VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.14.1] [Nyx]

[davildante]

I noticed a lot of communication between Dev and Erynn fans......so i would not be surprised that in later chapters Alexis will turn out to be togther with Ethan and they want to drag Erynn down together. Erynn already broke up with Alexis because she slept with Ethan or at least she believes it. (Which is again strange because Erynn claims not to be together with Ethan ..so what?) What if this is true and Alexis and Ethan work together and the reason why Alexis is after MC is just
to hurt Erynn and keep him out of the way of Ethans business?...
I am just spinning here but who knows...
I played the game now several times differently and its fact that the Alexis path is really the most dense engaging and beautyful written one
above all other female characters. Erynn Fans claim that dev has stated that Erynn is LI Nr. 1 for MC if its true. There must be a reason why the Dev put yet so much work into Alexis path. Maybe for a better effect in a later twist?

No, author just comunicate with people she think understand her grand plan. That comfortable not to recive critics to improve your work but to just have nice talk.

I read that she wanted to rerender some thing from first ep, why not change some things that improve your work? I fell she just keep throwing Erynn on players as a couple or friend even if some people may not want it. Even if they see her story flaws with her not bieng fault in enithing like NewTricks say'd. When we have beautiful portrayed story of Lexi who is not saint enough and can apologise for her flaws. Even then if player chose cut tyes with E its still affect story with A. "Cut ties with my favorite char is bad thing" - that what author tell as when he show as that something happened to her in ep9 or when Eathan try to mock MC telling him how good E was in bed with him(if you chose not to help her and go home with groceries). Why MC should care? There planty of woman who can apologise properly and have nice talk on her problems after. Why author portrait decent woman character who can acknowledge her mistakes and give apology for them: Lexi,Lyala,Cara. And in same time give us miss saint who dont have mistakes and when she f**k up its always someone else fault when it clearly not.

I foreseen that we find her, help her even if we chose before to not get in her mess and then will be difference. If we chose not interfere before she go away or be friend on beckground. And if we chose help her before either to keep relation with Lexi or someone realy want date Erynn. We got her as couple or friend on that path.

 

[CrioniC.Syn]

No, author just comunicate with people she think understand her grand plan. That comfortable not to recive critics to improve your work but to just have nice talk.

That's not true. You probably never even talked to her. She listens to what people say and criticize, just not haters who think know better.

And if you hate the dev and game so much, why are you here and constantly complain?

 

[cxx]

And if you hate the dev and game so much, why are you here and constantly complain?

wants to share feelings or is masochist.

 

[davildante]

That's not true. You probably never even talked to her. She listens to what people say and criticize, just not haters who think know better.

And if you hate the dev and game so much, why are you here and constantly complain?

And how she dicide who haters and who give valid critics? Just like you?

When i say'd "i dont like the game"? All my comment was about poorly written Erryn story in the game not game in general. And comments was invented, so people can shere there opinion. If i dont liked game i wont be here, or its not a chat for DISSCUSION a game?

I can tell you the same thing, if you dont like my opinion dont reply to me, dont read my messages. I see moderators delite our previous comments so try to not insult peolpe or attack them with your agression.

 

[G27111]

mans really stuck on that apology lmfao, who knew a simple sorry could change so much to someone

 

[The Senior Perv]

see this is how you do it while being respectful, everyone will see these characters differently. Where you think that she wants to carry on from where they left off and he doesnt i disagree but thats because of our intentions i think, i feel like both want to carry on where they left off from the last time they see eachother, obviously both have grown up and will be different but i believe its what they both want and thats because its what i want. but as you most likely feel like you would rather someone else it wont feel that way to you and thats cool.

alexis is definitely easier to go with, you get into a relationship pretty quickly with her and she has a lot of the time so far to be able to do that. erynn one is definitely a lot more problematic, for me and my logic its harder when you have been friends for so many years before, you want to do it right and you dont want to rush in and ruin the friendship you had. whereas alexis you dont really have much past with except she was friends with erynn, yeah you kissed her as a kid but the relationship you had with erynn is a lot more deeper, alexis you have nothing to lose if it doesnt work out.

erynn route is a lot more slow burn, she has problems she needs to fix before anything really develops. some dont like her story, i dont think its poorly written its just different.

personally i like the different storys and how they mix, everyone will feel different towards each character and everyone likes different things, i dont blame anyone for wanting the LI of their choice, the only thing that makes no sense is the actual hate for some of the girls. when i started the game for me erynn pulled me in, the story of their past, how it ended, i like the story of them being best friends from a young age, developing feelings moving apart to come back together and get it right. sure she has a lot of drama around her, but ive always thought in rl if you want something good it wont always come easy, i dont mind having to battle through different things and emotions to get the person i want so on a game its not really putting me off. plus i kind of like the slow burn aspect to it.

i think as the story goes on we will find out a lot more about erynn and have more time with her to where it might change some peoples opinions.

