RedAISkye

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The devs are telling the players again that they're playing an XXX game, not a silly beat them up romance simulator
If you actually played the game, you'd know that there are lot of things catered around having different playstyles other than just full on slut mode to the game. So, no, this isn't your generic porn game where it's all sex or nothing.

Again, if you're happy with the the lack of content on higher floors and think the rushed ending is "perfect", cool, you do you mate. But, unlike you, I have standards which doesn't drop low just because it's a "porn game". This game is more than that and the devs can definitely improve a lot on the already great foundation they've built.

Also, that's a false analogy, you're comparing a game full of sexual content with a game that isn't meant to have any sexual content. So while it would be unreasonable to expect more than a kiss & hug in DD, the same doesn't apply for KP so it's perfectly reasonable to expect sex with the fair-haired prince.
 
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NekoPi

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To expand on what Suncatcher said (I have spent way too much time combing through the game's code, probably more than actually playing it)

- 4 states of drunk is right: sobler, tipsy, drunk and dread drunk. These happen when your alcohol value (not visible in-game) reaches a certain % value of your maximum stamina, so more stamina means you can drink more. These get reached for alcohol per stamina at 20% (Tipsy), 40% (drunk) and 70% (dead drunk).

- The alcohol value per drink isn't fixed and the calculation kinda complicated. It depends on how big of a sip the person takes and there's a modifier on every sip that takes into account the drinker's stamina and endurance as well as the stam / endurance of every other person present, and is different depending on whether Karryn or an inmate drinks. Maybe to simulate the impact of drinking in front of an audience or in a larger gathering?
Anyways. No, water does not add to your alcohol. It's actual water, not Grand Blue Dreaming water.
(Fun fact: when an enemy drinks, they not only take alcohol damage, they also take stamina damage, so they are easier to beat in a brawl)

- Despite claiming the opposite, Karryn will always take two sips of a drink when offered (for comparison, the ales start with 8 sips" and the smaller glasses with 4), unless there's only one left in the glass. When she's saying "OK, but just a tiny sip" she'll chug half of that vodka glass.

- Whiskey is the drink with the highest alcohol amount and lizardmen fucking love whiskey. Every inmate has a randomly generated favorite drink which they're more likely to order than others (and Nerds' favorite drink is water 33% of the time, so kick those fuckers out). But when you get whiskey on the menu, oh boy, do the lizardmen go apeshit for that, two times out of three it's their favorite drink. So if you want to get drunk, load up on whiskeys and loiter around lizardmen.

- Certain enemy types are more likely to ask you to drink if you selected a favorable solution to their "problem": Thugs will ask more often if you opted for no thug labor, lizardmen will ask when you took the Free Drinks edict and orcs will share when you implemented their accessibility edict. (Conversely, if you selected their "slutty" solution, most enemy types are more likely to harass you.)

- To get the title: despite the variable indicating you need to get dead drunk, you only need to get normal drunk (flushed face, three seconds extra on every action) ten times to get the title. Probably because getting dead drunk is kinda hard. So if you just want the title, drink until her face is flushed, then you can stop accepting drinks or do whatever.

- Speaking of time required for actions: Having the experienced waitress title reduces time by 1 second, and actually using it by another 2 seconds. But there's a lot that can increase it: being aroused, being wet and being horny all increase the time by 1 second each. Then being tipsy is +1, being drunk is +3 and dead drunk is +5. So if you're sumbling around dead drunk, being all horny and wet, you're looking at an additional 8 seconds on every action.

- not so fun fact: haven't checked the new version yet, but in 1.0.1k at least, the Bar Enforcer title seems to be bugged (properly throwing out X amount of people). I dunno why, but the counter doesn't increase when kicking out sleeping people like it should. So don't try to grind that until it's fixed.
Turns out, I got the title lmao. FREELOADING Drinker/Waitress I believe it is. Surprisingly the one title I had never gotten in my 6th playthroughs of the game as she has always been cock desired fucked VERY early (like tipsy early)
 

NekoPi

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Haven't it occurred to you that the summary, anticlimactic ending of the pure run serves a purpose? The extended ending with plenty of sex is called the 'Happy Ending' and that name has also been given for a reason. The devs are telling the players again that they're playing an XXX game, not a silly beat them up romance simulator featuring an ambitious secretary with a hypergamic crush on a characterless royal son. They've given more love and care to Tonkin and Kavika the 69th lv Thug than this generic fair-haired prince, who is even less than an NPC, just an absent dude writing congratulatory letters delivered by his courier. A chaste kiss on the cheek is all that should be expected if you intend to play a porn game like it's Double Dragon with big-tittied protagonist. The original Double Dragon ends with a kiss and a hug, if I remember correctly. In this game, Double Dragon Lady should be a title awarded for getting spitroasted by Lizzardmen 10+ times.
Did you pay attention to the game??? or the steam summary???
 
