longjohngold

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I can't remember if I left a comment last time I played this. I think it's a real solid. The renders might not be the best but their perfectly serviceable. It's well written I haven't felt the need to start skipping at any point, which is a very good sign. The main girl is hot and I'm looking forward to her breaking in all those girls (and the trap).
 

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Good game. One main problem I have, though. Why does Jade become such a fucking pussy when interacting with her family? Around everyone else, she's super dominant, but around her family, she is unable to speak back to them when they're being complete assholes to her. She lets her mother, who married a rich guy, say that she worked hard, and Jade doesn't understand hard work. After her mother kicked her out and then remarried a rich guy while Jade had to work, she should have slapped her mother. Instead, she barely says anything. Then, when her cousin finds out she's a futa and is angry, Jade accepts that as justified anger towards her. Jade was a child whose mother was forcing her to lie to everyone. Her mother was practically abusing her. Her cousin is being a bitch, and Jade can call her out on that. Instead, it seems that Jade agrees with her that she's the bad guy somehow. After that reveal to her cousin, Jade indicates that she wants to stop lying to her sister. Jade goes to her sister's apartment and intends to try to reconnect. So why the fuck does Jade not tell her sister? Why does she suddenly decide that she'd rather be yelled at and have her sister think she's horrible than do what she had already planned to do before her sister asked the question Jade knew her sister would ask? It just seems so stupid. I understand that she feels more vulnerable around family, but her personality changes to the complete opposite. Jade seems to think she's the bad guy, despite most of the problems of her and her sister coming from her mother being a bad person. She seems to understand her mother is a shitty person and a really shitty mother, so why does she let everyone else blame her constantly?
 
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Ciaran8023

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Good game. One main problem I have, though. Why does Jade become such a fucking pussy when interacting with her family? Around everyone else, she's super dominant, but around her family, she is unable to speak back to them when they're being complete assholes to her. She lets her mother, who married a rich guy, say that she worked hard, and Jade doesn't understand hard work. After her mother kicked her out and then remarried a rich guy while Jade had to work, she should have slapped her mother. Instead, she barely says anything. Then, when her cousin finds out she's a futa and is angry, Jade accepts that as justified anger towards her. Jade was a child whose mother was forcing her to lie to everyone. Her mother was practically abusing her. Her cousin is being a bitch, and Jade can call her out on that. Instead, it seems that Jade agrees with her that she's the bad guy somehow. After that reveal to her cousin, Jade indicates that she wants to stop lying to her sister. Jade goes to her sister's apartment and intends to try to reconnect. So why the fuck does Jade not tell her sister? Why does she suddenly decide that she'd rather be yelled at and have her sister think she's horrible than do what she had already planned to do before her sister asked the question Jade knew her sister would ask? It just seems so stupid. I understand that she feels more vulnerable around family, but her personality changes to the complete opposite. Jade seems to think she's the bad guy, despite most of the problems of her and her sister coming from her mother being a bad person. She seems to understand her mother is a shitty person and a really shitty mother, so why does she let everyone else blame her constantly?
tl;dr, probably "don't rock the boat". Jade recently came back and probably realizes that most of her family is like talking to a brick wall, and thus not necessary to start shit over. If you've grown up around people who incessantly tends to blame everyone but themselves, you intrinsically realize that it's just useless to try to convince them otherwise.

Atleast that's how I look at it. Maybe Jade is gearing up to go ham on her mom (I know I would) but want to pick the right time and place perhaps, or just want to avoid her as much as humanly possible.
 

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Good game. One main problem I have, though. Why does Jade become such a fucking pussy when interacting with her family?
She's not.
Around everyone else, she's super dominant, but around her family, she is unable to speak back to them when they're being complete assholes to her. She lets her mother, who married a rich guy, say that she worked hard, and Jade doesn't understand hard work. After her mother kicked her out and then remarried a rich guy while Jade had to work, she should have slapped her mother.
She just treats her family better than she does everyone else. And if she slapped her mother, would she not be at risk of being arrested for assault? She's a horrible mother so I don't think she'd have any issue with putting her own child in jail.
Instead, she barely says anything. Then, when her cousin finds out she's a futa and is angry, Jade accepts that as justified anger towards her.
Because she's right and Jade knows it. Jade isn't the bad guy here but that doesn't mean everyone who she lied to at the behest of her mother can't be hurt/angry by her inability to defend her dignity from her mother.
After that reveal to her cousin, Jade indicates that she wants to stop lying to her sister. Jade goes to her sister's apartment and intends to try to reconnect. So why the fuck does Jade not tell her sister? Why does she suddenly decide that she'd rather be yelled at and have her sister think she's horrible than do what she had already planned to do before her sister asked the question Jade knew her sister would ask? It just seems so stupid.
On this part, I agree that it was weird how she didn't do what she had planned to do.
I understand that she feels more vulnerable around family, but her personality changes to the complete opposite. Jade seems to think she's the bad guy, despite most of the problems of her and her sister coming from her mother being a bad person. She seems to understand her mother is a shitty person and a really shitty mother, so why does she let everyone else blame her constantly?
This kind of upbringing can really mess with anyone's self-esteem so i'm not surprised at how Jade evolved after being kicked out. Her mother was a big factor in her childhood trauma so she became sort of the sole cause of Jade's every predicament. Jade sought to escape from her mother and hurt every other person in her family in the process so it's not a surprise to me at how they're all angry about how she was either hiding things from them or that she didn't run to them instead of running away
 
