VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.1 Part I] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[rai1230]

She can mostly probably still die on some paths (sorry Dark Quean Olivia) but she isn't going to be demoted, enter the slave ranks etc etc...I have no idea where the hell that started, like have some people just not been paying attention?

ok thanks for answering

 

[Sharpshooter890]

Very good to know thank you. I'm sure your services will come in useful should this silly revolty thing continue to annoy me by getting in the way of my beauty treatments and pampering.

Marie Antounette sends her regards. Sic semper tyrannis!

 

[Maviarab]

Well jeesh, reading the walkthrough...it looks like my save sheet is going to require some radical redesigning with how many new point variables Tess is going to be adding in Part 2 and 3.

*takes a deep breath*

**Also updating my sheets as read through the new walkthrough, some extra details affecting part 2 that were not listed/flagged in part 1 so adding those in now as I go.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Since shes saying be patient sounds like we wont be getting her to be a sub for another couple years in at least chapter 9.

Sounds like 9 is when things get good.

 

[Maviarab]

Since shes saying be patient sounds like we wont be getting her to be a sub for another couple years in at least chapter 9.

Sounds like 9 is when things get good.

Yeah it's looking like that's the chapter where things 'really kick off'. Appears there's going to be a lot happening in 9.

 

[LAKueiJin]

Sic semper tyrannis!

I don't take dominant Kane for the "hero of the people" anti-tyranny revolutionary type tbf, so I'm not quite sure what you're on about here. The guillotine also fell down on Louis XVI, not just Marie Antoinette, and so it did on wannabe revolutionary Robespierre a couple years later so, you know, be careful what you ask for! Commies like myself wouldn't mind a secret "good ending" where the k1-3s in the mines all rise up and guillotine the karlsson board decadent bourgeoisie to establish some direct democratic commune of the people, but that also includes getting rid of all the male doms, you know?

Also, while Tess has indicated Dark Quean Olivia might end up subservient to Kane in that post that you linked, Kane has already ended up at the feet of his rightful cruel Mistress on... close to half the existent paths, so you're a bit like a guy celebrating his team's goal in a match they lost 5-1 over here... Femdom reigns supreme over the Karlssonverse!

 

[Sharpshooter890]

I don't take dominant Kane for the "hero of the people" anti-tyranny revolutionary type tbf, so I'm not quite sure what you're on about here. The guillotine also fell down on Louis XVI, not just Marie Antoinette, and so it did on wannabe revolutionary Robespierre a couple years later so, you know, be careful what you ask for! Commies like myself wouldn't mind a secret "good ending" where the k1-3s in the mines all rise up and guillotine the karlsson board decadent bourgeoisie to establish some direct democratic commune of the people, but that also includes getting rid of all the male doms, you know?

Also, while Tess has indicated Dark Quean Olivia might end up subservient to Kane in that post that you linked, Kane has already ended up at the feet of his cruel Mistress on... close to half the existent paths, so you're a bit like a guy celebrating his team's goal in a match they lost 5-1 over here... Femdom reigns supreme over the Karlssonverse!

I had a fury warrior in WoW named Robespierre, because a big part of the rotation was spamming 'Execute' ability. Nothing to do with the topic, I just find it funny as hell.

As for my seemingly deranged anti-authoritarian behaviour - that's purely from a position of a worthless nothing to live for K1 looser. He has nothing to loose but his chains, so he hopes that maybe he can incite the proletarian revolution among his fellow loosers (err, I meant mine workers). Hopefully everyone will die in that scenario - the masters and the slaves both, and the living will envy the dead!

But that's an alternate universe scenario, like in superhero films, not my main continuity, in which Kane will crush all those who oppose or challenge him - regardless of whether they are family or friends. But one thing he will never do is bow down to Olivia or anyone else.

 

[Maviarab]

Commies like myself wouldn't mind a secret "good ending" where the k1-3s in the mines all rise up and guillotine the karlsson board decadent bourgeoisie to establish some direct democratic commune of the people,

Pretty sure this will happen in some form in the Revolution Ending.


Edit:
For all Veronica fans, walkthrough pretty much confirms Veronica romance is tied to not doing the game show. Miss opportunity to get a lot of special 'points' not available if you agree to do the game show. These are required for her romance path.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Edit:
For all Veronica fans, walkthrough pretty much confirms Veronica romance is tied to not doing the game show. Miss opportunity to get a lot of special 'points' not available if you agree to do the game show. These are required for her romance path.

Yea, basically, it looks like Kane's mommy gonna have to play matchmaker to make that shitshow work.

 

[LAKueiJin]

Pretty sure this will happen in some form in the Revolution Ending.

Wait... There actually is a revolution ending??? As in, you know for sure one is planned by Tess? I was mostly just shitposting in the spirit of the thread - who knew my shitposts were going to be this prophetic?