Nice comment. I don't really mind if people dislike Erynn, we all have different tastes after all. The problem I have is those haters that give Erynn credit of things she never did just to justify their dislike towards her. It sometimes seems they just saw the prologue scene in the airplane and that's all they needed to hate Erynn, not even giving her a chance to explain herself after the restaurant "date" with Ethan.

 

[G27111]

Nice comment. I don't really mind if people dislike Erynn, we all have different tastes after all. The problem I have is those haters that give Erynn credit of things she never did just to justify their dislike towards her. It sometimes seems they just saw the prologue scene in the airplane and that's all they needed to hate Erynn, not even giving her a chance to explain herself after the restaurant "date" with Ethan.

exactly man, idc if someone dislikes any character, but as you say when they make things up or bring out a truth but twist it to fit their narrative it just becomes weird. Its almost like they believe it themselves too so its like they need to give themselves the reason to dislike.

we are all different people and have different tastes, it would be boring if everyone liked the same thing and thought the same way.

if i was in the MC position, told a girl i like her, she talks to her friends and laughs and i think that it was towards me, sure id feel a certain way. I wouldnt move though lol id end up speaking to her again and it would have been sorted. this is obviously a game though and certain things need to happen to progress it so i get it. Once i knew that i was misunderstood i wouldnt care, i wouldnt need a apology for that. i wouldnt be mad that she went and spoke to her friends. the reasons i see are just weird to me

 

[davildante]

mans really stuck on that apology lmfao, who knew a simple sorry could change so much to someone

Yes, realy how much that simple word in right context can change story in eyes of people. Its like right spice in dish can give good aftertaste.

 

[CrioniC.Syn]

And how she dicide who haters and who give valid critics? Just like you?

When i say'd "i dont like the game"? All my comment was about poorly written Erryn story in the game not game in general. And comments was invented, so people can shere there opinion. If i dont liked game i wont be here, or its not a chat for DISSCUSION a game?

I can tell you the same thing, if you dont like my opinion dont reply to me, dont read my messages. I see moderators delite our previous comments so try to not insult peolpe or attack them with your agression.

Again, I didn't insult you. It was my opinion that offended you, which again confirms what I've been saying this whole time.
It is very easy to know if someone gives feedback or is just hating for no apparent reason.

Why don't you try and talk to her and say what you think is wrong with the game? She might agree with you and change it, you never know.
But you won't do that. You rather just keep complaining here.

 

[G27111]

Yes, realy how much that simple word in right context can change story in eyes of people. Its like right spice in dish can give good aftertaste.

LOL maybe you just give more importance to that word than i do, If i could see by action that someone cares and that it was a misunderstanding then i wouldnt need a apology to make me feel different. I would rather that than someone saying sorry but seeming to not care or show they care through actions. I know people who will say sorry for everything and also who will never apologize but you can tell that they either want to or are remorseful, some find it hard to say it.

 

[JC07]

mans really stuck in that apology lmfao, who knew that a simple excuse could change so much for someone

But she already not apologized? Want a shower of rose petals and a speaker? Sometimes, despite my best efforts, I don't understand people.

For me these waters are already at sea. Both were wrong, she erred in not going after the MC since she cared so much, MC erred by not reading a simple letter. Damn, I know he was upset, and I thought she had no feelings for him. But for God's sake, wasn't he curious what a person who supposedly had no feelings for him wanted to send so many letters?

And even if she hadn't apologized, if she didn't have feelings for him. What the fuck is you who knows that a girl who was your friend, that you loved, your neighbor, daughter of a person like Melissa, who is suffering blackmail and physical and mental loss, she would not help? Why didn't she apologize to you for coming after you? or because ne feels the same thing as you? So you'd let her be raped, assaulted, killed... So?

Empathy sends a memory.

 

[JC07]

LOL maybe you just give more importance to that word than i do, If i could see by action that someone cares and that it was a misunderstanding then i wouldnt need a apology to make me feel different. I would rather that than someone saying sorry but seeming to not care or show they care through actions. I know people who will say sorry for everything and also who will never apologize but you can tell that they either want to or are remorseful, some find it hard to say it.

