HTML Just One More Chance [v0.54] [Lotrum]

[Lotrum]

Hey,


Also while I have your attention, I feel like it would be worth making the achievment rewards more consistent. Like why does kissing Rose give you an extra day but most girls its just a stat boost. And why does sleeping with Ms Pearl decrease the energy required to work at the fast food place? Like I get the general theme of each one (Natasha requires money and so her achivements give money) but they do seem quite random at times.

Personally I would reccomend having general rules for each activity with each girl. So Maybe- First Kisses give you +5 stat boost on a new run and having sex with a girl for the first time gives you +8 stat boost on a new run. Then have each girl have a 'boost type' so which matches her character (Carol could be Culture, while Katrina would be Intelligence). This can give the player an idea of how to boost their stats like 'Oh I need more intelligence on runs, I should focus on Katrina). This helps them organise their routes though the game. The rewards should also help link to other girls, so the player is jumping from girl to girl, progressing more each time. (You can keep the unique rewards but tie them to unique achievements)

I understand this might severely hurt the brain of someone that has ocd or a structured way of thinking, but while still being rough, it's entirely made on purpose.
The base concept is that I don't want the game to feel like you're compiling a database of girls and bonuses, same way as I (at least try to) use different approaches and different mechanics to interact with every girl. It's asymmetrical on purpose.
I partially regret that every single girl has a kiss, a fuck and a virgin achievement, and i'll try to discontinue that in the future, except maybe the "fuck" one which is kind of mandatory.
Since the last patch all achievement now show a preview of what they will give, So i guess you can plan ahead now, but I'd prefer if the player was able to think and find his own strategy among chaos than to follow an obvious route.
As most other things, hopefully this will get better with more content being added.


About the cheats. You used a smart method but you probably missed out on most of the flavor text and nosense that you would have encountered if you opened it with Twine and checked passages, which is the way I assumed most people would have used to find codes. The fact that you shared it gives me very simple ideas on how to counter that specific method entirely. But yeah, the minigame was always meant to discourage from posting them.

As I said before, you do you.
Honestly, convincing a single person not to do something like this is as pointless as shoveling snow, maybe solves the problem for a while, maybe it snows again the following day and it was all for nothing. So I won't bother telling you what to do, I'll keep the minigame in cause it would be sad to remove it now and it's kind of fun if not anything else.

I apologize if I sounded dramatic, wasn't my intention. I cracked a lot of stuff in my life, so I don't like being an hypocrite. In an ideal world the same number of people would be supporting me with or without cheats, but unfortunately that's not what the facts show, and I'm still at the point where it makes a big difference financially.

 

[Druid64]

Hey,

I understand your annoyance in the codes being leaked. My intention was never to financially harm you but to play the 'cheat cracking' game you set out. You made a game in hiding the codes, well I will play and post the proof of my success. If you never added the 'cheat cracking' game, I would never have posted the codes. If you removed the 'cheat cracking' game I would have stopped posting them.

I do this with no malice in my heart. I do this for fun.

I legit play without the cheats because I know its more fun. I reccomended people support you because I enjoy the game and would enjoy more of it.

Personally I do dislike the idea of 'paid cheats', if someone wants to cheat on a single player game, they should be able to. I understand that even without the codes and without an 'offical' cheat method, people can still cheat and you don't put in any walls to block people from cheating. I still don't like the concept of trying to get people to pay to be able to play the game how they want to play it. As I said before, I think you are making an enjoyable game and people should support you to support the game, not becaue they believe it is the only way to play how they want to play.


I personally don't want any drama and so if you are so upset about it, then I will stop posting the codes.

It is up to you if you want to keep the 'cheat cracking' game going or not. But I would personally ask for you to remove it. If you do want to keep it up, then I will tell you the method I used to solve it (in around 4 mins) for you to defend against.

Spoiler: Craking the Codes

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Also while I have your attention, I feel like it would be worth making the achievment rewards more consistent. Like why does kissing Rose give you an extra day but most girls its just a stat boost. And why does sleeping with Ms Pearl decrease the energy required to work at the fast food place? Like I get the general theme of each one (Natasha requires money and so her achivements give money) but they do seem quite random at times.

Personally I would reccomend having general rules for each activity with each girl. So Maybe- First Kisses give you +5 stat boost on a new run and having sex with a girl for the first time gives you +8 stat boost on a new run. Then have each girl have a 'boost type' so which matches her character (Carol could be Culture, while Katrina would be Intelligence). This can give the player an idea of how to boost their stats like 'Oh I need more intelligence on runs, I should focus on Katrina). This helps them organise their routes though the game. The rewards should also help link to other girls, so the player is jumping from girl to girl, progressing more each time. (You can keep the unique rewards but tie them to unique achievements)

For example, If you remove Natasha's money rewards and replace it with some stat boost. But then add them for Carol's achivements for geting money from her. This then makes more sense (get money from Carol -> start with more money), but it then allows you to do Natasha's path on your next loop. Then Natasha could give Popularity as her stat type which then allows you to do Melanieon your next loop, and so on. Nothing being set in stone (you could still get money to do Natasha via working and whatnot) but it helps guide the player to experience a variety of the game rather than doing one girl at a time.

All in all, Best of luck with your endeavours.

