BruceMcGivern

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Im kinda lost on how updates work since its using exclusively subscriberstar.

what's the usual period of time to wait between updates? just to be clear that i'm playing the lastest version and not an older one?
 

Neriel

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Im kinda lost on how updates work since its using exclusively subscriberstar.

what's the usual period of time to wait between updates? just to be clear that i'm playing the lastest version and not an older one?
Bugfix versions aside, a big update, was so far always around 4 months. Current version is v.6n.2
 

Pretentious Goblin

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Im kinda lost on how updates work since its using exclusively subscriberstar.

what's the usual period of time to wait between updates? just to be clear that i'm playing the lastest version and not an older one?
4-6 months for content updates, though this is followed up by rapid-fire hotfixes until the bugs are ironed out. The 6n.2 in the OP is the latest version.
 

Shinobikun

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Im kinda lost on how updates work since its using exclusively subscriberstar.

what's the usual period of time to wait between updates? just to be clear that i'm playing the lastest version and not an older one?
Judging by the weekly updates, the next update should be in december. Hopefully early, but we'll see.
 

Neo Nocturne

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It actually doesn't really. Once you know how to do it, you can finish all 3 Levels without any Side-Jobs with an income of over 1k each day in 2-3 hours. Just takes a lot of trial and error to get there, at least on Prisoner Mode.
Trial and error? Prisoner Mode is bascially Iron Man mode with a single save. Are you on a different game?

Just in case, we are trying to do a near perfect run keeping Slut level low; getting harassed to a minimum and lowest Corruption level possible. It's easy to get to Level 3 even in Prisoner mode, but not as easy if you are trying to accomplish that with certain conditions. But yes, if you have already figured how to achieve a Level 3 subjugation with less than 10 Corruption, 10 Slut without doing bar waitress job//repair the bar and avoid getting harassed (keeping the history as clean as possible), do tell us how with the details. We really need it.

I was trying to get to lvl 3 without cheating but its too hard and I'm a pro gamer. Well..... hard isn't the right word. It takes too much time. Starting over is a bad idea after you lose at 0 order and keep your lvl. If you keep your lvl, you still have to fight enemies around your lvl and you will only be weaker without your edicts.

The cash you get is really limited even with low order. The waitress is the best way to get money, but you have to spend 40 minutes there and I'm only getting around 900 with my current reputation. So, its possible.... but its kinda dumb. Not to mention the game isn't fully optimized so it can take longer depending on your computer.

The game isn't finish and I expect them to continue to make balance changes. So there is nothing wrong with making balance changes for yourself. For ex, I doubled the income from tips and its still imo a bit too long but I think this is fair and I'm still at lvl 2. For reception, I raised the amount of order you can get slightly. In this case, double is too much.

I used the mod and revert it back almost to the original state. I left some of the mods enabled. I left self save on because I had to start over cause it saved while the game was frozen, and I leaned my lesson. Playing on prison mode atm.

I thought about reducing the damage sexual attacks take on your stamina, but I decided not to because there are items to help with that.
Yeah, I know the game isn't finished and that's why I am trying to do the nearly perfect h-free run. We need to at least know if that is even possible. Assuming this game may have a branch for endings, by testing out these conditions helps the dev to re-balance the game accordingly in case it is impossible to clear the game with such harsh conditions. That's what I have in mind when I was testing this game.

I can barely finish Level 2 in Prisoner mode with just enough Control, but the income nearly crashed after Level 2 Subjugation. It's hard to be a humane warden...as Karryn (yeah, I went with humane Karryn, so she built good facilities for prisoners and guards...INCOME FAILED)
 
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Neo Nocturne

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That's actually true, but the Waitress Job definitely becomes harder if you don't have 0% fatigue. Also whether you're able to keep the desire low at a full bar depends on the your willpower level in the first place. I didn't mention it but I mostly did my shifts after clearing enemies, putting me at 15-25% fatigue. Otherwise its sadly too easy, yes.

For the receptionist job, the desire pretty much doesn't matter, because who cares if Karryn has 100% mouth desire if the pervert still *asks* her whether he can kiss her. And who cares if you have 100% butt desire if you can just shove the goblin away in the first place?

The problem is that willpower doesn't matter in the receptionist job. You lose it anyways doing paper work, so keeping your desires low is impossible after x minutes of work. At that point you *have* to shove the goblins away if you don't want to get groped, which costs stamina. Now you might think 'Hey, you have to decide between spending time and stamina between doing paper work which grants control or keeping the goblins away to remain pure', but that's not even true because the goblins will deal stamina damage once they reach anyways. So just showing the goblins away and not getting a lot of work done becomes the best play, which obviously super boring. Every now and then you're stuck shaking someones hand which will enable a goblin to come closer and strip you, but otherwise there is no exitement.
Finally! I have been doubting myself on the receptionist job issue, it's great to see someone else is coming to the same conclusion.

I think Receptionist mini-game is just a good way to add in more h-scenes. It's not fun unless you enjoy seeing Karryn getting very busy and involved in...party tricks? lol
 

Neriel

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Trial and error? Prisoner Mode is bascially Iron Man mode with a single save. Are you on a different game?

Just in case, we are trying to do a near perfect run keeping Slut level low; getting harassed to a minimum and lowest Corruption level possible. It's easy to get to Level 3 even in Prisoner mode, but not as easy if you are trying to accomplish that with certain conditions. But yes, if you have already figured how to achieve a Level 3 subjugation with less than 10 Corruption, 10 Slut without doing bar waitress job//repair the bar and avoid getting harassed (keeping the history as clean as possible), do tell us how with the details. We really need it.
Yes, Trial and Error. You can start always fresh and try again.

