She was always aware of the bullying. She knew about it but did nothing. When she told if you continue to bully him we won't be friends anymore then what was Ethan's answers, I can do whatever I want. Did she keep her promise? No, she did not even go after MC, Alexis did.
After MC left, she kept Ethan as a friend. Bully of her so-called best friend but she did not even hesitate to keep his friendship. He kept harassing everyone around her, she always chose him. She even believed Alexis has slept with him because of that if not Alexis' loyalty she was going to lose Alexis' friendship too. She only stoped seeing Ethan after that.
She even admits she liked him. She does not say I never liked him, she says I never liked him in that way. that means she liked Ethan in someway, most likely as a friend. So, Ethan bullied MC in front of her, he even openly admitted he liked bullying MC and it's a fun activity for him and Erynn liked him. He caused MC departure, as Erynn told Alexis pained her so much but she kept him as a friend and even liked him.
When does she ended it? Yes, when Ethan put his target on her. Only then.... So if she wanted it, she could have ended it before but she only did it when it hurt her. Such a selfish behaviour.
Oh btw, she can weasel out from the situations perfectly also. You did nothing, right Erynn? It was aaaall Ethan, then why are you still friends with him.
And when MC returned, she asked why did you leave, why did you leave. As if she does not know. Is she that stupid? Let's say she was not aware that MC thought they laughed at him. Even then situation was clear, MC confessed to her, Ethan made fun of him then MC left. After that they stopped talking then it ended up with MC leaving town. Is she really that stupid that did not even understand what MC felt? Maybe she is though, even she said so after all.
She believes whatever Ethan tells her. Ethan said Alexis slept with him then she believed that even after everything he did. Remember, Alexis was her last friend. Ethan cost them all, starting with MC but she still believed him. Even after years past, all the bullying, all the blackmail, all the beating, literally pimping her but she still can question Alexis and believe Ethan. She is as stupid as Zack if not more. At least, Zack did not see the evil side of Ethan but even though Erynn saw it, she's always believes him. It won't be surprising Ethan is the one behind whole Zane thing.
Is this enough? Nope. First of all she ask MC to meet with her, then ditch him to meet Ethan and did not even inform MC. After a late notice, MC catches her with Ethan while handholding. I know Ethan forced her to be with him there but she should have understand what MC sees. So, after everything happened what she does, she does blame Alexis. Yes, she blames Alexis in that situation with the worst possible accusations.
She should know Alexis would never do such a thing. Also she was the one who invited MC, she was the one who ditched MC, she was the one who was holding Ethan's hand. How could Alexis plan such a thing to get MC angry to Erynn? What could she gain from it? She is the faulty one here but instead of owning her mistake, she blames MC and Alexis. Such a low thing to do.
Though, it takes one to know one. When the situation arises, she does exact thing that she blamed Alexis do. If MC does not help Erynn, she immediately told that to Alexis even if they were not talking. She knows Alexis so good that she is aware Alexis will breakup with MC. She punishes MC for not helping her, as if he is obliged to clean up her fuck ups.
She is aware of the Alexis' first kiss, she knows MC is Alexis' type, then she tells you never talked to him. Even though, Alexis was the one who consoled MC and Erynn knows about it.
She knows MC needs a place to stay but she kicks him out without explanation. If MC tries to understand what's going on, she just sends him away. Even if, it has nothing to do with MC.
God forbids if you tell MC that Ethan saw MC and he was angry about it, that he is dangerous and he may gang up on MC. But Erynn cares so much about MC, she was okay to throw him under the bus.
She can ask any question and MC has to answer but she does not have to answer. Why the secrecy Erynn, your past mistakes came to bite you in the back and if you are open about it, you fear you can't use MC, right?
I have so many more screenshots about her and so many things she did to talk about but I don't want to make this post longer. All I can say about her she is not a good person. She does not deserve Alexis, she does not deserve MC, she does not deserve the love she receive. She can do whatever she wants but if anything does not go to her way she takes her revenge, unless of course you are Ethan.
It's okay to invade MC's privacy snoops at his phone comes to his room without asking, it's okay to put him in danger and don't explain shit unless he went into fist fight with that danger itself. She really is an ugly soul.
I appreciate the effort of your post even if I don't agree with you saying she isn't a good person. To me I don't think she is much worst of a person than Alexis is. But to me Erynn is a classic case of a character of how we interpret certain situations / scenes in a AVN and of course your own personal experience and point of view and personality comes into play. As I see alot of these scenario's differently than you do ( not all).
