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Frozen1

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Karryn can only assume Pleasure Stance when she's involved in a sexual act, handjob at the very least. When not having sex, she has to resort to other methods of not engaging her enemies, the Cautious Stance being the closest equivalent of skipping a turn. It costs energy though and increases her evasion.
Assuming You have unlocked the Pleasure stance skill you don't have to be involved in any sex act to use it, just have no stamina.
 

madchef

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Assuming You have unlocked the Pleasure stance skill you don't have to be involved in any sex act to use it, just have no stamina.
That would be a very convoluted way to skip a (as in one) turn, but yeah, having no stamina and having had at least 30 previous sexual partners allows Karryn to just lie there and enjoy the scenery, without having sex at the moment in the conventional sense. However, the situation of no stamina and accepting this by assuming pleaure stance is a passive invitation to... sex. It becomes quite obvious once Karryn reaches high enough a slut level.
 

ahrimansiah

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let me develop more : I am a fan of virgin run, but I thrive when Karryn's virginity is in danger.
this is why I love the two sidejob. If I am not wary, she can loose it in a single trust.
I would be cool if the inmate could trust inside karryn if she is presenting her butt or her mouth to the hole.
do you think I can mod it or if this is in the game but I missed it ?
this is exactly what i hated about this new so called SIDEJOB, dont take me wrong the quality of sex acts and variety was amazing! but it felt so distanced from base gameplay, first of all its no side job, second there is no failing or defeat style event in it and u can easily leave whenever u want... i really carved more side job with resistance and challenge things for virgin run style and THATS why i love KP if i just wana watch 2D porn and acts there are far better games and movies out there!

i just wish it was some kind of plumbing side job like other side job systems, right now its only for whore style gameplay and EVEN in that there is no reason to do this whatsoever except watching some new arts and positions, it feels like more of an extra special day content added to KP
 

madchef

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let me develop more : I am a fan of virgin run, but I thrive when Karryn's virginity is in danger.
this is why I love the two sidejob. If I am not wary, she can loose it in a single trust.
I would be cool if the inmate could trust inside karryn if she is presenting her butt or her mouth to the hole.
do you think I can mod it or if this is in the game but I missed it ?
That's a big NO from me.

What sets this game apart from other RPGM H-games is the removal of rape in any shape or form. Instead, a complex desire system has been put in place, which means that Karryn will not be engaged in any sexual activity that she does not (secretly or openly) desire.

She may still lose her virginity if the player does not keep her pussy desire in check and there are situations in this game when it's hard, especially during reception job, where access to mental state does not take place every turn. Two goblins behind the desk and a double-cumming visitor and Karryn's pussy is in trouble. Also, she cannot control her desires when masturbating in the office, so once she receives a passive that makes her unable to stop masturbation in the office and ends up with the guards invading, she may have a wet, inviting virgin pussy that will be difficult to cool down before a guard makes his move.

The nature of the gloryhole 'job' is that she is in total control of the act. And that's how gloryholes work in real life. A person sticks their penis through a hole and hopes that someone will find it sexually attractive and do something about it. The cock owner doesn't know who the person on the other side is and how (if ever) they're going to satisfy them. There is very little room for thrusting, so from a standard copulation point of view, the roles are reversed, as in active cowgirl position or active blowjob. The thrust does not come from the loins anatomically connected to the dick, but from the other party. The gloryhole operator is the 'boss' here.
 

madchef

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i just wish it was some kind of plumbing side job like other side job systems, right now its only for whore style gameplay and EVEN in that there is no reason to do this whatsoever except watching some new arts and positions, it feels like more of an extra special day content added to KP
Of course it's a whore style gameplay related activity, as this is a porn game barely pretending it's a dungeon crawler with a hypersexualized heroine as the main protagonist. Do you expect a strip club gig will be appropriate for a 'pure' run?

A woman walks into a cubicle in male toilets, with two holes drilled in walls separating adjacent cubicles. Do you really expect her to be fixing pipes there, I mean real pipes?

