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I agree I feel like the blackmail part, hell the whole Ethan part of the story was unnecessary. The fact that the MC unknowingly hooked up with Erynn's best friend Lexi on the plane and then later at the bar. As well as the whole confession misunderstanding, which had me completely anti-Erynn btw the first time that I played this I can't lie, until I saw what really happened.
These things were enough to make the Erynn path interesting for me.
I don't think that I've played an AVN yet, where I'm really as invested in the main storyline as I am in the romantic relationships with the LI's. Usually I just want to get through the main story as fast as possible and get to the good stuff, and no not the lewds, they aren't that important to me.
I feel like the Zach redemption may be coming, but now I feel like it's too little too late. For me he's now beyond redemption, unless he literally takes a bullet for the MC or one of the girls. We shall see.
I could see a redemption where he finds out what Ethan has been doing to his favourite model. He could take the route of I forgot his name, but I think Christian in Chasing Sunsets.

Release what’s happening reach out to the MC and friends. MC decides whether to trust him or not and the redemption can begin. Would still take a lot to get there, but it wouldn’t be impossible.
 

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I wish this whole Ethan blackmail drama would end in the next update, it's already taking too long and I'm sick of this guy, at the very least he deserves to end up in jail or screwed, Zach is an idiot and in my opinion doesn't deserve redemption after everything he's done, especially since Ethan ends the update planning to get revenge on the MC with Zach's help if you intervene and beat him up when he's pressing Eryn against the wall outside the bar.
 

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And Zack didn’t need to turn into a complete scumbag either. Would’ve liked to see a redemption for him. Learning from MC and the girls how to be flirty and teasing properly.
I feel like the Zach redemption may be coming, but now I feel like it's too little too late. For me he's now beyond redemption, unless he literally takes a bullet for the MC or one of the girls. We shall see.
Let's see how Zach will play out in this plot, will he figure out that Ethan is using him and change his ways... help bring him down? Learn from this, become a good guy and start dating one of the random girls(Hat Girl maybe)?
Though at this point i'm more inclined to seeing him face first in the gutter, that would be cathartic :cool:
Zach is an idiot and in my opinion doesn't deserve redemption after everything he's done

ZACH TRUE END PATH (AND ZTSRP)

"You always were an asshole Zach."

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That last update did feel like they were trying to keep Zach redeemable by having him basically think that MC is bullying Ethan. Zach is a fucking idiot to believe that lie, but I see what Nyx is going for.
 
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That last update did feel like they were trying to keep Zach redeemable by having him basically think that MC is bullying Ethan. Zach is a fucking idiot to believe that lie, but I see what Nyx is going for.
Zach is naive, immature, and extremely gullible but he is not beyond redemption. The only thing he's really done wrong, beyond his inability to socialize with women, is beleive ethan and I strongly beleive that was based in jealousy and self pity. It's much easier to beleive someone else is at fault than look at yourself and admit fault. I'm thinking when ethan tries to pressure val into "giving zach a chance" it will come out that she's being blackmailer or whatever. Once that Zach realizes the type of person Ethan is he'kk come around, even if he doesn't earn forgiveness.
 
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well, Melissa is in it if that's what you are wondering. If the question is if they fucked yet, wait a year or two more. Elena isn't in the update at all.
Thanks, kind of what i expected. As an optimist i'm hoping no more than a year for both.
 

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It’s even more impressive how she keeps such an intertwined story, so diverse and coherent.
Props to anyone running things solo and specially when it has potential.
A Lot of it is just inexcusable, period.
 

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Thanks, kind of what i expected. As an optimist i'm hoping no more than a year for both.
To be with Elena, MC breaks Layla's heart. Layla then is not happy with Elena and ends their friendship (Lexi/Erynn similarities anyone?).

Elena gets mad at MC and says he had better repair what's going on with Layla, as her friendship with Layla is more important than the MC. Until MC can repair things in-story with Layla, I wouldn't expect any major progress on the Elena front. If anything she's probably avoiding the MC until that happens.
 