I appreciate the effort of your post even if I don't agree with you saying she isn't a good person. To me I don't think she is much worst of a person than Alexis is. But to me Erynn is a classic case of a character of how we interpret certain situations / scenes in a AVN and of course your own personal experience and point of view and personality comes into play. As I see alot of these scenario's differently than you do ( not all).
I'd like to ask, care to elaborate but last time I did that a fucking war erupted.
Edit: Though I still want to ask about Alexis, after all iirc you were the one who made me change my opinion about her. Besides handling Erynn thing terribly, what did she do to compare her to Erynn? She is lovely, a little bit too much jealous for my taste but even that can be cute, she is clearly in love with MC, probably has a thing for MC since their childhood, not annoying like Erynn. Never liked that Ethan person, which is a big plus. Almost exact opposite of Erynn in many cases.
She was always aware of the bullying. She knew about it but did nothing. When she told if you continue to bully him we won't be friends anymore then what was Ethan's answers, I can do whatever I want. Did she keep her promise? No, she did not even go after MC, Alexis did.
After MC left, she kept Ethan as a friend. Bully of her so-called best friend but she did not even hesitate to keep his friendship. He kept harassing everyone around her, she always chose him. She even believed Alexis has slept with him because of that if not Alexis' loyalty she was going to lose Alexis' friendship too. She only stoped seeing Ethan after that.
She even admits she liked him. She does not say I never liked him, she says I never liked him in that way. that means she liked Ethan in someway, most likely as a friend. So, Ethan bullied MC in front of her, he even openly admitted he liked bullying MC and it's a fun activity for him and Erynn liked him. He caused MC departure, as Erynn told Alexis pained her so much but she kept him as a friend and even liked him.
When does she ended it? Yes, when Ethan put his target on her. Only then.... So if she wanted it, she could have ended it before but she only did it when it hurt her. Such a selfish behaviour.
Oh btw, she can weasel out from the situations perfectly also. You did nothing, right Erynn? It was aaaall Ethan, then why are you still friends with him.
And when MC returned, she asked why did you leave, why did you leave. As if she does not know. Is she that stupid? Let's say she was not aware that MC thought they laughed at him. Even then situation was clear, MC confessed to her, Ethan made fun of him then MC left. After that they stopped talking then it ended up with MC leaving town. Is she really that stupid that did not even understand what MC felt? Maybe she is though, even she said so after all.
She believes whatever Ethan tells her. Ethan said Alexis slept with him then she believed that even after everything he did. Remember, Alexis was her last friend. Ethan cost them all, starting with MC but she still believed him. Even after years past, all the bullying, all the blackmail, all the beating, literally pimping her but she still can question Alexis and believe Ethan. She is as stupid as Zack if not more. At least, Zack did not see the evil side of Ethan but even though Erynn saw it, she's always believes him. It won't be surprising Ethan is the one behind whole Zane thing.
Is this enough? Nope. First of all she ask MC to meet with her, then ditch him to meet Ethan and did not even inform MC. After a late notice, MC catches her with Ethan while handholding. I know Ethan forced her to be with him there but she should have understand what MC sees. So, after everything happened what she does, she does blame Alexis. Yes, she blames Alexis in that situation with the worst possible accusations.
She should know Alexis would never do such a thing. Also she was the one who invited MC, she was the one who ditched MC, she was the one who was holding Ethan's hand. How could Alexis plan such a thing to get MC angry to Erynn? What could she gain from it? She is the faulty one here but instead of owning her mistake, she blames MC and Alexis. Such a low thing to do.
Though, it takes one to know one. When the situation arises, she does exact thing that she blamed Alexis do. If MC does not help Erynn, she immediately told that to Alexis even if they were not talking. She knows Alexis so good that she is aware Alexis will breakup with MC. She punishes MC for not helping her, as if he is obliged to clean up her fuck ups.
She is aware of the Alexis' first kiss, she knows MC is Alexis' type, then she tells you never talked to him. Even though, Alexis was the one who consoled MC and Erynn knows about it.
She knows MC needs a place to stay but she kicks him out without explanation. If MC tries to understand what's going on, she just sends him away. Even if, it has nothing to do with MC.
God forbids if you tell MC that Ethan saw MC and he was angry about it, that he is dangerous and he may gang up on MC. But Erynn cares so much about MC, she was okay to throw him under the bus.
