Is there a reason the darkest themes are made on the RPGM engine?

Kadajko

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I noticed that the darkest stories with themes such as hardcore NTR, slavery, rape, torture, gore etc. are almost exclusively made on the RPGM engine. Why is that?
 

Nadekai

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Out of 6225 only 1691 games by your criteria are made in RPGM. Which is around 27%. However, interestingly, 2064 games by your criteria are made in Ren'Py, which is around 33% Out of 2064 Ren'Py games, 699 are abandoned compared to 200 abandoned made in RPGM.

EngineMadeAbandoned
Total6229 (100%)1332 (21.38%)
RPGM1692 (27.16%)200 (11.82%)
Ren'Py2065 (33.15%)699 (33.85%)
Unity751 (12%)113 (15.05%)

So, what do you get? That you're absolutely wrong!
 
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Kadajko

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Out of 6225 only 1691 games by your criteria are made in RPGM. Which is around 27%. However, interestingly, 2064 games by your criteria are made in Ren'Py, which is around 33% Out of 2064 Ren'Py games, 699 are abandoned compared to 200 abandoned made in RPGM.

EngineMadeAbandoned
Total6229 (100%)1332 (21.38%)
RPGM1692 (27.16%)200 (11.82%)
Ren'Py2065 (33.15%)699 (33.85%)
Unity751 (12%)113 (15.05%)

So, what do you get? That you're absolutely wrong!
Thx, I didn't think about documented statistics, was just personal experience from seeing games.
 

Xeline

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I think its because RPGM is pretty easy engine to work with and tool the kind of story you want to tell.
 

Death Panda

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Out of 6225 only 1691 games by your criteria are made in RPGM. Which is around 27%. However, interestingly, 2064 games by your criteria are made in Ren'Py, which is around 33% Out of 2064 Ren'Py games, 699 are abandoned compared to 200 abandoned made in RPGM.
I ran the numbers.
EngineMade"Dark"
Total154746229 (40.25%)
RPGM27831692 (60.80%)
Ren'Py58002065 (35.60%)
Unity2636751 (28.49%)

Turns out RPGmaker games are significantly more likely to be dark using whatever criteria you were using.
 

Nadekai

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I ran the numbers.
EngineMade"Dark"
Total154746229 (40.25%)
RPGM27831692 (60.80%)
Ren'Py58002065 (35.60%)
Unity2636751 (28.49%)

Turns out RPGmaker games are significantly more likely to be dark using whatever criteria you were using.
You run the numbers out of total games, I run the numbers from "Dark" genre, he wasn't asking what % of total games is, he was asking what % of Dark games is RPGM.

Esentially what you've proven is that most games in RPGM are Dark, not that most Dark games are made in RPGM, smh.

Read the thread first please.
 

Kadajko

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It's probably just because RPGM is easily accessible, with not many learning curves to overcome.
I am curious why that is relevant? Is it because dark games are not as popular so people who make dark games don't want to invest a lot of resources and time into a niche audience?
 

Nadekai

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I am curious why that is relevant? Is it because dark games are not as popular so people who make dark games don't want to invest a lot of resources and time into a niche audience?
Spread between Ren'Py and RPGM is around even when it comes to Dark games, so I wouldn't say it's anything unusual, it's that ren'py games are more oftan abandoned than RPGM.
 
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Death Panda

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I am curious why that is relevant? Is it because dark games are not as popular so people who make dark games don't want to invest a lot of resources and time into a niche audience?
It's not relevant. Western developers don't make their games too dark because they fear censorship from crowdfunding platforms. Japanese developers do not have that problem. Japanese developers also tend to prefer RPGmaker, which is why you see all the darkest themes on RPGmaker.
 
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Personally im working on RPGmv and currently working on fleshing out my alpha i plan on releasing for feedback.. i chose it after looking at ren'py, and gadot, AND prototyping in Twine, i chose it becuase its the easiest to use except maybe twine. But it has built in sound and an easy way to convert for phone. i do all my sus gaming on phone.