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Is it really worth it wasting your time and build in some bs just to protect cheats instead of making more content?
To be honest, producing coherent content takes much more time and effort than it may look like, I've occasionally spent hours just looking for a single right scene that would fit well with everything.

Copypasting bs took me 30mins in total and was a fun way to break out of the burnout of producing "just content".

I don't mind if you cheat with the console tbh, I still feel like you'd be playing a worse version of the game, for what the game has to offer, but you do you. Instead of setting all your variables to 100, though, i'd suggest to just set clickedderp2 to 1 , which is the variable for the cheat codes and gives you much better control over what you're doing, should have been easy enough to find.


Are there really people who are pathetic enough to subscribe to patreon just to get cheats to the game?

I REALLY like to hope and think that they mostly do that to support me, but I don't really like to pretend to know people's true motivations.
 
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j_1993_m

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Oh no, protection by obfuscation.
Anyways.
To cheat, simply open with F12 Dev tools in your browser and you can use the console there to change following values, should be enough to get through the game easily.
JavaScript:
SugarCube.State.active.variables.money = 99999
SugarCube.State.active.variables.energy = 999
SugarCube.State.active.variables.stress = 0
SugarCube.State.active.variables.lust = 100

SugarCube.State.active.variables.strength = 100
SugarCube.State.active.variables.stamina = 100

SugarCube.State.active.variables.confidence = 100
SugarCube.State.active.variables.culture = 100
SugarCube.State.active.variables.intelligence = 100
SugarCube.State.active.variables.coding = 100
SugarCube.State.active.variables.charisma = 100

SugarCube.State.active.variables.popularity = 100
SugarCube.State.active.variables.sexcontrol = 100
SugarCube.State.active.variables.sexexp = 100

SugarCube.State.active.variables.maxenergy = 999
SugarCube.State.active.variables.maxstress = 999
SugarCube.State.active.variables.maxlust = 999
Are there really people who are pathetic enough to subscribe to patreon just to get cheats to the game?
Is it really worth it wasting your time and build in some bs just to protect cheats instead of making more content?
It's like asking; are there really people who are pathetic enough to bypass all of a porn game's mechanics for instant gratification when Pornhub exists? I think we all know the answer to that question.

The main reason to support someone on Patreon isn't for a cheat code. It's to tell someone you like what they're doing and to keep at it.
 

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I'm a bit depressed about this version getting the absolute worst feedback that I've gotten since i started making this game, and I can't really understand why.
That's because your game becomes more popular)
Usually when first releases of any game appear on the forum they are played by those kind of players who are less selective and have less expectations from the games, they tend to encourage new devs and give more positive feedbacks.
And with the more updates released your game is being noticed by more picky players and their judging is more meticulous) They are more skeptical, notice more drawbacks and give scathing reviews)

Absolutely) I've even replaced the new image by the previous one in the game folder by myself)
P.S. Why did you even decide to generate a picture instead of taking the real photo of that model?
Both images don't look like her, the new one is just more creepy)
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Hey,
First I would like to say I really like the concept for the game. Having a rouguelite-esque where you have to focus on getting achievements to give you boosts in later attempts I really like. It means the player has to plan out their actions rather than just grind stats and then get all the girls. But I am also the kind of person who likes more 'thought provocating games' rather than just 'porn with buttons'. I REALLY like how each girl is affected by stats differently which means that its not just a case of maxing her 'opinion' but for some girls they may care more about how you look than how you act, and it makes them then feel unique.

I was worried with the banner that this would be heavy on the AI Cgs, but it seems minimal.

It is nice having consistent actresses for the girls, but I am sure this will create a 'scaling problem' if you want to do a combination of characters whose actresses haven't done a scene together.

Having paid cheats and attempts to avoid people seaching in the code for cheats was an interesting choice. Though its worth understanding that this is case of a 'determined enough thief', anybody who really wants to cheat and has at least some coding knowlege will be able to easily. Was at least slightly interesting to find the codes though.

For reference to anybody who wants them. Cheat codes for version 0.33 are:
Heavy: de494bug
Light: light228cheat

Honestly I wouldn't reccomend trying to make it hard to find the cheats, I can't imagine there are many people who would be willing to pay just for the cheats. People will donate to you if they want to support the game and see more of it.

It may instead be worth making the codes a reward for 100% the game. So people who have already enjoyed it can use them to mess about. Not a perfect idea since 'if they have comepleted the game then why would they need to cheat' but just an idea.

And for the record I do think its more fun to play without the cheats then with them, but if you want to cheat, go nuts.
 

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This one is also made with AI btw :D

Yeah, i'll try to fix it the other be a bit better, i thought the eyes were the biggest problem but yeah, it's a bit too different.
Though about it, but was not sure. Much better quality and more like girl on videos. The question, why you didn't use real photos, is still actual.
 

