- Jun 21, 2019
- 122
- 288
You do not enjoy this game, other people do. You are in the 1% that do not, the rest do. That's not a counter argument, it's fact man.
View attachment 3045817
You do not enjoy this game, other people do. You are in the 1% that do not, the rest do. That's not a counter argument, it's fact man.
View attachment 3045817
You think grind is a good thing. What is "grinding"? It is doing same thing over and over until you reach a goal. Goal is usually getting your character stats high enough to beat a boss standing in your way. This process sometimes takes hours or even days. Explain to me, in a logical manner, how this is supposed to be a good game design?You listed reasons why YOU don't like the game. Once again, just because you don't like something about a game doesn't make it bad. I don't like random encounters but you don't see me going around telling fans of Pokemon or Final Fantasy VI that those games are shit. Also, fanboy accusations? Where did I say the game's above criticism? I don't think I even said I like this game.
Yes, grinding is an objectively shit game design.I never said those things weren't parts of the game, I just said those things don't make a game bad. Does a game being grindy make it bad?
The games you are referring to use randomized loot drops. Their main feature is loot, not grinding. If you look you can easily find mods for diablo 2 that reduces grinding while increasing loot quality or quantity.No, otherwise OS Runescape, Diablo II, and pretty much every JRPG made before 2000 would be bad when that isn't the case.
And none of those games have a progress erasing feature because you did something wrong without realizing it or without game telling you about it. You can easily get out of a bad situation in those games, because they have clear descriptions so you can predict outcome of any action you do. Meanwhile in KP if you happened to get a lot of bad passives(which have unlocking conditions that you can't even see) your progress will be erased because game quickly spirals into an orgasm loop. Have fun unlocking those skills and edicts again, because according to you this is so fun!Game hides important information? Okay great, so does Cultist Simulator, Kenshi, Morrowind, etc.
In Hades you get your skills/weapons at the start of of the game and new skills all the time so losing the game and starting from beginning isn't bad.Game's based on the player losing and trying again? Oh, you mean like Hades, Dead Cells, and Binding of Isaac?
You can go on but your points are invalid, fact is you are just trying to defend a game you liked. Whether you realize this fact or not doesn't matter.I can go on but I've made my point. None of the things you mentioned make the game bad, they're design choices and they've been a part of great games since forever. You're free to dislike them but that's where it ends.
I can easily find 100's of same type reviews. Fact is, I don't care enough to provide them and I know even if I did you'd ignore them anyway.You've triggered nothing, and you've cherry picked 4 reviews out of 1000's. L. Keep deluding yourself all day man.
You think grind is a good thing. What is "grinding"? It is doing same thing over and over until you reach a goal. Goal is usually getting your character stats high enough to beat a boss standing in your way. This process sometimes takes hours or even days. Explain to me, in a logical manner, how this is supposed to be a good game design?
Yes, grinding is an objectively shit game design.
The games you are referring to use randomized loot drops. Their main feature is loot, not grinding. If you look you can easily find mods for diablo 2 that reduces grinding while increasing loot quality or quantity.
And none of those games have a progress erasing feature because you did something wrong without realizing it or without game telling you about it. You can easily get out of a bad situation in those games, because they have clear descriptions so you can predict outcome of any action you do. Meanwhile in KP if you happened to get a lot of bad passives(which have unlocking conditions that you can't even see) your progress will be erased because game quickly spirals into an orgasm loop. Have fun unlocking those skills and edicts again, because according to you this is so fun!
In Hades you get your skills/weapons at the start of of the game and new skills all the time so losing the game and starting from beginning isn't bad.
In Dead Cells you get your skills/weapons at the start of the game and new skills/weapons all the time so losing the game and starting from beginning isn't bad.
Same goes for Binding of Isaac.
In KP you start with NOTHING. You have to unlock all those skills/edicts AGAIN.
You can go on but your points are invalid, fact is you are just trying to defend a game you liked. Whether you realize this fact or not doesn't matter.
I can easily find 100's of same type reviews. Fact is, I don't care enough to provide them and I know even if I did you'd ignore them anyway.
I present factually true arguments. In return I get responses like yours, memes and "b-but review ratings, man".It's hilarious how he's struggling to keep track of the overwhelming backlash he's getting due to his bad takes lmao
So you have no logical counter argument? Got it.That's cool dude, enjoy your endless crusade against that brickwall, I'm sure you'll really show it who's boss with that personal opinion.
So all you have is an opinion that is 1% against the rest? Got it.I present factually true arguments. In return I get responses like yours, memes and "b-but review ratings, man".
Literally no one has presented an actual counter argument. I see this "backlash" as a win
So you have no logical counter argument? Got it.
Proof?So all you have is an opinion that is 1% against the rest? Got it.
The proof is there, you just can't see it past your delusions. Bye bye.Proof?