And keeping Corruption and Slut Level below 10 finishing Level 3 Boss, seems unnecassary hard. Even the Reward for beating Level 3 Boss with the lowest Slut Level is nowhere near 10. Now I am not saying that this is impossible, since in my last run I had at the end Slut Level 15 but that is low enough for me. Corruption dunno, that is a Stat I don't care about, since it does nothing so far aside from Blackmail of Nerds that I don't care about. If I would have to make a guess, I would say, around 20 Corruption should be doable. Anything below and we are getting into the once again unnecassary hard in my opinion.
 
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Neo Nocturne

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Yes, Trial and Error. You can start always fresh and try again.

And keeping Corruption and Slut Level below 10 finishing Level 3 Boss, seems unnecassary hard. Even the Reward for beating Level 3 Boss with the lowest Slut Level is nowhere near 10. Now I am not saying that this is impossible, since in my last run I had at the end Slut Level 15 but that is low enough for me. Corruption dunno, that is a Stat I don't care about, since it does nothing so far aside from Blackmail of Nerds that I don't care about. If I would have to make a guess, I would say, around 20 Corruption should be doable. Anything below and we are getting into the once again unnecassary hard in my opinion.
Thanks! I just read the update by Rem, I am guessing they will be doing a fine-tuning soon//once things are settled. I just want to see how far/how hard we can go/try for the virgin end. If the condition is really impossibly harsh, I don't even know whether I will still buy the game in the end.

BTW, I was setting a higher bar for myself & Karryn, trying to be a humane warden, so I did get into that unlikely undoable situation. Thanks for being the pioneer. Salute!
 

Pretentious Goblin

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I think Receptionist mini-game is just a good way to add in more h-scenes. It's not fun unless you enjoy seeing Karryn getting very busy and involved in...party tricks? lol
You're far from alone, others have said the receptionist job is undercooked and unfun compared to waitress. For me, the cum splatters alone ruin it, because believe it or not, I'd rather be looking at Karryn's assets than mostly just goblin jizz. Hm, I wonder how feasible it would be to mod a "wipe off" ability into the job.
 

Neriel

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Thanks! I just read the update by Rem, I am guessing they will be doing a fine-tuning soon//once things are settled. I just want to see how far/how hard we can go/try for the virgin end. If the condition is really impossibly harsh, I don't even know whether I will still buy the game in the end.

BTW, I was setting a higher bar for myself & Karryn, trying to be a humane warden, so I did get into that unlikely undoable situation. Thanks for being the pioneer. Salute!
Well at least for now, Virgin Run is very doable. Even keeping her actually untouched. My Slut Level 15 was just Sadist stuff and guys looking at her/talking to her/getting themselves off, which with time will get you a Passive here and there or the Passive you will always get at the Level 2 Boss. With the new Desire System, it should in theory even be easier to keep her a Virgin, since 1 fight cannot fuck everything up right away. But we will see.
 

Neo Nocturne

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You're far from alone, others have said the receptionist job is undercooked and unfun compared to waitress. For me, the cum splatters alone ruin it, because believe it or not, I'd rather be looking at Karryn's assets than mostly just goblin jizz. Hm, I wonder how feasible it would be to mod a "wipe off" ability into the job.
I wish to see her sign a name for a normal fan (get tipped for $5) or get photo with her (get tipped for $10) as some variations. I don't mind her having female fans asking her to give her services too lol! I did get a lot of female fans wanting to shake her hands in one of my runs. Sad to not see 2 goblins going after Karryn as a team-up. It wil hilarious if the guard comes join in for the fun if they overhear her moaning over the PA. The waitress job, I still can't get her to have sex/offer blowjob/titjob/anal without getting drunk, not sure if that is possible, but yeah, waitress is still fun.

Well at least for now, Virgin Run is very doable. Even keeping her actually untouched. My Slut Level 15 was just Sadist stuff and guys looking at her/talking to her/getting themselves off, which with time will get you a Passive here and there or the Passive you will always get at the Level 2 Boss. With the new Desire System, it should in theory even be easier to keep her a Virgin, since 1 fight cannot fuck everything up right away. But we will see.
Keeping virgin is easy. Not to get any fetishes at all, that's really hard. I really tried hard to keep Karryn completely clean, it's so impossible T-T Willpower falls too fast and things spiral fast. Same, hopefully the re-balanced update will keep her from getting screwed/getting weird fetishes too easily.
 

Pretentious Goblin

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I wish to see her sign a name for a normal fan (get tipped for $5) or get photo with her (get tipped for $10) as some variations. I don't mind her having female fans asking her to give her services too lol! I did get a lot of female fans wanting to shake her hands in one of my runs. Sad to not see 2 goblins going after Karryn as a team-up. It wil hilarious if the guard comes join in for the fun if they overhear her moaning over the PA. The waitress job, I still can't get her to have sex/offer blowjob/titjob/anal without getting drunk, not sure if that is possible, but yeah, waitress is still fun.
Yes, photos would be great for a bit of exhibitionism content, though the game's plot could only allow it to go so far. I'm pretty sure goblin DP in that job is actually doable, I could have sworn I saw a pic of it but haven't played it enough to make it happen. And yeah, you can't do sex acts as a waitress outside of the "bent over the counter" segment. Only fondling, spanking and such. Though it's probably possible to get to that point without actually being drunk if Karryn is slutty enough.
 
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Killknight

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Only interested in learning the way to get to level 3 meeting those criteria without using cheats, I don't need a save where you edit the parameters to get those.
Lel, I've just used pure natural progress, but I see some people like to use cheats, too bad @_@.
 
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