She can ask any question and MC has to answer but she does not have to answer. Why the secrecy Erynn, your past mistakes came to bite you in the back and if you are open about it, you fear you can't use MC, right?
I have so many more screenshots about her and so many things she did to talk about but I don't want to make this post longer. All I can say about her she is not a good person. She does not deserve Alexis, she does not deserve MC, she does not deserve the love she receive. She can do whatever she wants but if anything does not go to her way she takes her revenge, unless of course you are Ethan.
It's okay to invade MC's privacy snoops at his phone comes to his room without asking, it's okay to put him in danger and don't explain shit unless he went into fist fight with that danger itself. She really is an ugly soul.
Same as before tbh, fucking despise her. Even so to the point, when Nyx said someone gonna die I wish to be her.
I'd like to ask, care to elaborate but last time I did that a fucking war erupted.
Edit: Though I still want to ask about Alexis, after all iirc you were the one who made me change my opinion about her. Besides handling Erynn thing terribly, what did she do to compare her to Erynn? She is lovely, a little bit too much jealous for my taste but even that can be cute, she is clearly in love with MC, probably has a thing for MC since their childhood, not annoying like Erynn. Never liked that Ethan person, which is a big plus. Almost exact opposite of Erynn in many cases.
yeah I didn't want to start another flame war and besides most of my reasons for why I see things differently is cause I just
interpret things a bit differently. I'd say Alexis is still a better person than Erynn at the end of the day but I just don't see Erynn being alot worst is all cause of how I see things. That and well I'm a very forgiving and understanding person so it's easy for me to see things in a much different light than someone that has broken things down into detail liek you have. Which is why I think with most of the things Erynn has done isn't strickly black and white but how we see / interpret her actions and understand her reasons for doing things.
As far as Alexis has done really only bad thing she has done is the Erynn stuff. The only thing I can think of outside of that is tearing or your throwing your shirt away Nikki bought you. I can't think of much but not gonna lie I do need to replay her path I have a hard time remembering anything not involved with the Erynn stuff right now. I been thinking of replaying her path before the update and Erynn's when the update drops.
This but she puts a show to make people believe she is innocent, hurt person because how kind she is. If someone can explain why she stayed friends with Ethan and still under the influence of him, I'd gladly listen. Not generic answer that claims she is just naive though.
As far as Alexis has done really only bad thing she has done is the Erynn stuff. The only thing I can think of outside of that is tearing or your throwing your shirt away Nikki bought you. I can't think of much but not gonna lie I do need to replay her path I have a hard time remembering anything not involved with the Erynn stuff right now. I been thinking of replaying her path before the update and Erynn's when the update drops.
You remember exact opposite, Nikki ripped Erynn's gift because it reminded her manbun-ex, then she bought that weird coloured thing. I am not even sure what Alexis did was wrong anyway. She really tried to stay away from MC. She gave in after their 3rd random encounter, then she decided to talk with Erynn because she believed Erynn should have known before MC. Pretty sure, with all emotional immaturity of MC, Alexis was right with all of her reservations.
yeah I didn't want to start another flame war and besides most of my reasons for why I see things differently is cause I just
interpret things a bit differently. I'd say Alexis is still a better person than Erynn at the end of the day but I just don't see Erynn being alot worst is all cause of how I see things. That and well I'm a very forgiving and understanding person so it's easy for me to see things in a much different light than someone that has broken things down into detail liek you have. Which is why I think with most of the things Erynn has done isn't strickly black and white but how we see / interpret her actions and understand her reasons for doing things.
Sorry looks like I already did, though I've posted more elaborate in-game post about background characters but seems like people drawn to hatred more.
If you manage to read through my shitty writing, I did try to explain something about Erynn though. You can dissect her actions but all of the actions compliments her in one way, she has deceitful, insincere, even pious personality. There maybe one thing redeemable of her which comes from Alexis btw, she mentions how much she changed without showing to the outside because of the fear of Ethan. If that is true, which is highly likely, then all the fakeness in her maybe caused by that, yet again she did it to herself by keeping Ethan that close to her.
Why does she still keeps Ethan's photos?
Last time I've talked about Erynn it was like the battle of Stamford Bridge, maybe that's why.
This but she puts a show to make people believe she is innocent, hurt person because how kind she is. If someone can explain why she stayed friends with Ethan and still under the influence of him, I'd gladly listen. Not generic answer that claims she is just naive though.