Last time I checked KP had 95% positive ratings and 93% of recent reviews are positive(on steam).The proof is there, you just can't see it past your delusions. Bye bye.
what would you think if i say minecraft is bad game?Hades you get your skills/weapons at the start of of the game and new skills all the time so losing the game and starting from beginning isn't bad.
In Dead Cells you get your skills/weapons at the start of the game and new skills/weapons all the time so losing the game and starting from beginning isn't bad.
Same goes for Binding of Isaac.
In KP you start with NOTHING. You have to unlock all those skills/edicts AGAIN.
that'll be to ez and not fun, it's just exciting to join argument 1 vs the worldOh my god guys it's a Debate Bro (or a troll), just ignore him and he'll probably eventually go away
You must be registered to see the links
I haven't played it recently. Last time I've played was ~3 years ago, I'm sure it had a lot of updates since then. So, I don't know if it is good or or bad now.what would you think if i say minecraft is bad game?
Good luck pal, I've been around since 2019.Oh my god guys it's a Debate Bro (or a troll), just ignore him and he'll probably eventually go away
You must be registered to see the links
This "argument" is factually wrong but hey, if you say so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯that'll be to ez and not fun, it's just exciting to join argument 1 vs the world
Like when you say, Cyberpunk had at release great reviews?I present factually true arguments.
Because many people find that fun. I don't know what else to tell you here man. People like shit that you don't, welcome to planet Earth. Enjoy your stay.You think grind is a good thing. What is "grinding"? It is doing same thing over and over until you reach a goal. Goal is usually getting your character stats high enough to beat a boss standing in your way. This process sometimes takes hours or even days. Explain to me, in a logical manner, how this is supposed to be a good game design?
What do you think people do to get that loot? They do that thing you were complaining about earlier, they were doing the same thing over and over to reach their goal. That's literally grinding. Whether it's for levels, or loot, or coins to buy card packs for their ultimate team in FIFA or whatever that game's called these days, it's all grinding and many people fucking love it.The games you are referring to use randomized loot drops. Their main feature is loot, not grinding. If you look you can easily find mods for diablo 2 that reduces grinding while increasing loot quality or quantity.
Uhh no, sorry. I mentioned Diablo 2 that has hardcore mode, a mode that can literally erase tens or even hundreds of hours of progress if you make 1 simple mistake or lose concentration. I'm sure you've heard of it.And none of those games have a progress erasing feature because you did something wrong without realizing it or without game telling you about it. You can easily get out of a bad situation in those games, because they have clear descriptions so you can predict outcome of any action you do. Meanwhile in KP if you happened to get a lot of bad passives(which have unlocking conditions that you can't even see) your progress will be erased because game quickly spirals into an orgasm loop. Have fun unlocking those skills and edicts again, because according to you this is so fun!
This is factually incorrect. In KP you can choose to keep your levels and skills if you want but even if you reset them, you keep all the titles you've unlocked and the passives that come with them. The benefits those provide can be substantial.In Hades you get your skills/weapons at the start of of the game and new skills all the time so losing the game and starting from beginning isn't bad.
In Dead Cells you get your skills/weapons at the start of the game and new skills/weapons all the time so losing the game and starting from beginning isn't bad.
Same goes for Binding of Isaac.
In KP you start with NOTHING. You have to unlock all those skills/edicts AGAIN.
I'm not ignoring a thing you've said. If you came up with any criticism that didn't boil down to, "I didn't like this thing the game did so it's a bad game wah! Stop liking things I like waaah!" then it'd be a different story but you haven't.You can go on but your points are invalid, fact is you are just trying to defend a game you liked. Whether you realize this fact or not doesn't matter.
I can easily find 100's of same type reviews. Fact is, I don't care enough to provide them and I know even if I did you'd ignore them anyway.
Its so funny to see the topic of the thread to be changed drasticallyThis "argument" is factually wrong but hey, if you say so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It is not my fault that people keep getting triggered by facts, they shouldn't feel attacked by facts.
Gee, I wonder which platform's users rightfully review bombed the game on metacric. Meanwhile, on another platform where technical issues were less present:Like when you say, Cyberpunk had at release great reviews?
The PC Version still sits only at a 7.1 on Metacritic and let's not even start on other Platforms like PS4, that are only 3.8.
Why? Because the release reviews weren't great
It can't recover? Fact:for the most part and even now with it getting for the most part only 10s and 9s it can't recover from the early reviews.
These are bold words coming from someone who is lying.But sure, you are a true crusader of facts. Facts that are nothing more than your personal opinion.
never knew we were part of the HOLY WAR of "grinding"War of Karryn's Prison thread
Date: 13th September 2023 - present (1 month and 2 weeks)
Location: Karryn's Prison thread, F95zone.to
Status: Ongoing
Belligerents
Purple_Heart | At least 5 guys | Some dudes just trying to know why their game black screens on start