I only play porn games for femdom, as is evident from... basically everything I type, including my signature, but, erotic proclivities aside, I wouldn't mind an ending where either Kane or Olivia (or both of them) help the downtrodden masses take over and lynch most of the elites at the top of the corporation. (some of them can certainly provoke one's moral disgust, so yeah, that'd be an interesting ending)

I had a fury warrior in WoW named Robespierre, because a big part of the rotation was spamming 'Execute' ability. Nothing to do with the topic, I just find it funny as hell.

That's cool. Try "Stalin" next, a tank build who must always "stall" the enemy to protect the rest of the party and only has one OP large scale "on area" execute ability he can spam, called something like "Purge!!!", "Trotsky's Ice Pick" or "Gulag"!

As for my seemingly deranged anti-authoritarian behaviour - that's purely from a position of a worthless nothing to live for K1 looser. He has nothing to loose but his chains, so he hopes that maybe he can incite the proletarian revolution among his fellow loosers (err, I meant mine workers). Hopefully everyone will die in that scenario - the masters and the slaves both, and the living will envy the dead!

You have a very... uniquely refined sense of justice, I'll give you that!

But that's an alternate universe scenario, like in superhero films, not my main continuity, in which Kane will crush all those who oppose or challenge him - regardless of whether they are family or friends. But one thing he will never do is bow down to Olivia or anyone else.

And, as I said, that continuity is just one possible outcome among hundreds others where Mistress Olivia, Dominique, Juliette or some other Karlsson sister comes out on top while slave Kane bows down on his knees - a drop in the ocean of a multiverse where femdom scenarios reign supreme!

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Also looks like the SS path will include others. I suppose the question now is whether with Alessa's permission or it can branch out/another option to leave Alessa.

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I wonder how this will work with the current SubK5+ route (which currently the highest you can get is K7)...*shrugs*


You know it's all in good fun banter Crow

I mean true subs rising in the rank, and keeping that “sub statues” will be interesting… Juliette does hint this on the sub path
- getting Kyle Killed - Earning more points for her by getting Jake and Zach to k1 or even death…

 

[Maviarab]

I mean true subs rising in the rank, and keeping that “sub statues” will be interesting… Juliette does hint this on the sub path
- getting Kyle Killed - Earning more points for her by getting Jake and Zach to k1 or even death…

Yeah but I meant specifically away from the SS path, if you start at K4, you can get out of the K4 track and get promoted already. This then becaomes, basically in essence, a SS dom path which seriously disappointed me as it's no different. Maybe Tess going to actually expand on this route properly now?

 

[Sharpshooter890]

That's cool! Try "Stalin" next, a tank build who must always "stall" the enemy to protect the rest of the party and only has one OP large scale "on area" execute ability he can span, named something like "Purge!!!", "Trotsky's Ice Pick" or "Gulag"!

The name for the ability would be 'Collectivisation'. Also,'stal' means 'steel' in russian, so he's like Man of Steel.

Yeah but I meant specifically away from the SS path, if you start at K4, you can get out of the K4 track and get promoted already. This then becaomes, basically in essence, a SS dom path which seriously disappointed me as it's no different. Maybe Tess going to actually expand on this route properly now?

Hmm, I think it would require a lot of tweaking in the previous episodes (coding/text/maybe images) to actually make such a path a viable option. Most people tend to stick to either Sub or Dom route (including SecretSub one, which feels the weakest of the 3), so I don't see it happening. Personally, I think 10 ranks was too much to begin with, 5-6 would be more than enough.

 

[LAKueiJin]

Yeah but I meant specifically away from the SS path, if you start at K4, you can get out of the K4 track and get promoted already. This then becaomes, basically in essence, a SS dom path which seriously disappointed me as it's no different. Maybe Tess going to actually expand on this route properly now?

I actually tried that path at your suggestion last time, and it's currently so disappointing that the NPCs do not even remember properly Kane's actions. As in, when I got the first "secret sub" scene with Alessandra after I got Kane promoted to K5, she even told Kane stuff like "did you know some of the lesser men in this program have their dicks locked in chastity?".

'Yeah, as a matter of fact I do know Alessandra, and so do you, as yesterday I was a K4 and you stepped on my caged dick and had me worship your pussy while you were giving shocks to Zach and Jack - surely you must remember m'lady?"

My Kane must've been befuddled at Alessandra's (and Celeste's) sudden memory loss, but seriously, the secret sub scene in chapter 6 does not take into account whatsoever if you entered the facility as a K4 or a K5 and all of Alessandra and Celeste's lines are written as if you were always a K5, which is quite annoying and immersion-breaking, so hopefully the "full sub on the dom paths" concept gets a little more love and attention from Tess in the coming updates.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Yeah but I meant specifically away from the SS path, if you start at K4, you can get out of the K4 track and get promoted already. This then becaomes, basically in essence, a SS dom path which seriously disappointed me as it's no different. Maybe Tess going to actually expand on this route properly now?

