VN Ren'Py Completed Jeijei's Harem - Calm Before the Storm [v1.02] [JeijeiFin Games]

[YogSothoth1982]

No (that's ancient history), but I'm sure you'll find something else to dislike about the game anyway. ;D

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Personally, Emma's past with her Math teacher worries me less than her now-defunct job as a porn actress. Certainly the fact that he was her Sugar Daddy isn't something that excites me, and that they had sex excites me even less (if they had stuck to handjobs and blowjobs I would find it less problematic). Anyway, my biggest problem with this is that she basically had sex and posibly lost her virginity for money (a previou boyfriend is a better option fot this). In any case, I will continue with her, but not with great enthusiasm. It's possible that Emma's story was like this before, but it never got to this point.

What I like most about the Math teacher Sugar Daddy relationship with Emma is that it doesn't exist in the present and that it couldn't last long.

 

[sabadongelov]

Played it. Was nice. But one thing, I don't get. The game contain a number of taboo fantasies played out through ingame roleplaying, namely rape, male domination, incest and serious age play. What's the point of that? For people, like myself, who find these taboo fantasies hot, the fact that it's put in the game in the form of roleplay makes it way less hot than it would have been if the MC could choose to do those things "for real".

I mean, I fully understand why people IRL roleplay such stuff, since doing it for real is both immoral and criminal. But a game is already pretend, there is no one getting hurt, so why not act out the fantasy ingame instead of making pretend inception? I'm pretty sure that the large majority of people who enjoy those kind of fantasies would enjoy that more than ingame roleplaying.

EDIT: Added incest, because that's also roleplayed...

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

Played it. Was nice. But one thing, I don't get. The game contain a number of taboo fantasies played out through ingame roleplaying, namely rape, male domination and serious age play. What's the point of that? For people, like myself, who find these taboo fantasies hot, the fact that it's put in the game in the form of roleplay makes it way less hot than it would have been if the MC could choose to do those things "for real".

I mean, I fully understand why people IRL roleplay such stuff, since doing it for real is both immoral and criminal. But a game is already pretend, there is no one getting hurt, so why not act out the fantasy ingame instead of making pretend inception? I'm pretty sure that the large majority of people who enjoy those kind of fantasies would enjoy that more than ingame roleplaying.

Those roleplays don't change the tone of the game. Those acts outside a consensual roleplay environment do. Go play a rape game if you want rape.

 

[sabadongelov]

Those roleplays don't change the tone of the game. Those acts outside a consensual roleplay environment do. Go play a rape game if you want rape.

Why have them then? Are you into fantasies about fantasies about rape/mdom/ageplay?

 

[sabadongelov]

Also, shouldn't the male domination tag be removed? There is no rape tag, no ageplay tag and no incest tag, as it is just roleplaying in the game. The male domination is the same, it's the female LI telling the male MC what to do in a roleplaying session.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

Why have them then? Are you into fantasies about fantasies about rape/mdom/ageplay?

I guess because the Dev wants to make the game like that, and for now you're the only one who is offended by that fact.

 

[sabadongelov]

I guess because the Dev wants to make the game like that, and for now you're the only one who is offended by that fact.

Why so defensive?

I guess from your reply and the lack of reply from Mommybuttslutt that neither of you actually are into roleplaying mdom, rape, incest and serious age play in game and that you just don't want the dev to introduce such fantasies/fetishes as "real" in the game, as opposed to roleplayed*.

Then the question remains, why include roleplaying these fantasies/fetishes rather than just have ordinary vanilla sex? Who is that supposed to speak to? Does the dev think that these roleplays will entice people who like such fantasies/fetishes, whithout angering Patreon? While I think it might satisfy Patreon, I don't think it will satisfy the people who like such fantasies/fetishes, but anyone who disagrees with me can of course voice that disagreement.

* Who's to say that an introduction of such actions would be mandatory? So far, the game has quite a number of moral choices already, so I'd guess any such inclusions would likely also come in the form of a choice.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

Why so defensive?

