LSC82

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Lets be real though, it'll cycle between those two, and never touch the snoozefest of a character that is Val.
I'll say this Alexis at least elicits emotions out of me, not positive ones, but she does elicit emotions out of me... Or at least she did before, now she's just a sex delivery machine.

Val on the other hand is just there...
While i don't have the answer to the question wether she's Nyx self insert or not... she does "smell" like an author surrogate.
 
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I'll say this Alexis at least elicits emotions out of me, not positive ones, but she does elicit emotions out of me... Or at least she did before, now she's just a sex delivery machine.

Val on the other hand is just there...
While i don't have the answer to the question wether she's Nyx self insert or not... she does "smell" like an author surrogate.
I don't think it matters one way or another whether Val is a "self-insert" or not. It's all the same in the end. I think that more often than not when a dev labels something as a "self-insert", it's more how they'd like to imagine themselves rather than how they actually are. More like a wish fulfillment or a weird kind of role playing. So really it's a fictional construct one way or another just like any other character in the story.

I think she's a good character. I enjoy the flirting with the MC. My top three favorite girls are Val, Layla, and Mel's booty because they all have such good chemistry with the MC.
 

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I don't think it matters one way or another whether Val is a "self-insert" or not. It's all the same in the end. I think that more often than not when a dev labels something as a "self-insert", it's more how they'd like to imagine themselves rather than how they actually are. More like a wish fulfillment or a weird kind of role playing. So really it's a fictional construct one way or another just like any other character in the story.

I think she's a good character. I enjoy the flirting with the MC. My top three favorite girls are Val, Layla, and Mel's booty because they all have such good chemistry with the MC.
fuck I really hope there will be a real Mel route... one can dream
 
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nyrek

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Exactly, I'm glad people are able to differentiate instead of the halo affect, yup she's hot, would I mind sex scenes with her? Ofc not! Do I want to have hours of dialogue with her? Ofc not!
I don't even want sex scenes with her. it might as well say "nyx" whenever she appears :HideThePain:
also, there's a certain josy in another game, using the same model as val. and I like josy more. :whistle:

fuck I really hope there will be a real Mel route...
there was always a mel route in my head :sneaky:

one can dream
I see what you did there :WeSmart:
 
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I don't think it matters one way or another whether Val is a "self-insert" or not. It's all the same in the end. I think that more often than not when a dev labels something as a "self-insert", it's more how they'd like to imagine themselves rather than how they actually are. More like a wish fulfillment or a weird kind of role playing. So really it's a fictional construct one way or another just like any other character in the story.

I think she's a good character. I enjoy the flirting with the MC. My top three favorite girls are Val, Layla, and Mel's booty because they all have such good chemistry with the MC.
It matters because its almost always a mary sue, that hogs screen time from more interesting characters.
 
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It matters because its almost always a mary sue, that hogs screen time from more interesting characters.
I don't disagree that it's something an author could do without a little self-control, but I haven't gotten mary sue vibes from Val. Could be my bias talking but I really don't think so. Besides, there really haven't been many situations outside of maybe Ethan's ambush where a "mary-sue mode" could even engage.

If she were a true Mary sue, she'd probably have single handedly defeated all three men without effort, lectured them on how what they were doing was bad, then they would have thanked her and re-evaluated their lives. :ROFLMAO:
 
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