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sifena7986

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I mean, I'm sure with the way they're coding it now, yes, it would require too much work. My issue is that from the offset, the new art assets should have been coded as a swap and not a hard coded replacement (they did it with the other cosmetic toggles). It's extremely common practice to work any potential cosmetic changes into toggles separate from a base model. The issue here is that they seemingly didn't plan for that, so now we're stuck with how things are atm.

I don't fault them since they're a small team and at the of the day it's the dev's choice, but it's at least something for them to keep in mind for any future projects. No point in burning bridges unnecessarily as a dev, imo.
If by common practice in development you refer to "feature toggling", then you might misunderstood its purpose. You make features via toggles, but eventually (after feature is tested and stable) you remove switches, so code won't become too complex, smelly and unsupportable (even in big projects with big teams).

But if your plan is to keep toggle forever as a part of the game arcitecture, it will cost a lot of time, not only during development of this change, but also after, if they decided to add new stuff (it would impact DLCs, bugfixes, mods, etc). I wouldn't choose this approach to support slightly different art style for the whole game. Way too much work for small returns
 
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iluvbewbs

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For those who are trying to run this on Steam deck without buying the game, the best solution is to simply add it as a non-steam game and force its compatibility with proton experimental. You don't need to add it using lutris, and if you do that, then it will simply not run
Thank you.
 

Er0er0

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Bruh, well whatev, keep waiting...... people kept on complaining nonetheless.. do agree that they should keep the game as is and do things new in the sequel..... but by the looks of it, they kept wanting to make a profit out of it... if things kept on going the way it is and still having loyal patrons or whatever, all they need to do is add things and they profit out of it... like maybe they even decide to add new side job or event or whatever... if I were them, I be like "why not? We still got our profit. Hate all you want haters." But still I just hope they are not taking so long.. at this rate, by the time they decided that the game no longer need updates, I would be creepy old man playing hentai games.. well I be honest the only hentai game that kept my interest is karryn's prison, maybe because it updates(even though it take so long) and its variety of mods. And also the modders are geniuses great, they doing it for the people, like me, haha. thank you all modders in advance when you start making the mods when this shit new version (because it took long, not because it is shitty) is release...........? HEY, LOOK AT THAT I WROTE AN ESSAY. WTF. What?! let me bitch too

Edit: and there is a game that i have been waitting to be finished.. subverse.. look it up.. if anybody wants.. the biggest hentai game that i know of.. for people like me haha!
 
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Purple_Heart

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Free is free but... why is it taking so long!? Bruh, well whatev, keep waiting...... people kept on complaining nonetheless.. do agree that they should keep the game as is and do things new in the sequel..... but by the looks of it, they kept wanting to make a profit out of it... if things kept on going the way it is and still having loyal patrons or whatever, all they need to do is add things and they profit out of it... like maybe they even decide to add new side job or event or whatever... if I were them, I be like "why not? We still got our profit. Hate all you want haters." But still I just hope they are not taking so long.. at this rate, by the time they decided that the game no longer need updates, I would be creepy old man playing hentai games.. well I be honest the only hentai game that kept my interest is karryn's prison, maybe because it updates(even though it take so long) and its variety of mods. And also the modders are geniuses great, they doing it for the people, like me, I thank you all modders in advance when you start making the mods when this shit new version (because it took long, not because it is shitty) is release...........? HEY, LOOK AT THAT I WROTE AN ESSAY. WTF. What?! let me bitch too

Edit: and there is a game that i have been waitting to be finished.. subverse.. look it up.. if anybody wants.. the biggest hentai game that i know of.. (that is free)
Subverse isn't free and modders aren't here. You can join discord server of the game and thank them there where they might actually see. But don't be a dumbass and make it obvious you've pirated the game(for example saying things like "it is free").
 
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jav253

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I like the new art. Alot. Her body is filled out in a more consistent way (biggers hips/ass) and is way more emotive. The option to toggle between them seems like a pretty obvious no brainer. Even if it wouldnt work with the newest P-cup DLC or whatever. Maybe enough harrassment will get em to add the feature.
Problem with the new art is they made her hips bigger I assume to look less strange if you use the giant boobs setting. But they didn't change her head so now she has a tiny head.
 