Other jobs are also sex-themed and their real raison-d'etre is furthering the sexual corruption of the Warden. You may resist the obvious, but there is no 'pure' version of the mug scene, just as there is no chaste version of goblin shenanigans behind the reception desk. If she fails at both of these side jobs, she's taken to a bar storage, where she can either:

1. Resist the urge to suck dick;
2. Or suck dick.
 

Shinobikun

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Oct 5, 2017
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Please read up about consent. It's pretty clear that the initial Karryn is NOT ok with the prisoner's activity. I am worried about your interpretation and the real-life consequences.

I am fully aware this game is a fantasy, but I'm not sure you are.
Maybe that's just my interpretation of it, but I think the game's mechanic at least try to make it clear that Karryn is repressed pervert when coming to the prison and any sex that does happen is out of her own choice.

Like, when she loses her virginity she doesn't go 'AHH STOP IT' but something along the lines of 'why did I just give my virginity away to some random guy...?'. Note how she says that she gave it away, not that someone took it from her.

Hell, even when she's groped it seems implied that she lets this happen on purpose.

For example, when a prisoner gropes her, no matter what she says, we see her desire going up. Furthermore, she says things like 'I didn't say you could go that far!' etc, implying something along the lines of a prisoner asking 'come one, just let me give them a quick squeeze' and Karryn agreeing to it.

Even when down on the floor, with her weapon kicked away, the prisoners will do nothing but look at her if Karryn doesn't have the required desire. Obviously it must be fully in her control of what she lets happen.

Like, yea the prisoners actions are obviously out of line and everything done would definitely fall under 'sexual harrassement' but the statement 'there is no rape' holds true imo.
 

Xill

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People are talking about Karryn specifically, not real life. In real life people wouldn't take rape so easily as Karryn does. Where she goes like "well that happened, ah well, another day another gangbang" from the moment she steps in there.

Furthermore, these are the two first passives she gets if she gets harassed.

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She starts getting into it from the moment it starts, albeit slowly. Instead of the first passives being something completely different, like having her being scarred for life, it's this.

Karryn is a whore. You know it, she knows it, the prisoners know it, the entire country she's in knows it and even the cat in courtyard knows it.

I mean, you can either turn her into a complete slut or into a monster that gets off on hurting people. (I'm not really aware if there's a different path from those two).

So yeah, she isn't exactly a normal person.

For all the rape that's supposed to be going on in this game it's not remotely heavy imo. If you want a game that involves rape and have it be impactful then you need a game that has dialogue/text that presents that. This game isn't it.
 

Regelious

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In real life,
so many things are just plain wrong in your statement.

"For example, when a prisoner gropes her, no matter what she says" - Do they stop? no!
"Obviously it must be fully in her control of what she lets happen" - uhhm, no! Because if it was she could get up and leave. Instead, because she's out of "stamina" by being beaten down, she can't do anything except being molested.
"statement 'there is no rape' holds true imo" - so you're saying, getting dragged into a room, having dicks waved in front of your face, and getting splooged on is not rape. Not sure you will agree once you're in that situation

Don't misunderstand me, I enjoy the game as much as the next pervert. But your reality is really warped.
go touch some grass
 

Vathris

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The inmates are the opposite of saint and the game plays a lot around Karryn "refusal".
For some of you that may cross the line and you don't feel comfortable (or just not your kink) with that and that's fine.
But don't say that this leads to real life consequences, it's the same argument of "videogame causes violence"
 
May 10, 2020
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Loving the game so far but one thing I would like to see is the nerds go for more then just footjobs and handjobs. Other then that, REALLY well done.
 
Sep 12, 2018
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Lol I get what everyone is saying and their respective points however...
This game was made to show Karryn's slow descent into being a slut if you desire.
As for the rape thing, I get that it may feel that way based on some poor early dialogue choices and terrible rng trapping you into undesirable situations.
But that doesn't change that it's karryn's desire for these things to happen.
This game is still in its Alpha phase so I would give it time till it's in a better state.
 

Shinobikun

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Tbh I've been following Karryn's prison for close to a year now and of all the good games on this site, KP has one of the most consistent devs by far. Every week we get updates talking about exactly what was done. Every update has been on time. Bugs are plenty on release, but the devs spend all day and night debugging for the first week (which is why releases reach version numbers such as 'p').

Just take a look at the current game and remember that developement started not even 2 years ago. The game will be finished later this year and that's a pretty normal developement time for a game like this imo.
 
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