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He sure likes to keep us in suspense. I honestly wonder what the big change is. I realize I might start another useless discussion here but could it actually be pregnancy? What else could fall under 'new gameplay addition'? Although a pregnancy mechanic seems way too big to just randomly include in a otherwise planned update.
Very unlikely given that he recently answered on twitter that it was not going to be included in the game.
Random Bob
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On paper, this sounds like a pretty awesome update. Less difficulty jumps and more control over your character's attributes, since a single action wouldn't give you like 30 level up's anymore.
Cautious stance change is an interesting one, I don't mind the energy cost if it'll become a move that's at least worth considering now. I don't think I've found a single good use for it previously.
It's a nice anti-idiot measure as well, since people spamming what was basically "wait a turn" button for 30 minutes, then complaining that the game's grindy and it takes forever to see any scenes were definitely not a rare occurrence.
The daily report is a good QoL change, no doubt. It'll be good to have a condensed overview of what the hell's going on, especially with additional side-jobs and new mechanics like the stalling penalty.
Cautious stance change is an interesting one, I don't mind the energy cost if it'll become a move that's at least worth considering now. I don't think I've found a single good use for it previously.
It's a nice anti-idiot measure as well, since people spamming what was basically "wait a turn" button for 30 minutes, then complaining that the game's grindy and it takes forever to see any scenes were definitely not a rare occurrence.
The daily report is a good QoL change, no doubt. It'll be good to have a condensed overview of what the hell's going on, especially with additional side-jobs and new mechanics like the stalling penalty.
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Bloodly
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The second "major" (for some) change is that Cautious Stance is no longer available from the start. You have to buy the Edict for it before Karryn learns it. The reasoning for this change is too long for me to write here and is probably best saved for a Dev Log type post if anyone is interested. But basically Karryn doesn't start with it learn, and it costs Energy to use, and it's effects are much stronger than before so it's like a weak Defensive Stance alternative for Agility builds.
So she will have no defensive measures at all unless one or the other of Defensive/Cautious is bought? Then what are you supposed to do against a wind-up attack other than simply sit there and take it? Focus letting you possibly counter is one thing, but those attacks, for obvious reasons, hit really hard even on grazes in many cases and frankly most of your money is more likely to go on stabilizing the money and order situation so you can, you know, keep playing. And one-shotting the enemies isn't likely either.
I guess you really aren't meant to get through the game in one run. I'm missing something, I think.
The waitress and receptionist jobs are the normal jobs, the next two (Gloryhole and Stripper) are lewd jobs.i do hope they add more "normal" jobs to the game to balance out the lewd jobs it would be interesting to see.. and hopefully no time limit, its already hard enough
I'm way more excited to see the new ones, I think the receptionist job is boring.
I've definitely found the game more fun since setting Order to be 100 at the start of every day (so the game never ends).and hopefully no time limit, its already hard enough
Cautious Stance was a Trap Skill and you should almost never have used it in the first place (unless you wanted to hardcore train Agility that is because you can abuse it a lot, since it doesn't cost Energy), since you were basically doing no damage a turn and you want end fights quick in a fighter build. Most of the time it is actually much better to try to either kill the one, that is winding up or at least take someone else out, before you get hit. Also you should know, which enemies are the ones, that even have a wind up attack and start to get rid of them first, before they can even start winding up. Also if you think about the enemies that have wind up attacks:
Goblins you can one-shot
Thugs using Cautious Stance is a waste, since you will get the unbalanced debuff anyway, even if every single hit misses
Rogues you can one-shot
Angry Nerds you can one-shot (well not really wind up, but they are dangerous if angry and left alive)
Slimes are easy managable with Special attacks (and by that time, I am sure, we will have the upgraded version of Cautious Stance anyway)
Same for 2. Boss and Angry Orcs
I think it's gonna be some new stat to menage next to order, gold, fatigue and pleasure.
Bloodly
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Goblins you can one-shot
False.
Rogues you can one-shot
False.
Slimes are easy managable with Special attacks (and by that time, I am sure, we will have the upgraded version of Cautious Stance anyway)
Don't have any. The money went on trying to clean up the money and order situation, as the game was so kind to advise me on. Which didn't actually help.
My experience doesn't mesh with the words.
Meh. If you're interested, this is what I'm working with. Just following the rock-paper scissors. When not able to use an attack that beats the person I'm aiming at, I use the same type as they are.
...And here where I get told 'Git GUD' or some such. Bleh.
False.
Rogues you can one-shot
False.
Slimes are easy managable with Special attacks (and by that time, I am sure, we will have the upgraded version of Cautious Stance anyway)
Don't have any. The money went on trying to clean up the money and order situation, as the game was so kind to advise me on. Which didn't actually help.
My experience doesn't mesh with the words.
Meh. If you're interested, this is what I'm working with. Just following the rock-paper scissors. When not able to use an attack that beats the person I'm aiming at, I use the same type as they are.
...And here where I get told 'Git GUD' or some such. Bleh.
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jasogate
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Ok, judging by the pictures, my guess is, you did the mistake and invest very early on in Edicts that increased Order? Because you have almost no Edicts as far as I see. Never do that, you will crush your income that way.
Your biggest problem is not having any items. They make a giant difference in my experience. I always buy the +10 agility item on the first day. Secondly: You really need those side jobs as soon as possible. The waitress job especially provides a good money boost for pretty much no cost (fatigue) except time (as in, the time it takes irl for you to complete the minigame). Getting the edicts for the bar job as well as for rum and vodka (=more money) is one of the first things I do after subjugating level 1.
Secondly, you should at least get one of the specialized attacks (I recomend the agility one). They provide a considerable boost
Also, how long did you spend on level 1? I feel that rushing to level 2 will have a negative effect on the playthrough, as the order becomes unmanagable. Try to grind out a few major edicts before proceding to level 2.
Also, git gud.
https://f95zone.to/threads/karryns-prison-v0-6n2-remtairy.33777/post-4089044
Here is a very basic start, that shows all Edicts choices and progress pictures, that should help you in the early game. Now this start is not perfect, since I have found better ways to start but you should get the general idea. Also pick Starting Title: Ambitious Experimenter, it helps you kick off very quick with extra income.
wait so how are you supposed to grind charm without cautious stance
there's no other option to end your turn without doing anything, which is precisely what you need to do to level charm without leveling everything else up at the same time
there's no other option to end your turn without doing anything, which is precisely what you need to do to level charm without leveling everything else up at the same time
Bloodly
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Also, how long did you spend on level 1?
About 10 days+, I think? I was max level by the end of it. Lost to the Orc once, because I didn't clear the room before fighting him and he got me through attrition. it was depressing going from -7 to -10 to 12 or so Order after a supposed victory.
Understand that this is without any New Game+. I'm in a rut of sorts. I can't strengthen by fighting(I'm capped), but I can't beat certain opponents blocking my way either.
About 10 days+, I think? I was max level by the end of it. Lost to the Orc once, because I didn't clear the room before fighting him and he got me through attrition. it was depressing going from -7 to -10 to 12 or so Order after a supposed victory.
Understand that this is without any New Game+. I'm in a rut of sorts. I can't strengthen by fighting(I'm capped), but I can't beat certain opponents blocking my way either.
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Scorian
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I'm the opposite I prefer the receptionist job over the waitress since it tends to get more hectic with everything you have to keep track and stay on top of.