I guess from your reply and the lack of reply from Mommybuttslutt that neither of you actually are into roleplaying mdom, rape, incest and serious age play in game and that you just don't want the dev to introduce such fantasies/fetishes as "real" in the game, as opposed to roleplayed*.

Then the question remains, why include roleplaying these fantasies/fetishes rather than just have ordinary vanilla sex? Who is that supposed to speak to? Does the dev think that these roleplays will entice people who like such fantasies/fetishes, whithout angering Patreon? While I think it might satisfy Patreon, I don't think it will satisfy the people who like such fantasies/fetishes, but anyone who disagrees with me can of course voice that disagreement.

* Who's to say that an introduction of such actions would be mandatory? So far, the game has quite a number of moral choices already, so I'd guess any such inclusions would likely also come in the form of a choice.

I don't know where you get the idea that the response is defensive. I have simply indicated that it's most likely that everything is roleplay because the Dev wanted it that way and no one has ben offended for it until now, or at least no one has seemed to care.

In my case I don't like maledom, nor rape (nor femdom, nor BDSM, nor...). Actually I don't care how they are included in the game, if a LI has as her fetish that she likes to have sex as if she were being raped, then I'm going to move on from establishing a relationship with her, the same with maledom. So I'm not really going to be interested in those LIs anyway. In any case, I have a bit of a fetish for choosing not to do rapes (when they're "real" rapes, not part of a role-playing game), so I tend to play games with a lot of rapes to avoid doing them.

Regarding incest and age play, I actually wouldn't have a problem with it being included without actually being a role-playing game, but I don't find it necessary either, at least not in Emma's character.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

Why so defensive?

I guess from your reply and the lack of reply from Mommybuttslutt that neither of you actually are into roleplaying mdom, rape, incest and serious age play in game and that you just don't want the dev to introduce such fantasies/fetishes as "real" in the game, as opposed to roleplayed*.

Then the question remains, why include roleplaying these fantasies/fetishes rather than just have ordinary vanilla sex? Who is that supposed to speak to? Does the dev think that these roleplays will entice people who like such fantasies/fetishes, whithout angering Patreon? While I think it might satisfy Patreon, I don't think it will satisfy the people who like such fantasies/fetishes, but anyone who disagrees with me can of course voice that disagreement.

* Who's to say that an introduction of such actions would be mandatory? So far, the game has quite a number of moral choices already, so I'd guess any such inclusions would likely also come in the form of a choice.

No, I just don't feel the need to justify myself to weirdos asking stupid questions over the internet. People can enjoy more extreme kinks while still appreciating the more wholesome and romantic vibe of this type of game that these kinks outside of a consensual roleplay environment would contradict. If you think we're being defensive then you must assume that you're being offensive, in which case. Why so offensive?

 

[sabadongelov]

I don't know where you get the idea that the response is defensive. I have simply indicated that it's most likely that everything is roleplay because the Dev wanted it that way and no one has ben offended for it until now, or at least no one has seemed to care.

Yeah, I've seen you proclaim that you don't like this and that in numerous threads on this site. Were you offended by all those games? If not, I think you know what I mean when I say you come across as defensive when you reduce my critique to me being offended. It's belittling.

In my case I don't like maledom, nor rape (nor femdom, nor BDSM, nor...). Actually I don't care how they are included in the game, if a LI has as her fetish that she likes to have sex as if she were being raped, then I'm going to move on from establishing a relationship with her, the same with maledom. So I'm not really going to be interested in those LIs anyway. In any case, I have a bit of a fetish for choosing not to do rapes (when they're "real" rapes, not part of a role-playing game), so I tend to play games with a lot of rapes to avoid doing them.

Well then you obviously are not the target audience for these in game roleplays...

No, I just don't feel the need to justify myself to weirdos asking stupid questions over the internet.

People can enjoy more extreme kinks while still appreciating the more wholesome and romantic vibe of this type of game that these kinks outside of a consensual roleplay environment would contradict.