Not to mention who often the "apology" is from the mouth out. And the actions, well ,as is the saying the saying even?

 

[davildante]

LOL maybe you just give more importance to that word than i do, If i could see by action that someone cares and that it was a misunderstanding then i wouldnt need a apology to make me feel different. I would rather that than someone saying sorry but seeming to not care or show they care through actions. I know people who will say sorry for everything and also who will never apologize but you can tell that they either want to or are remorseful, some find it hard to say it.

Look, in game we not see that she sorry that situation happened like it did. That maybe she should say her friends that she go to her or his house to continue they talk or something like that. That she acted differently if she knew to what situation come. Cuz act like she did, i mean got districted by some joke is wrong in middle of confession from close friend. He is, not some nobody to her to act like that. She may dont realise at the time she half kid, but time goes she became adult and can analyze situation with knew sight. I remember one scene when she show some remorse and have a though about mistakes she made. In scene after bar if you chose to go with her. But we dont know what exact mistakes, maybe it all about her bad situation now or relations with Zane and a tape like conclusion. So when confrontation scene happened what we see, that "they dont laugh at him". Without her apology or some remorse on incident, scene only show us that MC missunderstand and he blame himself. So you tell me that she acted 100% right should have no remorse at all? She wouldn't change a thing so misunderstanding not happened? Cuz all MC could change its just dont confess at all. His anger and misbehave afterwards is understandible thing. If you see her remorse in that scene ot some other tap me to it. I apologise to you and all others for my wrong opinion on the matter.

 

[G27111]

Look, in game we not see that she sorry that situation happened like it did. That maybe she should say her friends that she go to her or his house to continue they talk or something like that. That she acted differently if she knew to what situation come. Cuz act like she did, i mean got districted by some joke is wrong in middle of confession from close friend. He is, not some nobody to her to act like that. She may dont realise at the time she half kid, but time goes she became adult and can analyze situation with knew sight. I remember one scene when she show some remorse and have a though about mistakes she made. In scene after bar if you chose to go with her. But we dont know what exact mistakes, maybe it all about her bad situation now or relations with Zane and a tape like conclusion. So when confrontation scene happened what we see, that "they dont laugh at him". Without her apology or some remorse on incident, scene only show us that MC missunderstand and he blame himself. So you tell me that she acted 100% right should have no remorse at all? She wouldn't change a thing so misunderstanding not happened? Cuz all MC could change its just dont confess at all. His anger and misbehave afterwards is understandible thing. If you see her remorse in that scene ot some other tap me to it. I apologise to you and all others for my wrong opinion on the matter.

you dont need to apologise if you end up thinking you're wrong. we all make mistakes, i can be petty when i feel like someone has done me wrong, with her i never felt like she was in the wrong. other games i have wanted to never see certain characters again after some situations so i understand that some can make you dislike them.

For me she has always been nice, her reaction when she sees he is back shows she genuinely cares, she comes to him the next day and spends the day with him talking about past and present, when he phones her after he argues with his mum she drops what she is doing leaves college and comes to see him, takes him to her apartment and lets him stay with her.. she is a good friend imo, she also shows that she cares for him and likes him more than just a friend. for me that means way more than if she says sorry about a incident when she was younger. when we are young we do things differently, she tried to go see him after it happened, wrote to him, it just never got resolved. i dont really hold grudges for that, but thats just me personally.

we all value different things in people, i value how someone acts and treats us 99% of the time , if someone in action shows they care but makes one minor mistake and doesnt apologise, its not really going to affect me, if you know the person well enough you know if they are malicious.. for me she is not a malicious person

 

[CrioniC.Syn]

Look, in game we not see that she sorry that situation happened like it did. That maybe she should say her friends that she go to her or his house to continue they talk or something like that. That she acted differently if she knew to what situation come. Cuz act like she did, i mean got districted by some joke is wrong in middle of confession from close friend. He is, not some nobody to her to act like that. She may dont realise at the time she half kid, but time goes she became adult and can analyze situation with knew sight. I remember one scene when she show some remorse and have a though about mistakes she made. In scene after bar if you chose to go with her. But we dont know what exact mistakes, maybe it all about her bad situation now or relations with Zane and a tape like conclusion. So when confrontation scene happened what we see, that "they dont laugh at him". Without her apology or some remorse on incident, scene only show us that MC missunderstand and he blame himself. So you tell me that she acted 100% right should have no remorse at all? She wouldn't change a thing so misunderstanding not happened? Cuz all MC could change its just dont confess at all. His anger and misbehave afterwards is understandible thing. If you see her remorse in that scene ot some other tap me to it. I apologise to you and all others for my wrong opinion on the matter.

