a hentai/porn game that uses AI slop for its scenes.

Are you supporting this effort currently? I mean in a monetary fashion that matters, not just well wishes.

 

[Myrneko]

Unfortunately we are on a loosing end here. The original Artist refused his help, there are limited Assets of his Art that we CAN use. Adding 2-3 more scenes and things start to look same-y and copy pasted. There is other Atella Art out there, but we arnt allowed to use it.

This leaves creating new scenes ourself, which is a challenge. You have to jump though several hoops:

First, you want to keep the Art style of Atella in some way, so it doesnt end up like a mixture of Styles like in Ravager. It is hard to mimic a certain Art Style, that isnt your own.

Second, the way Scenes are made is dated and time consuming. It is like a flipbook with different images played in a pattern. For each tiny movement you will need another image. Newer games uses flash or modern animation programs to morph one picture into another. You can create basic loops with just 2-3 images. Unfortunately this doesnt work here.

So unfortunately AI is almost necessary, I think. The difference is how you use it.
I know there are countless"games" that uses AI as its main method. AI wirtten story, AI generated Art that all looks basic and same-y. Thats because these Devs lack passion and dont put much effort into their creations. They put together common assets to make a game to gain some money.

However Eroism has proven that he/she/it (how should we address you btw?) has the passion to use it as a mere tool, not a main production method. I have faith that Eroism will use AI sparingly to honor Atella and his legacy.

Everybody who voted "drawn by artists" should know that this will slow down the production significantly, with a high risk of the game staying unfinished or getting abandoned. Artists that have the talent and are willing to jump through all these hoops are rare and probably dont want to be credited for a game about Insects fucking young girls.

Oh, I'm curious, but I follow this thread since a long time but I couldn't keep up with it daily, so I don't know what happened with Atella, how is the situation with the original artist?

 

[Ronnie21093]

Everybody who voted "drawn by artists" should know that this will slow down the production significantly, with a high risk of the game staying unfinished or getting abandoned. Artists that have the talent and are willing to jump through all these hoops are rare and probably dont want to be credited for a game about Insects fucking young girls.

I'm personally fine with this as long as it means there's no scenes made with AI.
Also, I strongly feel like using AI would be a dishonor to Atella since it means feeding his art to a machine for AI generations to copy his style. Hell, has anyone even asked if Atella is okay with his art being used for AI generations? Most Japanese artists tend not to be okay with it.

 

[Pandect]

I'm personally fine with this as long as it means there's no scenes made with AI.
Also, I strongly feel like using AI would be a dishonor to Atella since it means feeding his art to a machine for AI generations to copy his style. Hell, has anyone even asked if Atella is okay with his art being used for AI generations? Most Japanese artists tend not to be okay with it.

You sure are passionate about this. Does this mean you're willing to shell out the money for the art for the game, or are you just talking a big game about how much you really hate AI and will complain harder if it's used, because as someone who actually paid and supported this effort with real money, I'm fine with AI.

 

[Tiydude]

I don't think raw AI art is good, but considering this is free and under quite a few constraints for content, I'm okay with placeholder AI art that is intended to be replaced.

 

[Ronnie21093]

You sure are passionate about this. Does this mean you're willing to shell out the money for the art for the game, or are you just talking a big game about how much you really hate AI and will complain harder if it's used, because as someone who actually paid and supported this effort with real money, I'm fine with AI.

If I knew of a way to support the game (Since Itchio nuked the ability to spend money on a bunch of NSFW games) then I wouldn't mind spending some money on the game if it means no AI slop.
If AI does start getting used for scenes though, I'll just stop commenting in the thread and stop following the game, since it'd be silly for me to stick around if that happens.

 

[PixelLewd]

Thing is, I doubt there's going to be any artist that can replicate Altera's style close enough WHILE also being a reasonable price for the amount of content this game will likely require.

This is one of those few cases where I kinda have to condone AI use, at least as long as its edited/fixed up and isn't just slapping in whatever the AI spits out as is.

Obviously not using it would be better, but I'm unsure how many other realistic options there are

 

[eroism]

I'm personally fine with this as long as it means there's no scenes made with AI.
Also, I strongly feel like using AI would be a dishonor to Atella since it means feeding his art to a machine for AI generations to copy his style. Hell, has anyone even asked if Atella is okay with his art being used for AI generations? Most Japanese artists tend not to be okay with it.

Those are legitimate concerns . I don't think it would be right to use his latest art from the paid works on the game I agree with you there. The original game art style is substantially different from his current works however.

At this point I'm more interested in knowing what would be the general consensus regarding the usage of AI and not yet locking into relying in it for the scenes, whence the poll, instead of just pulling a "this is how it is going to be", and all opinions are valid. Albeit I think AI assistance will be needed at some point to proceed or risk stalling the project, for now it remains to be seen.

Thank you for the input!