And that is what I'm questioning. I don't think people who enjoy such fantasies/fetishes find ingame roleplaying scenarios particularly satisfying.

If you think we're being defensive then you must assume that you're being offensive, in which case. Why so offensive?

No, that's not how the term works. Someone doesn't have to have be offensive, for someone else to be defensive. Also, I never said anything about you being defensive, even though I did sense some hostility from your first post. Now however, you definitely have surpassed Blaskyaus passive agressiveness with your own very much more direct aggressiveness.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

And that is what I'm questioning. I don't think people who enjoy such fantasies/fetishes find ingame roleplaying scenarios particularly satisfying.

Just because I like those fetishes doesn't mean I don't like wholesome romantic harems. In fact if I had to choose between the 2 I'll go for the wholesome, but I still like the more extreme kinks so a game that doesn't make me choose between the two is a positive to me.

No, that's not how the term works. Someone doesn't have to have be offensive, for someone else to be defensive.

You're assuming I'm being defensive when I'm just exasperated over dumb questions. I have nothing to be on the defense about, I just don't see the point in being polite when your whole purpose here seems to be to stir shit.

Now however, you definitely have surpassed Blaskyaus passive agressiveness with your own very much more direct aggressiveness.

Yes, thank you for noticing.

 

[sabadongelov]

Just because I like those fetishes doesn't mean I don't like wholesome romantic harems. In fact if I had to choose between the 2 I'll go for the wholesome, but I still like the more extreme kinks so a game that doesn't make me choose between the two is a positive to me.

You should have lead with this reasoning... That proves that there is at least some demography for the story design choices made in this game. Personally I still can't understand it, but each to his own.

As a sidenote, to me harem and wholesome is an oxymoron in the same way as rape and wholesome. I think you can find about as many women who enjoy being in a harem for real as you can find women who enjoy being raped for real...

You're assuming I'm being defensive when I'm just exasperated over dumb questions. I have nothing to be on the defense about, I just don't see the point in being polite when your whole purpose here seems to be to stir shit.

Is it better to be an abrasive asshole because someone asked a "dumb" question than to be an abrasive asshole because you feel threatened?

Also, why would you assume that's my purpose?

 

[YogSothoth1982]

Yeah, I've seen you proclaim that you don't like this and that in numerous threads on this site. Were you offended by all those games? If not, I think you know what I mean when I say you come across as defensive when you reduce my critique to me being offended. It's belittling.

Maybe I used the word wrong, possibly it would be better to have said that you are the only one who has commented on it, or who cared enough to point it out (at least for now). In any case, I only used the word because it seemed to me from your comment that you were really bothered by the fact that what is actually a role-playing game was labeled as maledom, but maybe saying that you were offended by it is too much, would annoying have been better?

Well then you obviously are not the target audience for these in game roleplays...

Yes I think you are right. In any case, what I want to say is that in reality the change from role-playing games to them being "real" would affect me little in terms of which LIs interest me or not. In any case, surely the tone of the game could change, so I think it all depends on the type of game the Dev wants to make, and I don't think that, for example, rapes are among the things that fit with this specific game. But possibly maledom does.

 

[johnmnf692]

This game suffers pretty severely from tonal whiplash, if you want to write characters suffering from mental illness, don't just have them start spazzing out about being "Fucking crazy", and then trauma dumping on anyone within earshot. There's also no reason for Emma to have had a sugar daddy, why would you make a LI into a prostitute for a throwaway line about fucking her math teacher? There's no payoff, it's utterly pointless, it's just baggage for the sake of baggage.

It also makes literally no sense to force the player to lose or miss out on points for 1 girl or another, in a harem game.

 

[csum]

Just wondering who are the last two females as part of the future harem? Also is Annie going to be the 7th girlfriend?

 

[paxogre]

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[Mommysbuttslut]

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Jeijei's Harem v0.12 is now released! On day 12 the main story advances and the main character can actually die.

 

[GoblinLover01]

How much content with glasses girl?

 

[giqui]

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