Sigh... I guess I have to show you why MC is really mad since you keep saying the same shit:

m = Emily
mc = MC
et = Ethan

This happened after the confession:

m "You are back early."
m "Isn't Erynn home?"
mc "..."
m "Hey... What's wrong honey?"
mc "Nothing."
m "Hey come here. What happened? And don't say nothing again."
mc "..."
m "Weren't you going to celebrate your birthday with Erynn?"
mc "She was there with her friends."
m "And?"
mc "They were laughing at me."
m "Why were they laughing at you?"
mc "..."
m "Erynn would never laugh at you. Are you sure you didn't misunderstand?"
mc "I saw them laughing and looking at me."
m "Just go back and talk to Erynn. She can probably explain that it was nothing."
mc "..."
m "What? Since when are you shy?"
mc "I'm not!"
m "Well then go and talk to her."

He goes back but before he meets Erynn, he ran into Ethan:

et "What are you doing here again?"
mc "I'm..."
et "Just go away already."
mc "But today is my..."
et "But but but... Are you stupid?"
et "Erynn hates you! Don't you get it?"
et "She doesn't want to play with little idiots like you."
et "You are just annoying and ruin everything..."
mc "..."
mc "I..."
et "LEAVE!"

Because the laughing situation was never cleared up, he still believes it to be true at that point, but the nail in the coffin is Ethan lying about Erynn saying she hates MC. That's what made him so mad and not wanting to talk to Erynn. Erynn didn't even know this happened.

 

[davildante]

But she already not apologized? Want a shower of rose petals and a speaker? Sometimes, despite my best efforts, I don't understand people.

For me these waters are already at sea. Both were wrong, she erred in not going after the MC since she cared so much, MC erred by not reading a simple letter. Damn, I know he was upset, and I thought she had no feelings for him. But for God's sake, wasn't he curious what a person who supposedly had no feelings for him wanted to send so many letters?

And even if she hadn't apologized, if she didn't have feelings for him. What the fuck is you who knows that a girl who was your friend, that you loved, your neighbor, daughter of a person like Melissa, who is suffering blackmail and physical and mental loss, she would not help? Why didn't she apologize to you for coming after you? or because ne feels the same thing as you? So you'd let her be raped, assaulted, killed... So?

Empathy sends a memory.

1. No she is not she only tell mc that he misunderstand that all. She clean in that situation.
2. Agree both are to blame why author show us in what to be critical for there relations scene hat he the one to blame? There was not 1 line about how she sorry that he got confused or that if she could change it she would.
3. What to do with that chose in game its desition of every player for himself. After what i alredy wright here on a matter i just decide if she miss perfect that newer do wrong she could take care of herself wichout MC.

 

[davildante]

you dont need to apologise if you end up thinking you're wrong. we all make mistakes, i can be petty when i feel like someone has done me wrong, with her i never felt like she was in the wrong. other games i have wanted to never see certain characters again after some situations so i understand that some can make you dislike them.

For me she has always been nice, her reaction when she sees he is back shows she genuinely cares, she comes to him the next day and spends the day with him talking about past and present, when he phones her after he argues with his mum she drops what she is doing leaves college and comes to see him, takes him to her apartment and lets him stay with her.. she is a good friend imo, she also shows that she cares for him and likes him more than just a friend. for me that means way more than if she says sorry about a incident when she was younger. when we are young we do things differently, she tried to go see him after it happened, wrote to him, it just never got resolved. i dont really hold grudges for that, but thats just me personally.

we all value different things in people, i value how someone acts and treats us 99% of the time , if someone in action shows they care but makes one minor mistake and doesnt apologise, its not really going to affect me, if you know the person well enough you know if they are malicious.. for me she is not a malicious person

In game we got plenty nice atention from all different girls so she dont special in that case. I hear your opinion, you and many other feel that she should fell remourse because she care for him and that mattered more. Ok, than why author make MC only one to blame himself? He misunderstand and its his fault that it? Its his fault, cuz all else people on the planet will not misunderstud on his place? I dont see shared fault for that situation on screen. You tell me your opinion and that in your head plot work, ok like you say'd before people are have different taste. In my head it dont, and i explain why. Guys if you tap me on scene with her remource or apology for her part in situation so that your words and my thoughts about both were wrong match what is in game. I say'd apology and case close. Right now i see only: blame all on him and miss perfect. That dont give player desire to help this perfect person....