Er0er0

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Aug 4, 2022
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Subverse isn't free and modders aren't here. You can join discord server of the game and thank them there where they might actually see. But don't be a dumbass and make it obvious you've pirated the game(for example saying things like "it is free").
Done edited.. thanks for the heads-up.. I don't want to get swatted.. can i get swatted? Well what the heck.. people! support the devs and don't pirate! Winkx2
 

ThatHero

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If by common practice in development you refer to "feature toggling", then you might misunderstood its purpose. You make features via toggles, but eventually (after feature is tested and stable) you remove switches, so code won't become too complex, smelly and unsupportable (even in big projects with big teams).

But if your plan is to keep toggle forever as a part of the game arcitecture, it will cost a lot of time, not only during development of this change, but also after, if they decided to add new stuff (it would impact DLCs, bugfixes, mods, etc). I wouldn't choose this approach to support slightly different art style for the whole game. Way too much work for small returns
This isn't about a feature that's being beta tested, though. I don't really understand the comparison here for what amounts to a singular character's art overlays. We saw with mods (before they all broke), that you could totally replace Karryn's outfits and swap between them in-game. It really isn't a crazy suggestion for people to have for her to keep the old face if not the old art entirely.

Heck, there are games like Kaiju Princess that not only have animated scenes, but let you mix and match parts of her outfit in scenes. It's really not a reach for people to want something similar.

Game development is very hard, but let's not treat people as if they're being unreasonable asking for something that is pretty normal. If the devs don't want to do it, that's perfectly fine. People should still be able to ask for it, though.
 

Bolkeus

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Aug 5, 2022
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Can anybody tell me why even though I'm at the desire threshold for sex to occur the prisoners just instead opt to do heavy petting and such for like 15 god damn minutes
 
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Neriel

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Can anybody tell me why even though I'm at the desire threshold for sex to occur the prisoners just instead opt to do heavy petting and such for like 15 god damn minutes
Each enemy type has specific things they can start. Prisoners cannot start vaginal sex. They only go for handjobs and rarely blowjobs. Thugs or lizards for example are enemy types that can start vaginal sex
 

Bolkeus

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Each enemy type has specific things they can start. Prisoners cannot start vaginal sex. They only go for handjobs and rarely blowjobs. Thugs or lizards for example are enemy types that can start vaginal sex
Damn is that why the enemies down from nerd never touched Karryn's asshole
 

Memento Mori

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Dec 22, 2018
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Hey all, i got curious. What was the difference in art that is being mentioned? Does anyone have a comparison image?
I might just buy this on steam but the sale ended the day i went there to buy :(

Game is pretty good, worth to spend money on (maybe not full price, though...). Mods made it better but i just wish we could have a will power to lower pleasure too. Like "Concentration" or something. Getting tired and high pleasure makes you completely unable to fight, as when guards get in the room (i'm still with imperial guards though). I have unarmed combat edicts but can't do any damage when fatigued, so it's a free loss.
 

sifena7986

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We saw with mods (before they all broke), that you could totally replace Karryn's outfits and swap between them in-game.
I'm not arguing that it's impossible to do. I'm trying to explain consequences of doing it. Ask yourself, why mods are broken after this or any change? Or imagine if all mods became part of the game, when will next DLC will be released? How many times longer it would take to change all costumes?

If you answered these questions and still call decision of the only dev in the team rediculous... well, I would be disappointed then.
 
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Kwineld

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Oct 13, 2018
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Hello ! I've got this error message and I don't know what to do
I'm new to modding, idk what to change in the files
I use Vortex for my mods management If anyone can help me, it'll be great ! 1711303393948.png
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sifena7986

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Jun 5, 2021
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Reread your initial post, and if you meant to make toggle only for the face and not for all changes in art style that happened, then I assumed wrongly. While it's still would take some extra time, it would be manageable. Especially, with smarter approach during the process (by reusing expressions).
Hopefully, one day we'll see mod that does that
 
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