Is it me or there hasn't been any good quality porn games in the past six months if not a whole year?

Clancy

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I've been following f95zone since 2017. The best years on this site was on 2017 & 2018 in my opinion. We had a bunch of quality games which were the rise of Summertime Saga, Milfy City & Lily of the Valley.

As of late, I feel like the quality of games have gone way downhill in my opinion. Everything ranging from the past six months to the past year were downright terrible for adult games. Legend of Krystal Rebirth? Gone. Kingdom of Deception? Barely active anymore. Cloud Meadow? Don't even want to talk about it. It's sad to see developers I used to follow not be active anymore. Like what's happening here?

Rarely if we're lucky enough we get to see a few exceptions. Game likes Being a Dik, Flirty F and even a translated Kagura game gives a smile to my face. But as of 2020, we've been bombarded with nothing but shitty English translated RPG NTR games. Though I do not mind NTR games, most of them are barely translated at all making it unbearable to play. It's sad to see we're in the drought like this. We need more games soon.
 

Paz

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I feel inclined to say "It's you", and the effect of wearing rose-tinted glasses. Those games you mention as staples of quality all suffer from various issues and if they were to be introduced today they would struggle to gather the support they currently have.

In no way, shape or form we get less games overall, and less quality games for that matter. If anything we get more games (which, granted, can make it harder to weed out for good games) but there are new quality game being created.

Also, it all depends on how one defines quality. Polishing? Amount of content? Ticking all of one's kink boxes? For each of those aspects though you will find there are good games out there, but they need to work harder to get a piece of the limited support pie so eventually some will wither and die out.

And saying that "...as of 2020, we've been bombarded with nothing but shitty English translated RPG NTR games." is just plain wrong and dismissive in my view.
 

Zachy

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To put it in simple, we aren't getting less "good quality games", we are getting more "bad quality games" and that's what makes it harder to find a nice game. Proportion is the only thing that changed.

There's a lot of new devs joining the scene, and most of them only think about desperately getting money on their Patreon without delivering a polished/extensive product. Maybe that's why you notice a "downhill" in overall game quality.
 

baneini

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The good devs with ability cashes in on the market early. Then patreon fucked everything up for everyone and they went "guess I'll stick to my day job"
People getting into porn games now are the devs with slow brains.
 

woody554

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it seems to me most games now target niche audiences like ntr and transformation (far more than the 5-10% audience they have), and if you're not on those trains a lot of stuff is out of the question already. the only popular big but divisive theme now seems to be fem protag, and if you don't like role-playing getting raped left and right there's very little available.

there are interesting v0.1 games outside of that block, but 90% of those you'll never see again. so hardly worth the click until 0.5 and upwards.

for some reason a lot of the themes for RPGM games seem much better thought-out, but I'm not playing 1980s games in 2020.
 
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Paz

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The good devs with ability cashes in on the market early. Then patreon fucked everything up for everyone and they went "guess I'll stick to my day job"
People getting into porn games now are the devs with slow brains.
This feels wrong on so many levels.
When Patreon first started, the whole shebang of "supporting erotic creators on a monthly basis" was a way nicher thing to go after than now.
I'd argue that it was harder to attract "good devs" (whatever that means) to pivot in this market, as sustainable income was unproven. If anything, the entry barrier is higher now than it was.

Also, who is this "everyone" that Patreon fucked out of their income and back into their day jobs? I'm not talking about creators that didn't get enough support and had to drop it, I'm talking about ones that did but Patreon demolished their hopes and dreams.

As for new creators being "devs with slow brains", I did a quick research for you and find examples to the contrary I suppose.
Braindrop: Started Jan 2020 - Currently at 18k/month
Radiant: Started April 2020 - Currently at 6k/month
Adeptus: Started June 2020 - Currently at ~4k/month
Heat: Started May 2020 - Currently at 11k/month

Yes, I can see how it was a financially unsound choice for all of them (and more that I didn't list).
 

baneini

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As for new creators being "devs with slow brains", I did a quick research for you and find examples to the contrary I suppose.
Braindrop: Started Jan 2020 - Currently at 18k/month
Radiant: Started April 2020 - Currently at 6k/month
Adeptus: Started June 2020 - Currently at ~4k/month
Heat: Started May 2020 - Currently at 11k/month

Yes, I can see how it was a financially unsound choice for all of them (and more that I didn't list).
You don't see what you prevent, but you can see the new content rate of established games drop drastically, what do you expect happens when teams lose members because theres less money around or devs can't make a commitment because of patreon uncertainty.
Now I wouldn't call any of the games you listed to be noteworthy, heat: some furry pandering game, radiant/braindrop: VN where you fuck a harem of revolting daz models just like a 100 other games, adeptus: a simple 2d game with 5 mins of content. Those are good examples of what OP is talking about, aka garbage.
 

Paz

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Now I wouldn't call any of the games you listed to be noteworthy, heat: some furry pandering game, radiant/braindrop: VN where you fuck a harem of revolting daz models just like a 100 other games, adeptus: a simple 2d game with 5 mins of content. Those are good examples of what OP is talking about, aka garbage.
They might be bad to you, or to the OP, or to me for that matter, but not to their thousands of supporters. Just because you or I are not interested in their themes or even actively dislike them, that doesn't make them objectively bad games.

Take, for example, Bastard Girls. I like the models, I really want to like the game, I try to play it from time to time, but it is a badly created game.
Full of bugs, little direction, UI that makes you wanna poke your eyes out and absolutely messy mechanics with no coherence. Those above have no evident objective shortcomings, personal preferences aside.
 

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We, the players, are also at 'fault' at this.