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Zach is naive, immature, and extremely gullible but he is not beyond redemption. The only thing he's really done wrong, beyond his inability to socialize with women, is beleive ethan and I strongly beleive that was based in jealousy and self pity. It's much easier to beleive someone else is at fault than look at yourself and admit fault. I'm thinking when ethan tries to pressure val into "giving zach a chance" it will come out that she's being blackmailer or whatever. Once that Zach realizes the type of person Ethan is he'kk come around, even if he doesn't earn forgiveness.
Far more optimistic than me. :unsure: Once he decided to use his fist to MC's jaw, instead of his words, that ended any interest in a redemption arc from me. Had he just been sold on the lies and manipulation, that's one thing. But taking it physical, completely out of the blue, that was it for me. Should I get an option for a Fatality for Zach I'll be taking it every single time, just like Ethan.
 

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To be with Elena, MC breaks Layla's heart. Layla then is not happy with Elena and ends their friendship (Lexi/Erynn similarities anyone?).

Elena gets mad at MC and says he had better repair what's going on with Layla, as her friendship with Layla is more important than the MC. Until MC can repair things in-story with Layla, I wouldn't expect any major progress on the Elena front. If anything she's probably avoiding the MC until that happens.
Layla was about to say something last time they met before stupid ass MC left instead of waiting for two minutes for Layla to gather her thoughts. He was being impulsive again. So I think the patching up things won't take that long. Or who knows, it will drag on for 2-3 more updates, school days will be hella awkward then :ROFLMAO: He doesn't even have any more friends left in school maybe except Val but she may be hanging out with the girls out of solidarity.
 

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Far more optimistic than me. :unsure: Once he decided to use his fist to MC's jaw, instead of his words, that ended any interest in a redemption arc from me. Had he just been sold on the lies and manipulation, that's one thing. But taking it physical, completely out of the blue, that was it for me. Should I get an option for a Fatality for Zach I'll be taking it every single time, just like Ethan.
To each their own I suppose, I've been in physical fights with friends before, it happens. We're still friends now, tempers flare and dumb things happen it's hardly the end of the world.
 
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Layla was about to say something last time they met before stupid ass MC left instead of waiting for two minutes for Layla to gather her thoughts. He was being impulsive again. So I think the patching up things won't take that long. Or who knows, it will drag on for 2-3 more updates, school days will be hella awkward then :ROFLMAO: He doesn't even have any more friends left in school maybe except Val but she may be hanging out with the girls out of solidarity.
He likes doing that to the Monroe sisters a lot apparently. His breakup with Alexis in the bathroom happens in a similar fashion with her saying wait and his continuing on his way
 
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He likes doing that to the Monroe sisters a lot apparently. His breakup with Alexis in the bathroom happens in a similar fashion with her saying wait and his continuing on his way
Didn't Alexis break up with him first because of her guilt over the Erynn stuff and it was up to us if we want to go to the bathroom to change her mind. Been awhile since I played it. Alexis is the one path I honestly can't recall the MC having any miss understanding , since it seems to be Alexis the one jumping to conclusions / making the impulsive decisions first to me.

So you make me curious if im forgetting something.
 

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Didn't Alexis break up with him first because of her guilt over the Erynn stuff and it was up to us if we want to go to the bathroom to change her mind. Been awhile since I played it. Alexis is the one path I honestly can't recall the MC having any miss understanding , since it seems to be Alexis the one jumping to conclusions / making the impulsive decisions first to me.

So you make me curious if im forgetting something.
MC broke up with Lexi at the bar. Then at the pizzeria you have a couple prompts to help her with groceries, and forgive her at the car. She doesn't budge there. Then at their house you can go to her room and finally make up. The latter two locations both have options to permanently end her route.
 

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Didn't Alexis break up with him first because of her guilt over the Erynn stuff and it was up to us if we want to go to the bathroom to change her mind. Been awhile since I played it. Alexis is the one path I honestly can't recall the MC having any miss understanding , since it seems to be Alexis the one jumping to conclusions / making the impulsive decisions first to me.

So you make me curious if im forgetting something.
To paraphrase (I'll likely go back later), she's all we shouldn't be together because we'll hurt other people and if you go k and leave she'll be all wait, but it'll be too late cuz mc is gone.
 
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MC broke up with Lexi at the bar. Then at the pizzeria you have a couple prompts to help her with groceries, and forgive her at the car. She doesn't budge there. Then at their house you can go to her room and finally make up.
ah okay yeah I forgot about the bar part. but we all know she didn't budge at pizzeria because the MC ordered a pineapple pizza :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
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