Could you not just read the post correctly and understand that simply waiting a day or two to post the codes would not have hurt Lotrum as bad financially as doing so within a few hours. Lotrum didn't ask you not to do it just stated that doing so immediately caused a large drop in revenue. Does that not seem at all reasonable to you?

 

[ElizabethArtemis]

Could you not just read the post correctly and understand that simply waiting a day or two to post the codes would not have hurt Lotrum as bad financially as doing so within a few hours. Lotrum didn't ask you not to do it just stated that doing so immediately caused a large drop in revenue. Does that not seem at all reasonable to you?

I did understand that, I just decided that I didn't want any drama, and the simpliest method of that is to no longer post the codes.
I know they did not ask me to stop, I chose to.

 

[Lotrum]

I did understand that, I just decided that I didn't want any drama, and the simpliest method of that is to no longer post the codes.
I know they did not ask me to stop, I chose to.

Thanks for your answer, I hope that you are all aware that there is going to be someone else posting them regardlessly, maybe even from Patreon, my hope is just that I can get a couple days between the patch and the leak, but who knows!

 

[troll822]

I see the "ai CG" tag. But the preview pics don't look AI-generated (or they could be and I am not good at spotting them). Is there AI CG for the women or just for backgrounds?
Could someone put this on the opening post if it is just backgrounds?

 

[Lotrum]

I see the "ai CG" tag. But the preview pics don't look AI-generated (or they could be and I am not good at spotting them). Is there AI CG for the women or just for backgrounds?
Could someone put this on the opening post if it is just backgrounds?

Some of the preview pics are AI generated. basically all backgrounds are, Most of the static images of girls modified with AI

None of the actual content(videos) is made with AI.

Not sure what i should put on OP and where

 

[ThanatosX]

Put it in the Dev notes, don't think the tags are that granular. Preview images should show what your game looks like.

 

[Jack Man]

I'll have that medal, thanks

 

[Nimos_]

The roguelite aspect is really well done ! congrats i'll keep an eye on this one

 

[Remembrance]

Tbh, people who post will post regardless of difficulty for *prestige* points or whatever. So the obsfucation drm might just work (won't work for leaks tho).
It will only serve to stimulate crackers, but those may not share the same motivation in sharing the code.
It's fun tho. I literally downloaded a game to see the code. It has a much bigger narrative prologue that I actually liked. Then sandbox started & I stopped playing, went to the code location, figured out the code (took 10 mins, pretty fun) & then deleted the game. Didn't even use the cheat
This looks like another sandbox nightmare so pass. Good luck tho.

I'll just leave saying this: html & renpy aren't secure, so it's impossible to make foolproof drm. Most can just open the html/rpy files & change the code ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

Most are still clueless tho, so that's where your subs come from ig.

 

[Asphyxiationist]

Reading through the thread, maybe I am crazy, but how are you complaining about codes being leaked but also using real porn videos for you content, seems pretty hypocritical. This is a pirate site, expect to get pirated, and not pirated on your terms.

 

[Lotrum]

Reading through the thread, maybe I am crazy, but how are you complaining about codes being leaked but also using real porn videos for you content, seems pretty hypocritical. This is a pirate site, expect to get pirated, and not pirated on your terms.

I apologize if it seemed that way, I'm not asking anybody to do or not do anything.
I'm not complaining, I posted an observation about that happened a couple pages ago and that was it.
You can do what you want.

 

[Pedrocas77]

Whos the girl with the blue bra on the pics?

 

[Milkyff]

Code is 121heavy4deb

 

[toondoo1]

impressive. better than most HTML games on here for sure.

 

[KNV]

For people who don't want to do the "minigame":

Spoiler: Cheats

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[Lotrum]

One of the codes that you posted is not the code from current version and might get bugged.

If you really want to use the cheats and can't afford supporting me, just open the console(f12) and paste:

SugarCube.State.active.variables.clickedderp2 = 1
SugarCube.State.active.variables.clickedderp = 2

This will work with every version.

Edit:
I added this in the developer notes in the OP, so maybe you can stop obsessing over the useless cheats.

It's kind of sad that It's all the replies are about and I had almost zero feedback about anything else in the last 2 updates.

Do you even still like the game? lol

 

[DeadEyesSee]

I really enjoy this game! Quick question, will there ever be a way to get Melanie to have anal if you have vaginal sex with her first and to have vaginal with her if you chose the blackmail path?

 

[Lotrum]

I really enjoy this game! Quick question, will there ever be a way to get Melanie to have anal if you have vaginal sex with her first and to have vaginal with her if you chose the blackmail path?

Yes to the first question.

No to the second one, blackmail path blocks true love vaginal sex

 

[fayoun]

One of the codes that you posted is not the code from current version and might get bugged.

If you really want to use the cheats and can't afford supporting me, just open the console(f12) and paste:

SugarCube.State.active.variables.clickedderp2 = 1
SugarCube.State.active.variables.clickedderp = 2

This will work with every version.

Edit:
I added this in the developer notes in the OP, so maybe you can stop obsessing over the useless cheats.

It's kind of sad that It's all the replies are about and I had almost zero feedback about anything else in the last 2 updates.

Do you even still like the game? lol

Game is really great, love the rogue aspect! Don't even need the cheats (more fun without). Great work!