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Darkblaze23

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The way I look at it, if Stoper doesn't make his August release window then what more do we need to know? Everyone is free to spend their money how they see fit, but at some point we just have to acknowledge the obvious. This game is dying before our eyes, and there are other great devs who deserve more support.
Perfectly said Ginger (y)(y)
 
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Jozef Minge

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The way I look at it, if Stoper doesn't make his August release window then what more do we need to know? Everyone is free to spend their money how they see fit, but at some point we just have to acknowledge the obvious. This game is dying before our eyes, and there are other great devs who deserve more support.
I am generally agree with you. But I want to ask who are these great ones? I like AWAM game (fantastic renders, good tension, childish story), but the dev is "....". I was his supporter, but this is a guy who speaks one and do another. I like Eva Kiss work (best games in terms of story and capabilities), I was her supporter in her first game GGGB. But obviously I am missing something....?
 
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Busted1201

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I am generally agree with you. But I want to ask who are these great ones? I like AWAM game (fantastic renders, good tension, childish story), but the dev is "....". I was his supporter, but this is a guy who speaks one and do another. I like Eva Kiss work (best games in terms of story and capabilities), I was her supporter in her first game GGGB. But obviously I am missing something....?
I recommend you" Babysitters"from T4bbo. The Dev became really aktiv beginning this year. Game is awesome with lot of paths. Regular base updates. Renders top notch. Story is great. He make regular pools for his patreon members. He also is transparent what he is doing including his game dev. Skills.
But how always, that's my personal opinion.
 
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Mamonetti

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I am generally agree with you. But I want to ask who are these great ones? I like AWAM game (fantastic renders, good tension, childish story), but the dev is "....". I was his supporter, but this is a guy who speaks one and do another. I like Eva Kiss work (best games in terms of story and capabilities), I was her supporter in her first game GGGB. But obviously I am missing something....?
In the line of AWAM, you also have Ms Denvers (still in an early stage but certainly promising) and more in the line of Babysitters (swinging/sharing/exhibitionism), you also have Exciting Games.

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boostedanimal

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I am generally agree with you. But I want to ask who are these great ones? I like AWAM game (fantastic renders, good tension, childish story), but the dev is "....". I was his supporter, but this is a guy who speaks one and do another. I like Eva Kiss work (best games in terms of story and capabilities), I was her supporter in her first game GGGB. But obviously I am missing something....?
"I was his supporter, but this is a guy who speaks one and do another"

and you are out here defending stoper? lmao, you are an actual clown
 

Obranyi

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Sep 16, 2019
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"I was his supporter, but this is a guy who speaks one and do another"

and you are out here defending stoper? lmao, you are an actual clown
He just want this game don't become abandoned and happy with 1 update per year, WOW, 1 update per year :ROFLMAO: And support girly Dev who ban supporters for questions about why updates become so rare and lack of communication.
 
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armion82

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I am generally agree with you. But I want to ask who are these great ones? I like AWAM game (fantastic renders, good tension, childish story), but the dev is "....". I was his supporter, but this is a guy who speaks one and do another. I like Eva Kiss work (best games in terms of story and capabilities), I was her supporter in her first game GGGB. But obviously I am missing something....?
Inner Growth,Lunars Chosen,Behind the Doom,Proud Father,Of Devotion and Despondence,My Dorm,Project Myriam to name a few.
 
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Jozef Minge

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Aug 28, 2017
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"I was his supporter, but this is a guy who speaks one and do another"

and you are out here defending stoper? lmao, you are an actual clown
Am I? Let me see where Stoper is promised to reach some level of income and he will upgrade his machine to speed up the tempo and never do that? Let me see where Stoper is cut the updates in seperate parts to speed up work and the result is opposite? Let me see where Stoper is forbidden to his patrons to share something here or elsewhere! L&P is just a liar, Stoper is disinterested! His focus is elsewhere, not in the game. And because I was supporter of two of them I can make the difference between them. Both of them are very good, L&P live from that, Stoper maybe do something else, which is his priority.
But the main difference is their claimes! L&P is act like he is the God of rendering and we all owe him! Stoper is just misses his own deadlines, broken some promises, maybe lazy, maybe something else. I don't count his money, but by about 1600 $ in Italy is not a luxury life! Below average is...
If you don't see the difference, then maybe I am the clown here!
 

OllisNews

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Jul 21, 2020
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I agree with you! I am a patron and I am fed up! On mails and questions you get no answer. Unfortunately, Patreon has not responded. In the meantime, I think that here is only cheating in the game! I will, if until 28.08. no update comes cancel! I do not let myself be fooled. fuck-off-go-away.gif
 

GingerSweetGirl

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Aug 23, 2020
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Am I? Let me see where Stoper is promised to reach some level of income and he will upgrade his machine to speed up the tempo and never do that? Let me see where Stoper is cut the updates in seperate parts to speed up work and the result is opposite? Let me see where Stoper is forbidden to his patrons to share something here or elsewhere! L&P is just a liar, Stoper is disinterested! His focus is elsewhere, not in the game. And because I was supporter of two of them I can make the difference between them. Both of them are very good, L&P live from that, Stoper maybe do something else, which is his priority.
But the main difference is their claimes! L&P is act like he is the God of rendering and we all owe him! Stoper is just misses his own deadlines, broken some promises, maybe lazy, maybe something else. I don't count his money, but by about 1600 $ in Italy is not a luxury life! Below average is...
If you don't see the difference, then maybe I am the clown here!
There are compelling arguments that L&P and Stoper are the same person.

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Edoks

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Oct 5, 2018
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Question: How many of you will skip this update? the more time passes, the more I wonder if I'm not going to ignore it and wait for the next one
 

Tennoujirex

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I don't count his money, but by about 1600 $ in Italy is not a luxury life! Below average is...
The only reason why this game does not reach it's full potential financially and is just stagnating with the monthly subscription amount hanging between 1500$-2000$ is cause of stoper.
There is no world in which a game of this quality with some kind of consistency when it comes to releases can't make alot of money.
Throughout the years stoper has lost confidence in so many people who won't touch the game again financially or have just completely abandoned it due to the constant back and forth mouse chase of delays that stoper plays with himself when it's release time and any potential new player interested also stay away looking at the release time thus further reducing potential funds.
So stoper has only himself to blame about it.
Give this game in the hands of a proper dev who would actually give it love and care while remaining completely punctual and disciplined about it and i don't see how he can't watch the cash flow for such a good quality game.
 
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