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Interestingly enough, not all 'offensive' / assertive sex actions will increase Karryn's 'sadism'. You can initiate as many rimjobs and oral sex as you want.
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As an S&M 'enthusiast', I find the S&M aspect fun but quite 'off'. I tried several runs and some searching here and here I am wants to share in case other S&M 'enthusiast' needs a bit help.
M Titles: Softcore Masochist(Have a Masochist level 6 higher than your Sadist level) & Hardcore Masochist(13 higher)
S Titles: Softcore Sadist(Have a Sadist level 5 higher than your Masochist level) & Hardcore Sadist(12 higher)
M Passives that increased M lvl: Spank Marks, Semen Enema Orgasm, Defeated Warden, Dirty Talk Orgasm, Semen Urinal, Crumbling Pride, Defeat After Defeat
not sure: Masochistic Orgasm, Perfect Butt for Spanking
S Passives that increased S lvl: Cock Hunter, Cock Punisher, Fearless
not sure: Sadistic Orgasm
note: I am trying to make a guide for myself(S&M related only) and maybe share here if my 'research' complete. Feel free to help me
M Titles: Softcore Masochist(Have a Masochist level 6 higher than your Sadist level) & Hardcore Masochist(13 higher)
S Titles: Softcore Sadist(Have a Sadist level 5 higher than your Masochist level) & Hardcore Sadist(12 higher)
M Passives that increased M lvl: Spank Marks, Semen Enema Orgasm, Defeated Warden, Dirty Talk Orgasm, Semen Urinal, Crumbling Pride, Defeat After Defeat
not sure: Masochistic Orgasm, Perfect Butt for Spanking
S Passives that increased S lvl: Cock Hunter, Cock Punisher, Fearless
not sure: Sadistic Orgasm
note: I am trying to make a guide for myself(S&M related only) and maybe share here if my 'research' complete. Feel free to help me
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I am not sure if it is possible to obtain a difference of 6 or more between sadistic and masochistic levels without cheating or masochistic starting bonus when playing in Prison Mode. Some of the passives are contradictory if you realise what they are awarded for. One fine example is Fearless, which Karryn receives for subduing 100 prisoners. Doesn't matter if they were well and truly beaten black and blue or satisfied sexually through masochistic rimjobs for example. Thus, you will receive a masochistic passive Eats Ass Naturally as She Breathes and at the same time your successful rimjobs will add to Karryn's win statistics that will grand you the Fearless passive. I have only hit one of her foes once early in my gameplay (as I run out of possible moves) and still have this sadistic passive, although all her battles were won sexually. I even made a couple of thugs cum from excitement they got from slapping her butt! It is not possible to play this game without winning encounters with inmates to restore order, so regardless whether Karryn wins those by force or being a passive fucktoy, she will receive a sadistic level up eventually.M Titles: Softcore Masochist(Have a Masochist level 6 higher than your Sadist level) & Hardcore Masochist(13 higher)
S Titles: Softcore Sadist(Have a Sadist level 5 higher than your Masochist level) & Hardcore Sadist(12 higher)
M Passives that increased M lvl: Spank Marks, Semen Enema Orgasm, Defeated Warden, Dirty Talk Orgasm, Semen Urinal, Crumbling Pride, Defeat After Defeat
not sure: Masochistic Orgasm, Perfect Butt for Spanking
S Passives that increased S lvl: Cock Hunter, Cock Punisher, Fearless
not sure: Sadistic Orgasm
note: I am trying to make a guide for myself(S&M related only) and maybe share here if my 'research' complete. Feel free to help me
Other problematic sadistic passives are related to active participation in most sex act apart from rimjobs and oral sex. As I play an anal-only virgin slut run, it is not possible for me not to engage Karryn's sex partners anally, just to keep them off her pussy. In case of nerds, I just need to occupy them with something asap, so they do not impose sadistic footjobs on her. The best choice is either a masochistic rimjob or a neutral blowjob, but that's not always an option. It is so frustrating to receive sadism up just for these. Also, to make sure you receive a masochistic passive for cum enemas, you need to provide the Warden with a lot of anal sex and more often than not, high butt and cock desires are not enough for this to happen, as certain types of inmates are not interested in anal that much, so in order to maximize your chances Karryn needs to put their cocks in her butt herself, the sadistic bitch.
Increase in sadism for active titjobs and pussy sex is just as silly. Handjobs... For me, that would depend on the way that a handjob is given. If it's just an enthusiastic, happily accommodating handjob then no. However, if it involved edging and orgasm denial for the inmates, meaning bringing them close to ejaculation just to kick their erect cocks in the end, then yes - that's even two levels of sadism up. But since there is no option to disengage from a sex act in any way other than making the head sex mate cum, it is not possible to employ such a combo. Which also could be reworked to make battles more interesting by allowing Karryn to change sex positions, head partners or switch from sex to battle. Of course she would need certain passives/training to be able to do that.
Sorry for bad english. I dont understand how make her loose battle. I just use give up and enemy fuck her and after that victory
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If they all cum (more than once for some inmates like Slimes and sometimes Nerds) before Karryn runs out of energy, then the slut wins. Once she gets the Walking Talking Cock Sleeve passive (IIRC Karryn needs to have had 100 different sexual partners) she can use the Surrender skill to instantly lose all Energy; before that she can burn through it faster using actions like Revitalize, though that will get her back on her feet by restoring Stamina (though she can just Give Up again).
The other maso raising passives I've found:
Dirty Talk Orgasm - for cumming upon hearing a lewd comment. Not sure if it has to be any comment, or a specific humiliating comment and how many orgasms like that she has to experience.
Pleasure of Being Captured - for losing on lv 3 and receiving gangbangs in the Solitary Room. Not sure how many times and not sure if you have to lose the gangbang session as well.
Dirty Talk Orgasm - for cumming upon hearing a lewd comment. Not sure if it has to be any comment, or a specific humiliating comment and how many orgasms like that she has to experience.
Pleasure of Being Captured - for losing on lv 3 and receiving gangbangs in the Solitary Room. Not sure how many times and not sure if you have to lose the gangbang session as well.
I have another problem : I lose on purpose , but after this on 1 level scene with thugs. It always counts as win. So the only option obtain skill that will use all my energy i guess
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Sadly, i alredy pretty far on easy difficulty. I mean dont want to grind all stuff again. Well , i understood whats the problem was at least . Thanks
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I've been gone for a while, any news on the dogeza or was it just a "maybe later" type of idea?
Still just concept art right now. Not sure when it'll be done
Yeah this is why I think the S&M quite 'off', well that is why i rerun several times and now trying to make 'guide' in the first place, for me to understand what developer view on S&M. And yeah, I dont think we can get into the hardcore M yet, because it seems some passives like Fearless unavoidable.
For the titles blank-only virgin title I think that's what NG+ for, because it just makes it harder if you do it with only 1 S&M route
I am currently having an issue on the newest version where whenever I try to play it, it just blackscreens. Theres no loading or anything. Just an empty black box on my screen. And its not because its just taking awhile, I've left it there for minutes and it doesn't change. Making it fullscreen or anything like that doesn't work either.
I've played on older versions of this game fine so its not my pc. Its just this newer version thats not working. I've been looking through this thread and I have yet to see an actual fix to this.
I've played on older versions of this game fine so its not my pc. Its just this newer version thats not working. I've been looking through this thread and I have yet to see an actual fix to this.