Lotrum

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Though about it, but was not sure. Much better quality and more like girl on videos. The question, why you didn't use real photos, is still actual.
I'm honestly not even sure what to answer to that question, AI certainly helps to fill some scenes that would otherwise have no existing material that can be reasonably adapted, some are a little less needed but I've done them anyway to... add something of mine i guess? I didn't realize that most people would have had such negative feelings about them, or i would have used them less lol

edit: there you go

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NotNamedAtAll

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This one is also made with AI btw :D

Yeah, i'll try to fix it the other be a bit better, i thought the eyes were the biggest problem but yeah, it's a bit too different.
Well, it was the biggest yeah ... Just look at the sheer size of those things ! She probably see right through your soul ! (or have a frog as parent).
Anyway, you're a nice one. If it were me and I had comment about character looks because of AI I would just change the scene and add some comment from the MC because the picture break his immersion into the simulation and he would rant against the AI creating said simulation, losing relationship points because the NPC just get insulted without knowing why. :D

Now, let's speak work ... I'm currently working on getting the fast food achievements... At first it was impossible, the option to work there always got me a "not enough energy", as I had +50 (not max, +50 left) I guess it's a bug with the check not searching for the right variable.
Now I can work there, no problem getting my energy checked (did nothing for that...) but ! the game is unable to deduce said energy. I'm working for free (energy-wise) because it also seem like the game doesn't find the variable (it say I spend $ffworkenergy energy ... So I can understand...)

I also think it would be great to add a bonus in fitness (less than swimming, less than a worked out bonus) when working in the fast food and having a success on the check. After all, when you're working in the kitchen you're pretty much running around all the time.
Also when you're handsome enough (fit and muscular enough, and well, always the same check for confidence) you could have the option to take the orders, getting some charisma out of it instead of fitness. (if it look too easy to grind charisma like this it would be ok to add another, harder, confidence check, after all, we speak about taking orders)

The idea would be to go closer to real life (working do increase your competence in some ways) and giving even more options to attain certains goals, breaking a bit the "meta" so the players would be able to do more things and try to mix/match some. (well, working in a fast food would be quite high level as without enough confidence you would most likely have very few benefits so that's fair)
 

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I am surprised by how much i like this game. I did not have high hopes for this one as most loop type games that i have played are usually quite bad and have either a lot of grinding and/or terrible game mechanics, but this game had none of that. I was able to access a decent amount of content in the first run itself, it didn't feel unnecessarily grindy and the mechanics were simple enough to understand easily and were fun. There was some grind to raise my stats but since i was regularly rewarded with new scenes, it didn't feel that bad.

That was until my latest run. In this run i was focusing on Natasha and i was done with everything except the achievement to see all the positions with her in her sex scene which required a lot of sex control. It took me so long to get enough sex control that i ended up unlocking all scenes with all the other characters and even after that i spent several in game days just going through the various sex scenes to up my sex control. That was a whole lot of grinding to see the whole scene. And after ending the run i realized that i will lose a good chunk of that stat and would have to go through all of it again to get my stats up.

As some others have suggested in earlier posts it would be better if retained stats were based on highest value achieved rather that your current stat to make subsequent runs less grindy. I understand that i went through that grind for an achievement and it wasn't just regular gameplay but it still put me off from starting a new run.

I still had a lot of fun and i am looking forward to new content.
 
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Well, it was the biggest yeah ... Just look at the sheer size of those things ! She probably see right through your soul ! (or have a frog as parent).
Anyway, you're a nice one. If it were me and I had comment about character looks because of AI I would just change the scene and add some comment from the MC because the picture break his immersion into the simulation and he would rant against the AI creating said simulation, losing relationship points because the NPC just get insulted without knowing why. :D

Now, let's speak work ... I'm currently working on getting the fast food achievements... At first it was impossible, the option to work there always got me a "not enough energy", as I had +50 (not max, +50 left) I guess it's a bug with the check not searching for the right variable.
Now I can work there, no problem getting my energy checked (did nothing for that...) but ! the game is unable to deduce said energy. I'm working for free (energy-wise) because it also seem like the game doesn't find the variable (it say I spend $ffworkenergy energy ... So I can understand...)

I also think it would be great to add a bonus in fitness (less than swimming, less than a worked out bonus) when working in the fast food and having a success on the check. After all, when you're working in the kitchen you're pretty much running around all the time.
Also when you're handsome enough (fit and muscular enough, and well, always the same check for confidence) you could have the option to take the orders, getting some charisma out of it instead of fitness. (if it look too easy to grind charisma like this it would be ok to add another, harder, confidence check, after all, we speak about taking orders)

The idea would be to go closer to real life (working do increase your competence in some ways) and giving even more options to attain certains goals, breaking a bit the "meta" so the players would be able to do more things and try to mix/match some. (well, working in a fast food would be quite high level as without enough confidence you would most likely have very few benefits so that's fair)
I'm trying to understand what could have happened but it doesn't make much sense code-wise, Is it possible that you have unlocked the Ms. Pearl achievement related to energy before you even entered the mall once or tried to work once?


