Others Jugs Bay - Love, Lust, Adventure [v0.8.4] [NeonHappi]

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Showmethegory

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Is this game playable on Steam deck? I can't find reviews that verify this, and there is little to no coverage gameplay wise on Hub or any other adult site.
 
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Showmethegory said:
Is this game playable on Steam deck? I can't find reviews that verify this, and there is little to no coverage gameplay wise on Hub or any other adult site.
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It's playable, most of the gameplay can be done with steam deck controls, although some text is small and mini-games need touch or mouse input.
 
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hacked

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Yeah it is different. You can't put a VN with Illusion assets or real-porn images up on Steam, cause the game doesn't own those assets. When you purchase assets on Daz-3D, you are explicitly purchasing a license to said content; and their user agreement explicitly spells out the permissibility of the user to both generate and market 2D renders from the 3D software and assets.

  • Terms of Use. Two-Dimensional Works. Subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement, User may (i) access, use, copy and modify the Content in the creation and presentation of two-dimensional animations and renderings, (ii) incorporate two-dimensional images (including two-dimensional images that simulate motion of three-dimensional objects) derived by User from the Content in User's other works, and (iii) publish, market, distribute, transfer, sell or sublicense User's two-dimensional animations, renderings and other works; provided that User may not in any case publish, market, distribute, transfer, sell or sublicense any renderings, animations, software applications, data or any other product from which any Content, or any part thereof, or any substantially similar version of the Content can be separately exported, extracted or de-compiled into any re-distributable form or format.
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Again, compare that to Virt-a-mate's user agreement.

5.3 License Restrictions

(b) You must not access or use for any commercial purposes any part of the Website or any services or Materials available through the Website.
(c) If you print, copy, modify, download, stream, or otherwise use or provide any other person with access to any part of the Website in breach of this agreement, your right to use the Website will stop immediately, and you must, at the Company’s option, return or destroy any copies of the Materials you have made. No interest in or to the Website or any content on the Website is transferred to you, and the Company reserves all rights not expressly granted. Any use of the Website not expressly permitted by this agreement is a breach of this agreement and may violate copyright, trademark, and other laws.

23. General
23.4 Waiver. If the Company fails to exercise or enforce any right or provision of this agreement, it will not constitute a waiver of that right or provision. Any waiver of any provision of this agreement will be effective only if in writing and signed by the relevant party.


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If you legitimately have a license separate from the bog standard normie one that everyone else would be limited to, you should say so and have it out and front. Hand-shakes and hearsay about 'blessings' isn't enough, when their own website has a pretty iron-clad and exhaustive end user agreement. Plus, it's not just Virt-a-mate itself, as it's a platform for community content. Are you using user generated content? How are the rights for that handled? Did they consent to having their community content used for commercial use by third parties? Does the Virt-a-mate team have the legal authority to do that (and if they do, that's pretty shit)?
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You got to 5.3 but apparently skipped 5.1 where it says "(excluding User Contributions set out in section 7 below)":


5. Intellectual Property Rights
5.1 Ownership. The Company owns and operates the Website. Unless otherwise indicated, all content, information, and other materials on the Website (excluding User Contributions, set out in section 7 below), including the visual interfaces, graphics, design, compilation, information, software, computer code (including source code or object code), services, text, pictures, information, data, sound files, other files, and the selection and arrangement of them (collectively, the “Materials”) are protected by relevant intellectual property and proprietary rights and laws. All Materials contained on the Website are the property of the Company or its subsidiaries or affiliated companies or third-party licensors.


So let's take a look at that section 7:


7.2 Ownership of User Contributions. You keep all ownership rights in your User Contributions. You acknowledge that the Company has no control over what other users may do with copies of your User Contributions if you remove your User Contributions from the Website.


Oh wow, users have ownership rights of the things they post to the website. That might explain why posts have tags like CC-BY-SA where users specify the license attached to their works, and why meshedvr made this post: (
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) about those licenses. I guess you thought that was all VAM trying to trick you so they could sue you?

There's a EULA that comes with the software which I've included if you wanted to read it, but it basically just says don't steal the source code of the VAM program and then includes this website EULA that we've been talking about. No restrictions of, or attempts to take ownership of, content created using VAM.
So, even if you were right and things downloaded off the website couldn't be used commercially, content created using VAM could have just been shared on another website or any other way.

Any other game devs reading, please use VAM. As you can see in this thread people love animations with physics. Just pay attention to the lisences of each individual work like you would when downloading models off of sketchfab for example.
 
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I did meet her. But can’t seem to progress further. Is the Nora sit resolved or ongoing. Just trying to see if I’m at end of update
 
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Maverick369 said:
I did meet her. But can’t seem to progress further. Is the Nora sit resolved or ongoing. Just trying to see if I’m at end of update
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Nora's story is still ongoing, if you have all memories for the characters unlocked, you're reached the end of current update.
 
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Mikecz23

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please gallery save. i have 121/147 scenes
exists unlocker? edit save file?
 
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