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NekoPi

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Wasn't that what you wanted though by denying Karryn having sex? The reward fits the playstyle just perfect. Don't tell me you made all this pure effort to see a random princely figure who only appears in the game's intro deflower a woman with boobs larger than her head.
No ending for BOTH routes is very sad. Definitely for the quality of this game. Her happy end is a reskin (which yea is fine but kinda lackluster, love the outfit tho). The True end deserved ATLEAST a CG of her and prince as that is her main goal from the start of the game (well to stay pure for him etc... you can tell she already loved him lol) both endings don't suck. but are very "Could have been done better".

Well, unlike the nobody prisoners, Karryn herself has shown her love for the "princely figure" and since she got so excited over the marriage proposal, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a sex scene between them after they've married.


Good for you if you think it's "perfect" but I don't see a rushed ending as "perfect", my standards aren't that low.
An overall great game doesn't exempt it from negative criticisms.
I agree with you, I do hope they atleast do an update for the ending of the empress route for a small CG. It's rewarding to give Karryn her True end but man, atleast give the player a CG or something
 

NekoPi

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On fucking PRIOSNER MODE TOO! TALK TO ME NICE!!!!! WOOOOOOO!!!!! No Sex, ALL combat. Man the game fucking CHUGGS around 30 waves!
No Sex, only Violence! man these were kinda hard/easy. I got a few tips if anyone wants to give it a go. lol
 

Zarkhy

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But if you trigger than gangbang scene early it interrupts you while you're not drunk enough, and nobody wants to watch you chug booze when you could be chugging cum.
This can be circumvented, though.

IF you have "Deny Internal Ejaculations" activated, the prisoners will never empty out the mug and you can keep drinking and receive a tip for it.

Provided there isn't anything else in your mouth ;)
 

HerrLeutnant

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Soooooo... The empress ending is the marriege one? The happy ending is the slut ending... Then... What's the bad ending about and how to trigger it?
 

HerrLeutnant

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Reaching 0 Order. Nothing special about that ending, it is just Game Over ending.
No visuals on the bad end one? No CG showing Karryn strapped to a pole in the middle of a cellblock?

Also, anyone has CG or whatever showing the "happy" slut ending?
 

Hellrider666

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Hey guys, I'm just wondering on how to transfer saves from earlier build (mine is 1.0.1 c or d something like that) to the newest one please ?

I tried once by transfering only the savefile into the new build game files, but I could'nt load it.

Thanks in advance.
 

NekoPi

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Hey guys, I'm just wondering on how to transfer saves from earlier build (mine is 1.0.1 c or d something like that) to the newest one please ?

I tried once by transfering only the savefile into the new build game files, but I could'nt load it.

Thanks in advance.
Move ONLY the save folder into the new build. Thats about it lmao.
 
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zoomies

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So now that we have v1.0.2 full any idea how long till the cc mod is updated?
I kinda need/want the extra performance of this version offers for lower end PCs.
there is literally a link for it in the first post that tells you what version it works with. go read it.at this point i hope he waits 3 or 4 months to update it, due to all the morons continually asking about it. give him a break he does this for free. relax, shut up and wait. this question has been asked on every page of the last 30 pages. READ!!!!!
 
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madchef

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Did you pay attention to the game??? or the steam summary???
As you don't recall me from previous discussions, it is not me who struggles with paying attention.

The True end deserved ATLEAST a CG of her and prince as that is her main goal from the start of the game (well to stay pure for him etc... you can tell she already loved him lol)
Nope, the main goal of the game is to restore order and discipline in the most lenient prison in the grand empire. The game starts not with a romantic date but a working visit to this correctional facility. Karryn's initial relationship with the Emperor is strictly professional. It is rather the Emperor who's referring to her as 'my beautiful secretary' than the other way around, herself using any terms of endearment. She's only performing her duties as a secretary.

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She's even seriously offended when Yasu makes an innuendo regarding her career as His Majesty's personal assistant. This serves not only to portray her as a total noob when it comes to all things romantic, but also as a conceited snob obsessed with her own professionalism.... who's about to have her mindset rewired. She initially rejects Yasu's idea of her becoming the new Warden ('not proper work for an elite like me!!!') and eventually takes the position when both the men pull a fast one on her arrogance. 'I'm incapable...?', she says. And thus begins the life of Karryn, who grew to fame as the Imperial Secretary...

As for her true feelings towards the Emperor...

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Yep, you're the one not paying attention.

Happy Ending is just as Anticlimatic as the Empress Ending, so dunno what you are talking about.
That's because the lv 5 defeat scene is the apex of debauchery. Plus lower level defeat scenes also raise the bar, so redressed bed scene you can get on Day 1 has not been the most generous slutty reward. They could have rearranged these scenes better and prepare a Happy Ending that would have topped lv 5 defeat orgy.
 

KDaddy99

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I'm sure this has been asked but i haven't found it yet.....is there a way to change the diffculty from wardern to secetary without starting a brand new game?

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