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damnedfrog

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Good update.
The only thing I found a bit off is that Jade show to 4 peoples that she is a futanari while she still hidden it from her own sister.
With Viv, as her murdered friend was also a futanari, Jade could expect that Viv will keep it a secret.
As with Nathan, who his her best-friend for a long time, Jade can trust him to never betray her.
But she don't know Lena. Sure, Lena was ostracized, a bit like futanari are. But still, Jade know little about her. Perhaps even that story is all mad up?
And I found it even more incredible with Julie. Sharing a secret like that with a teenager you barely know? It's a big risk.
 

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And I found it even more incredible with Julie. Sharing a secret like that with a teenager you barely know? It's a big risk.
I hadn't thought about that, as a young lady normally she wouldn't be able to keep that secret, but then I remembered that Julie is a very obedient kitten who does what Jade tells her, so I don't think there's any danger on her part.
 

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I loved Viv this update, her banter with Jade was really cute, she has a beautiful design, and her dress was gorgeous. She comes across as a smart, kindhearted girl who is cautious about keeping herself safe, and I'm keen to learn more about her.

The fact she kept a gun hidden during the investigation was a great touch, indicates she has a good head on her shoulders and had more than one backup plan in-case Jade couldn't defend her.

People discuss the renders as a negative, but I disagree now; a lot of the shots, and especially the pinup photos, looked really high quality and sexy in this update. I love the design of the women in this game, I genuinely prefer it to how DAZ models often look. This update also continues the excellent effort with transition shots and subtle tweaks in posture and facial expressions that elevate the cinematography. Stuff like Jade's bemusement when texting Ivy, or hiding her smile when she stumbles upon Evelyn are such good touches.

Lena and Isabella are incredibly hot, and I love how both they and Jade constantly eye-fuck each-other. The engine's breast physics and deformation also comes across in the renders when Lena and Isabella subtly shift around or lean into people, it looks great.

The sex-scene pacing was definitely a bit off this update, but the build up with the cast like Maria was top notch, the writing feels natural and engaging as always. Honestly most of my thoughts align with what DankMemesAndCreams said a while back, it all holds true and speaks to the games quality.

I would love to see some more Netori emphasis, as I actually find that quite a fun fantasy.

Amazing work!
 
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I never bother to post around here but this VN is something special and I wanted to say so since the developer is active in the thread. The writing is leaps and bounds better than most of the chaff you have to sort through to find the gems on this site, and the lewd parts are very well done. And of course it helps that it's basically laser-targeted at some of my favorite kinks, hah!
 
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maybe that's because VAM is minority compared to HS or DAZ, people just didn't get used to the art style to begin with
No, I don't think that's the point.

I partially agree with the comments that scenes came out abrupt and probably cliffy. But if the whole prologue with Blair, for example, was to show how the mc behaves not only in bed but also afterwards, and the whole section with Evelyn to introduce and set up one of the main netori lines, then the scene with Lena and Nate, like I said, wanted to try out the threesomes.

Well and yeah, I spent the most development time on this scene from the whole chapter, because I was working at about 4-5 fps I was a bit mentally drained that I wasn't able to do what I originally wanted to do. :HideThePain: :HideThePain: :HideThePain: :HideThePain:

But I'll learn from my mistakes.
 

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Good update.
The only thing I found a bit off is that Jade show to 4 peoples that she is a futanari while she still hidden it from her own sister.
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It can be harder sometime to tell something to someone you know than to a complete stranger. The other thing is that when Jade went to her sister's to tell her, they started arguing almost immediately and the tone of the conversation rose up to levels where the mood for confidences wasn't there anymore. She plans to do it again and Ivy despite her seduction attempts seams to be trying to help with that. So no to me it is not strange that she hasn't told her sister yet, but I expect an other outrage when Mia learns that she is close to the last person to learn the secret.

And like you said the update was great.
 
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Hopefully, Blair shows back up again in some way, like to maybe calling the mc and wanting to move in with the Mc if chosen to be on her path. And we can choose to keep her in the house where she is like a house pet like a slave to the Mc or romance her like a girlfriend or a bit of both. And if on Sam's path, we can take his girlfriend Alex to be with the Mc as a bonus for going down that path.

Also loved the whole thing with Nate and Lena to be with either one of them or both, and it was the Mc who was the only one to get all the sex from one or both and Nate is the submissive one, same with Lena to the Mc. that's the perfect kind of sharing in a way where Nate pretty much gives over his girl to the Mc or himself and the Mc is the one in charge of both of them.
 
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