 

[davildante]

Sigh... I guess I have to show you why MC is really mad since you keep saying the same shit:

m = Emily
mc = MC
et = Ethan

This happened after the confession:

m "You are back early."
m "Isn't Erynn home?"
mc "..."
m "Hey... What's wrong honey?"
mc "Nothing."
m "Hey come here. What happened? And don't say nothing again."
mc "..."
m "Weren't you going to celebrate your birthday with Erynn?"
mc "She was there with her friends."
m "And?"
mc "They were laughing at me."
m "Why were they laughing at you?"
mc "..."
m "Erynn would never laugh at you. Are you sure you didn't misunderstand?"
mc "I saw them laughing and looking at me."
m "Just go back and talk to Erynn. She can probably explain that it was nothing."
mc "..."
m "What? Since when are you shy?"
mc "I'm not!"
m "Well then go and talk to her."

He goes back but before he meets Erynn, he ran into Ethan:

et "What are you doing here again?"
mc "I'm..."
et "Just go away already."
mc "But today is my..."
et "But but but... Are you stupid?"
et "Erynn hates you! Don't you get it?"
et "She doesn't want to play with little idiots like you."
et "You are just annoying and ruin everything..."
mc "..."
mc "I..."
et "LEAVE!"

Because the laughing situation was never cleared up, he still believes it to be true at that point, but the nail in the coffin is Ethan lying about Erynn saying she hates MC. That's what made him so mad and not wanting to talk to Erynn. Erynn didn't even know this happened.

And why mc actualy bellive Ethan? Not cuz he confessed before, see girl he con laugh with her friend, think thay laugh at him and run away emberessed? That scene was just one more coin in misunderstanding that already happened. I try to tell that they both f**k up each in his own way. But all fault to situation go to MC shoulders and miss perfect dont need to change enithing, dont need to feel bad on her part. That what game show us right now.

 

[JC07]

Guys, this discourse will not take you anywhere. It is clear that we have different preferences.

I am particularly sad that I have to make several different moves to see the story of each girl. I like Lexi, but I also like Erynn. And so the reference Yen and Triss. Unfortunately for me, I will have to do several plays. One with Lexi/Erynn (see what to give) and Erynn Solo. From my point of view, it is clear that Erynn is the most important person here, except MC. I don't believe or see her as a villain, I believe she made a mistake, but if you make a minimum of right choices with her. That is, by helping someone in this, she will show how sorry she is for her choices and how much she cares about MC. But you are free to have different opinions, the problem is that this is my opinion and will only change, or not, only when the story progresses more. So of those who disagree. We simple mortals do not have this power to make other mortals change formed opinions.

Let's take it for a tie, before having to give work to the moderators.

 

[G27111]

In game we got plenty nice atention from all different girls so she dont special in that case. I hear your opinion, you and many other feel that she should fell remourse because she care for him and that mattered more. Ok, than why author make MC only one to blame himself? He misunderstand and its his fault that it? Its his fault, cuz all else people on the planet will not misunderstud on his place? I dont see shared fault for that situation on screen. You tell me your opinion and that in your head plot work, ok like you say'd before people are have different taste. In my head it dont, and i explain why. Guys if you tap me on scene with her remource or apology for her part in situation so that your words and my thoughts about both were wrong match what is in game. I say'd apology and case close. Right now i see only: blame all on him and miss perfect. That dont give player desire to help this perfect person....

ask yourself this, In this very situation, you confess you like your best friend.. you give her a flower.. she takes it and goes to her friend. they giggle and you feel its about you.. you then come back and that dick stops you and says some mean things, you go home and go to your room... would you move to another place?
would you not speak to this girl again after that? its your best friend who you have grown up with, you would know her better than most people. you would know deep down if that person would really react like that.. so for me, if i knew all of this i would atleast speak to her again, i wouldnt move away..

so realistically if you do what the mc did, you are actually in the wrong tbh, you trusted the words of your enemy instead of talking to her, to think she would just laugh at you and thats it.. i dont even think the "author" puts all the blame on the mc but the more i think about it i think i do..

now think of it the other way around, say she came to you and you laughed with your friends about something else, and you never see her again and she ran away to another place. would it be your fault? put yourself in the others shoes.

If i misunderstand something, take it as a fact and dont speak to that person for a long long time then tbh thats on me, i definitely wouldnt expect a apology. if that person then sent me letters to talk to me and i didnt read them, i threw them out... thats on me, not them.

if you cant understand this then thats cool, we are different people with different outlooks and morals. i mentioned how she treated him because to me that matters, i dont care how everyone else treats me too, we are talking about her.