I wouldn’t say it’s a secret sub path… it’s still the sub route but your up your rank… she says it right hereIt will be possible for a true sub to hit rank K5 after rank K5 after Part 3. It will be different than K4 with some scenes in Episode 9, but in the grand
scheme of overall status, K5 as a sub will not be as meaningful as K6.”

True Sub will be different than secret sub

 

[Maviarab]

I actually tried that path at your suggestion last time, and it's currently so disappointing that the NPCs do not even remember properly Kane's actions. As in, when I got the first "secret sub" scene with Alessandra after I got Kane promoted to K5, she even told Kane stuff like "did you know some of the lesser men in this program have their dicks locked in chastity?".

'Yeah, as a matter of fact I do know Alessandra, and so do you, as yesterday I was a K4 and you stepped on my caged dick and had me worship your pussy while you were giving shocks to Zach and Jack - surely you must remember m'lady?"

My Kane must've been befuddled at Alessandra's (and Celeste's) sudden memory loss, but seriously, the secret sub scene in chapter 6 does not take into account whatsoever if you entered the facility as a K4 or a K5 and all of Alessandra and Celeste's lines are written as if you were always a K5, which is quite annoyuing and immersion-breaking, so hopefully the "full sub on the dom paths" concept gets a little more love and attention from Tess in the coming updates.

Yeah exactly this. Despite the few dialogue inconsistencies it effectively becomes a secret sub route. I was as I said, very disappointed myself that was it. I'd have even been happier if it become a full dom path at that point rather than what it was. Hpowever, it seems Tess is expanding on this going forward so, I guess we shall see. I ultimately don't really care either way as it's a save I have just for the sake of doing it...

I wouldn’t say it’s a secret sub path… it’s still the sub route but your up your rank… she says it right hereIt will be possible for a true sub to hit rank K5 after rank K5 after Part 3. It will be different than K4 with some scenes in Episode 9, but in the grand
scheme of overall status, K5 as a sub will not be as meaningful as K6.”

True Sub will be different than secret sub

That's the point. Currently it very much is. You go from K4 to K5...and you automatically enter the Alessa SS path while now being on the dom path. There's no difference at all...currently. Let's hope this new info expands on this currently, very disappointing path. (as you may as well just do the Alessa SS route in the first place).

 

[PickerLewd]

I can no longer read Kuei-Jin without getting angry, LAKueiJin you remind me of the traitorous rat Ming Xiao . No offence to you.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Yeah exactly this. Despite the few dialogue inconsistencies it effectively becomes a secret sub route. I was as I said, very disappointed myself that was it. I'd have even been happier if it become a full dom path at that point rather than what it was. Hpowever, it seems Tess is expanding on this going forward so, I guess we shall see. I ultimately don't really care either way as it's a save I have just for the sake of doing it...


That's the point. Currently it very much is. You go from K4 to K5...and you automatically enter the Alessa SS path while now being on the dom path. There's no difference at all...currently. Let's hope this new info expands on this currently, very disappointing path. (as you may as well just do the Alessa SS route in the first place).

I think it revolves around “when” you hit k5 mark, specifically for the secret sub path… before the gameshow starts is pretty much where the line is drawn for what your Kane is going to be… like right up before the Gameshow, Veronica pretty much says that your submissive by default (and that there’s no really dom behaviors) that’s the way I’m looking at it

 

[LAKueiJin]

I can no longer read Kuei-Jin without getting angry, LAKueiJin you remind me of the traitorous rat Ming Xiao . No offence to you.

"None taken, neonate! One cannot expect reactions other than blind anger and emotional outrage from... your kind. Now excuse me, Cainite, for I, the Jade mistress of many faces, shall take my rightful place atop the Ivory tower! In the mean time I invite you, my naive champion, to take a nice maritime holiday in Santa Monica Bay with the Ankaran Sarcophagus!" - that's Mistress Ming Xiao sending her regards to you as she takes over LA

Anyway, nice to meet a fellow "kindred" (eg Vampire: the Masquerade fan) over here! Kinda fun that with all the dark themes, vampires, werewolves and apocalyptic prohecies in the world of darkness, I always found it a more warm and less dystopian setting than the capitalist nightmare Tess has weaved in Karlssson's gambit!

 

[Stan5851]

Think about it though - Kane's name alludes to one of two things. Either a cane/walking stick, suggesting Olivia might give him the Harry treatment or, you know, his cursed-to-never-win-any-trophy footballer namesake. Also, foot+ball = ballbusting! The stars align, and they all seem to suggest it's little slave Kane that's in for a spanking/ballbusting by Goddess Olivia, not the other way around!

Are you doubting Tess? Personally, I don't. Tess has always been consistent and done what she promised/announced... And as for the references in the MC's name, I think that the name Kane refers us to the biblical name Cain (yes, the same one who killed his brother Abel).