"Work mechanics" is definitely not something that i would consider nearly completed as much as things for sale to spend the money on. For now work adds a malus to fitness, and has 3 levels of checks, one extra where(thanks to your confidence/dedication) you focus and work really hard could actually raise stamina a bit, yeah. Charisma might be the last level, but i would set the threshold pretty high, and that kind of work is already giving a good pay, so i wouldn't go too big on the gains, it's all good idea anyway!



I am surprised by how much i like this game. I did not have high hopes for this one as most loop type games that i have played are usually quite bad and have either a lot of grinding and/or terrible game mechanics, but this game had none of that. I was able to access a decent amount of content in the first run itself, it didn't feel unnecessarily grindy and the mechanics were simple enough to understand easily and were fun. There was some grind to raise my stats but since i was regularly rewarded with new scenes, it didn't feel that bad.

That was until my latest run. In this run i was focusing on Natasha and i was done with everything except the achievement to see all the positions with her in her sex scene which required a lot of sex control. It took me so long to get enough sex control that i ended up unlocking all scenes with all the other characters and even after that i spent several in game days just going through the various sex scenes to up my sex control. That was a whole lot of grinding to see the whole scene. And after ending the run i realized that i will lose a good chunk of that stat and would have to go through all of it again to get my stats up.

As some others have suggested in earlier posts it would be better if retained stats were based on highest value achieved rather that your current stat to make subsequent runs less grindy. I understand that i went through that grind for an achievement and it wasn't just regular gameplay but it still put me off from starting a new run.

I still had a lot of fun and i am looking forward to new content.



I'm glad you enjoyed the game :)

And you are talking about 2 matters:

That Natasha achievement is pretty high, yeah, in fact going for all achievements, while i understand why someone would want to do that is definitively not the "ideal gameplay" yet, and I could say that i would lower that achievement/scene requirement, but I'd really rather leave it as it is and add more content so that you can get there with less need to see repeated scenes, hoepefully going towards almost zero.

The stat retention rework is already planned, it will consider the highest stat you reached when you reset so that if you do a "half-run" you won't be punished for it.
 
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NotNamedAtAll

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I'm trying to understand what could have happened but it doesn't make much sense code-wise, Is it possible that you have unlocked the Ms. Pearl achievement related to energy before you even entered the mall once or tried to work once?
I did get the Pearl's achievement before trying to work.
Just tried starting a new simulation (it was in an ongoing one) and still the same. I start with 69 energy (good number) and I can work no problem but the energy isn't decreased and the printed prompt is messed up.
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Just tested on a new game and everything is fine. So the problem is certainly because I'm on an older save with a lot of bonuses already (and yeah, maybe the Pearl's achievement)

I can't replicate the "not enough energy" bug, even with older saves, so I guess it's not an important one. I think I just reloaded and that was enough ...
 
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I did get the Pearl's achievement before trying to work.
Thanks for the reply, considering everything, I think that's what broke it, it tried to set an unset variable to -2 and now it's in some sort of limbo where it's neither unset nor valid and it cannot fix itself, I would have expected a Number NaN, but I don't know at this point...
 

DKoW

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How does the Carol / Susan threesome start? Nothing seems to be happening. I'm continuing an older save. Is that causing issues?
 

NotNamedAtAll

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How does the Carol / Susan threesome start? Nothing seems to be happening. I'm continuing an older save. Is that causing issues?
No problem on this part. You just have to speak to Susan, she'll have something on her mind. At that moment you'll be on the way.
 
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DKoW

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No problem on this part. You just have to speak to Susan, she'll have something on her mind. At that moment you'll be on the way.
I mean after that. I've not found an option to talk to Carol about it, and nothing else seems to happen. What am I supposed to do after talking to Susan?
 

NotNamedAtAll

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I mean after that. I've not found an option to talk to Carol about it, and nothing else seems to happen. What am I supposed to do after talking to Susan?
Oh yeah. Well, you must have already had a full go with Carol, so with Natasha and her. After that you can just speak to Carol and ask "hey, wanna do it again but with another one ?" and that should do the trick.
 
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Oh yeah. Well, you must have already had a full go with Carol, so with Natasha and her. After that you can just speak to Carol and ask "hey, wanna do it again but with another one ?" and that should do the trick.
Had threesome with Natash and Carol then went to Carol, no such option was given. Already fucked Carol and did Anal with her.
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This is what it shows in the same day, after I did the threesome(did it several times before too.)
 
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