The more games you play the more you expect from the next game you play.
A game that would appear great 2-3 years ago might be seen as 'trash' today. Many of the big games before would not work today.
 

woody554

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We, the players, are also at 'fault' at this.

The more games you play the more you expect from the next game you play.
A game that would appear great 2-3 years ago might be seen as 'trash' today. Many of the big games before would not work today.
I may be alone in this, but I don't really care much about the production quality of games. it's nice to have, but I won't even look at games that don't fit my kinks. and the worst engrish doesn't stop me from checking out a game that does fit my kinks. I just want to read a story from that world, and I don't even care if it's essentially the same story. because that's the story I like. I rarely like the other 'original stories' people think are hot shit. boy meets girl is a fine story, that's why we've been retelling it for thousands of years because it works.
 

HopesGaming

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I may be alone in this, but I don't really care much about the production quality of games. it's nice to have, but I won't even look at games that don't fit my kinks. and the worst engrish doesn't stop me from checking out a game that does fit my kinks. I just want to read a story from that world, and I don't even care if it's essentially the same story. because that's the story I like. I rarely like the other 'original stories' people think are hot shit. boy meets girl is a fine story, that's why we've been retelling it for thousands of years because it works.
You may not be alone. But the failed games shows that you are not in the majority either. And to be frank, as a dev, you want to have a game that aims towards the many and not the few that stray away from the many. Without support, many devs will give up before the second release.
Of course, if your kink is something uncommon like necrophilia, bestiality, and other kinds of kinks uncommon - it can still be a success as people with a specific kink are willing to pay extra for it to continue.
But in general, there is a reason why 'original stories' tend to be hot shit. There is a reason why boy meets girl copy paste ends up being abandoned.
People want new stuff. Just human nature.

To clarify, I am actually in the - I don't mind cliché - camp. I am easily entertained. Both in 'normal' stories and in 'adult' stories.
All I write is simple what I've observed and objectively.
 

forzato

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There are less successful consistent releases but a few interesting examples in the last year. I'm personally not a fan of the increase in development time this year because it causes burn out and abandonment in many cases as well as a much slower following to be built up. If you are DrPinkCake or PhillyGames you can update 2-4 times a year because you've already gained the traffic and people expect quality releases. Here are a few of my picks that are doing great this year:

Halfway House Ep 7
Intertwined Ep 5
Unleashed Ep 5
Our Red String Ep 5
Leap of Faith Ep 4
College Kings Ep 2
AOA Academy Ep 1

In my opinion these releases have set a much higher bar compared to 2017-18. There's only a few exceptions that are comparable and one of those developers hasn't raised their quality despite a huge patreon although I still respect and enjoy them because they have stayed mostly consistent to monthly releases. I'm not going to name them but many can work out who I'm talking about.

Summary: Bigger devs should spend more time and effort on projects and smaller devs should focus on consistency.
 

tGolden

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I feel like bad game is subject to opinion like your idea of a bad game and my idea could be different but I feel like the reason why it feels like there are more bad games is just because more people are making games. now that is a double edge sword right there cause everyone has different skill levels and ideas on how a game should be made, what it includes and much more.
 
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But as of 2020, we've been bombarded with nothing but shitty English translated RPG NTR games.
New games in the last 180 days: 2585 games.
New games done with RPGM in the last 180 days: 387 games.
New games with the "NTR" tag in the last 180 days: 180 games.
New games with the "NTR" tag done with RPGM in the last 180 days: 41 games.

Not only the answer is "It's you", if you really felt "bombarded" by those 387/180/41 games in these last 6 months then A) you have big perception problems and/or B) you really suck at searching.
 
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zoneitorboneit

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There are a handfull of great games that you haven't listed, but it all comes down to personal opinion. What is great for some wouldn't be great for you
If I were to name a few
Handyman
Silicone Lust
My Lust Wish
Last Hope
Dessert Bakery
and a new version of warlock of lust should be coming out any day now
 

Pretentious Goblin

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I'm just gonna drop a recommendation for InSight of you, if trainer-style corruption games are your bag. Been on F95 since February. It's one of those games that I scrolled right past because of the title and (presumably) Honey Select, but holy crap is it good.
 

kristijanEX

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Maybe expand your horizons ?
I do both 2d and 3d, realistic models, Honey Select models, anime models..etc.
The only things I don't like are NTR/gay/furry, even though that eliminates a lot of games, I don't really lack choice of games.
In particular because, I don't get the hate for HS models, maybe you don't like the models, I do, but the sex scenes are so hot, much better than most realistic models, there's rubbing, clothes stuff, kissing, fellatio, massage, surprise, all kinds of positions in any rotation, any situation, any place..etc.

I might have got a bit of course, but my perception is that if you're only looking at big budget looking 3d or 2d games, your balls will be aching till the next update and even then the update might not be long enough to jerk it off properly, I've been there, there are some games that tease you so much or you're waiting for the perfect scene to jerk it, I've had a couple of times were I was jerking it off for 6 hrs (not non stop, but still), and then the afterglow isn't even that good anymore because you realize that you're a lazy bastard because you fapped your whole night away.
 

bboybarry

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I'm a new member so I'm not sure if my opinion counts but from what I noticed on this site is that there are some goods game, niche but good games for certain audiences, new ambitious games(though many lack substance), and just pure horrible games.
But the majority of games(newer games) are just copies of each other/ a certain archetype. For example a lot of the female protagonist games can be simplified into two types a rape/slut sim or a lesbian game. A lot of the male protagonist games fall into overused archetypes also. Even some of the niche games like ntr and femdom start to blend together. I don't think they stopped making good porn games, rather the good ones are being drowned out by worse games many of which are their clones. I suppose good games are diamonds in the rough now as opposed to common like they once were.