You remember exact opposite, Nikki ripped Erynn's gift because it reminded her manbun-ex, then she bought that weird coloured thing. I am not even sure what Alexis did was wrong anyway. She really tried to stay away from MC. She gave in after their 3rd random encounter, then she decided to talk with Erynn because she believed Erynn should have known before MC. Pretty sure, with all emotional immaturity of MC, Alexis was right with all of her reservations.
Sorry looks like I already did, though I've posted more elaborate in-game post about background characters but seems like people drawn to hatred more.
If you manage to read through my shitty writing, I did try to explain something about Erynn though. You can dissect her actions but all of the actions compliments her in one way, she has deceitful, insincere, even pious personality. There maybe one thing redeemable of her which comes from Alexis btw, she mentions how much she changed without showing to the outside because of the fear of Ethan. If that is true, which is highly likely, then all the fakeness in her maybe caused by that, yet again she did it to herself by keeping Ethan that close to her.
Why does she still keeps Ethan's photos?
There's unfortunately a lot of stuff that requires answering about Erynn but you know Nyx will drag it out for as long possible, she the queen of fucking with you and pointless overconvulated drama. Despite this still being my third most commented in thread, it's the reason I distanced myself from this for a while...just too damn messy and annoying.
Now unless Nyx going to throw in the excuse of all reasons as to why she is wrapped around Ethan's finger, even her most ardent, die-hard supporters (I was one) are going to lose faith. In fact, at this point, it would not even surprise me if she stops being an LI at some point...just there purely for cynicism and drama amongst the others.
Like any bad soap opera, this fucking drama with her needs a resolution and ASAP because it's just not interesting anymore, not at this point of the VN, it's dragged for far too long.
There's unfortunately a lot of stuff that requires answering about Erynn but you know Nyx will drag it out for as long possible, she the queen of fucking with you and pointless overconvulated drama. Despite this still being my third most commented in thread, it's the reason I distanced myself from this for a while...just too damn messy and annoying.
Now unless Nyx going to throw in the excuse of all reasons as to why she is wrapped around Ethan's finger, even her most ardent, die-hard supporters are going to lose faith. In fact, at this point, it would not even surprise me if she stops being an LI at some point...just there purely for cynicism and drama amongst the others.
Like any bad soap opera, this fucking drama with her needs a resolution and ASAP because it's just not interesting anymore, not at this point of the VN, it's dragged for far too long.
I agree about what the Nyx part but she is very good at dealing these dramas, so if she has a plan to explain it I believe she will do it magnificently. I still am thinking, whatever it is that lies behind the secret she shared with Ethan. Maybe something about her father, maybe something completely different but that flashback filled with information.
Did you ever read Nyx's insight about Valeria and her relationships. It makes so much sense that made me play the game over and over again. Also, even though she changes her opinions too many times, she has a very strict idea about the game and does not compromise on them. So, Erynn will be an LI. Though, I think that beach kill/fuck/marry game is not just a game but also future flag. If I am correct Nyx will kill either Iris or Erynn depending on who you put them over the the other one. Most likely, Erynn and John will learn about they are father and daughter then Ethan will cause a danger which will result of the death of Iris or Erynn or both.
There's unfortunately a lot of stuff that requires answering about Erynn but you know Nyx will drag it out for as long possible, she the queen of fucking with you and pointless overconvulated drama. Despite this still being my third most commented in thread, it's the reason I distanced myself from this for a while...just too damn messy and annoying.
Now unless Nyx going to throw in the excuse of all reasons as to why she is wrapped around Ethan's finger, even her most ardent, die-hard supporters (I was one) are going to lose faith. In fact, at this point, it would not even surprise me if she stops being an LI at some point...just there purely for cynicism and drama amongst the others.
Like any bad soap opera, this fucking drama with her needs a resolution and ASAP because it's just not interesting anymore, not at this point of the VN, it's dragged for far too long.
I've noticed that it's, for the most part, easy to tell when an actual woman is behind the writin in a game: Unnecessary drama. Now, this is factual about 85 - 90% of the time. Bt there are a few male devs who are more attuned to their feminine side and who love their drama.
If I am correct Nyx will kill either Iris or Erynn depending on who you put them over the the other one. Most likely, Erynn and John will learn about they are father and daughter then Ethan will cause a danger which will result of the death of Iris or Erynn or both.
Let's see what will happen, mine is wishful thinking at this point anyway. There is a huge potential that Nyx gonna fuck up all these drama and make a mess of it. Though, like I mentioned whole Daryll&Valeria shit was too annoying for me, so I checked the discord what were they talking about it. Turns out Nyx has very good explanation and idea of what's going on there, so I take that as a reference point for what I said.
Elena is trapped in her family role. What Elena is looking for is support and for the burden to be lifted from her at times and the whole beach scene shows how grateful she is for that.
He has known Iris for two years. He knows what makes her tick. But the most important thing is that he can talk to her about anything.
Yeah, mine would be kill Erynn twice to be sure she is dead, ignore Alexis, fuck and marry Iris but for the lack of choices I always go kill Erynn, fuck Alexis, marry Iris option.
Well I need to replay anyway...I'm many updates behind, pretty much caught up on my backlog but don't know what you're talking about..guess I'll find out.
Will most likely just make my third save (I cut down to just three, Erynn, Alex with Erryn help and Nikki and fuck everyone's problems) my favourite. In that one, Nikki is LI, could't care less about anyone's issues, watch Erynn self-destruct, Layla can be killed by her stalker for all I fucking care...remind me wtf Darryl is? Fuck him too...never cared about Valnyx anyway....
It's actually an enjoyable save when you just refuse to help anyone rofl (whether you still can do that is another matter, guess I'll find out).
Last time I've talked about Erynn it was like the battle of Stamford Bridge, maybe that's why.
This but she puts a show to make people believe she is innocent, hurt person because how kind she is. If someone can explain why she stayed friends with Ethan and still under the influence of him, I'd gladly listen. Not generic answer that claims she is just naive though.
You remember exact opposite, Nikki ripped Erynn's gift because it reminded her manbun-ex, then she bought that weird coloured thing. I am not even sure what Alexis did was wrong anyway. She really tried to stay away from MC. She gave in after their 3rd random encounter, then she decided to talk with Erynn because she believed Erynn should have known before MC. Pretty sure, with all emotional immaturity of MC, Alexis was right with all of her reservations.
Sorry looks like I already did, though I've posted more elaborate in-game post about background characters but seems like people drawn to hatred more.
If you manage to read through my shitty writing, I did try to explain something about Erynn though. You can dissect her actions but all of the actions compliments her in one way, she has deceitful, insincere, even pious personality. There maybe one thing redeemable of her which comes from Alexis btw, she mentions how much she changed without showing to the outside because of the fear of Ethan. If that is true, which is highly likely, then all the fakeness in her maybe caused by that, yet again she did it to herself by keeping Ethan that close to her.
Why does she still keeps Ethan's photos?
Oh yeah it was Nikki don't know how I mixed that up lol. Also sorry if this is a bit hard to understand it's kind of hard to explain what im thinking about when it comes to this. also sorry if I repeat myself a bit it's something that is easy for me to do when trying to explaining something that is hard for me to put into words.
Yeah I agree I don't think what Alexis did regarding her lie was really horrible either but it sure isn't good either. Not gonna lie it does suck to see post like yours about my favorite AVN LI of all time haha. Only cause there is some truth to it even if I may disagree cause of my own personal point of view / interpretation. But im not so blind that im going to simp for her and disregard your point entirely or make excuses for her cause I just happen to like her alot. ( Even if it sounds like I am from time to time) I'm not saying you didn't make any good points cause you did it's a really good post but it's just hard for me to see it the same way cause of how forgiving and understanding I can be.
One thing we do differ on is I don't see her a deceitful at least not on purpose I think it's more when she is insecure or Jealous or scared she can have moments where she is deceitful without meaning to on purpose. Like when she saw we knew Alexis and snooped in our phone. To me a deceitful person is someone that acts like that on purpose not when they have moments of weakness cause of other feelings.
But yeah not everything she did I can agree with or be understand why, like why she didn't cut of Ethan sooner other than perhaps there was more to what meets the eye cause it did seem like there was some secret we don't know about. But still whatever the secret was I don't know why she would still be his friend in that moment. But at the same time since she never cut Ethan off I can understand why she might have kept Ethan as a friend still. ( don't want to explain why I can understand trying to keep this vague) Things like that is why I say she is a perfect character that isn't black and white but more one that our own views and personality can shape alot on how we see her and her actions. Cause like you pointed out in your post there is alot of questionable things she has done yet my point of view and interpretation lets me see some of those things in a different light but not so much so that I disagree with your points 100% other than maybe certain things.
Sorry again if this was a bit of a ramble or doesn't make sense not something I am able to explain how I feel easily. But I do respect your opinion and I do enjoy seeing different point of views despite my difference in opinion or views.
