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Yukariin

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I mean on one hand makes me a bit sad, on the other hand I understand it since a lot of devs run into the trap of feature bloating their games and then never finishing them

So setting a goal to finish the game with a set roadmap is refreshing

But on the other hand this game has so much potential, they could do so many more things with the game after they finish it

It is not like Melty's quest where you are done with the story and unlocked all ur outfits and you are set

The whole prison management aspect and how the H -fights are, there are so much potential to add to the game

Seems like a waste if they just wanna be done and move on, especially since they have 4k subscribers on subscribestar in varying tiers from 2 to 10 dollars who probably want more
yeah i completely agree that i'd want them to keep developing the game, but currently there are no plans. butr as someone else said, it'll also depend on how well the game sells, if it's a big hit they will probably at least make DLC.

another aspect i didn't include originally is that i can understand artists and developers wanting to vary their portfolio even if for a breeze of fresh air, it can get tiresome and burn you out to work over many years in the same project.
 
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Something has been bugging me for a while now about the games story. After you beat the 2nd floor the doctor says he's going to help Karryn by doing doctor experiment things (its been some time since I completed/beat it) BUT you can't find him/etc at all. He only shows up briefly at the start of the 4th floor with kind of a janky explanation imo and disappears again. So my question/suggestion is are we going to be able to interact with the doctor?
Which brings me to a couple of other things/suggestions/ideas for the creator/modders to add to the game at some point. And yes Ive read comments as far as plans for the game in regards to time, release, doing it yourself (would if were skilled/able), etc but gonna throw them out here anyways.
1. Have the npc/s that takes Karryn's first reoccur in battle, in bar, visitors centor, bathroom, defeated encounters, etc for time to time.
2. Open/build the infirmary with the doc there. Not sure if this is planned but it still annoys me i cant get more of that heat drug from time to time, or that theirs not a mini game there like the bar, visitor centor, or the up coming strip club.
3. (Wasn't able to unlock edits last build of the game for it but i don't think its there but) Mini game on 2nd floor, either store and/or classroom.
4. 4th floor looks like it was designed /setup for a varitation of a farm and pool mini game, maybe think about that one too.
OK writing this made me realize that the mini games that are in it so far take the stress out of floor progression and add a lot to the game. Partially why this game sets imo above the rest of simular style games, that and combat and themes are good. I know that he doesn't have time to impliment these things etc, and I'm not a modder (though be cool if I could go from zero to hero) but maybe they got ideas/know the ins an outs to make stuff like this happen.
Anyways, my rant or whatever this is is done for now and i hopefulyl got it out of my system. In closing, great game so far just MORE!!! haha. Looking forward to its full release.
I think parts of the game are not touched on purpose. I hope it is the case. We have not seen yasu either. The game is missing the story. LVL4 might have a whole other side. I am desperate to see some bondage content as well. I hope the devs won't just unlock the 5th floor, give the last side job and be done with it. I don't need a dialogue picking 50hour story but some narrative parts between the grind would be nice. I think there won't really be any traditional scenes though I'd love it.
 

madchef

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interesting. a more proactive protagonist means you basically have someone already on the path of corruption.
If we could only abandon this quasi-moralistic stance whereby sexual initiative is corruption, then we might come up with a lot of new, equally exciting ideas. Pure virgin vs. shameless slut is becoming too tired a trope.

Imagine a game, for example, with a female protagonist who is in a meaningful relationship with a nice guy, but there's something lacking in the sex department. A bland, vanilla relationship. On surface, he seems to be satisfied with the way things are, but she is not and believes their fucking could be improved a lot. As he's this archetypal silent type, unable to express his feelings and sexual longings openly, it is up to her to explore their erotic life. So she would start experimenting in bed and get progressively bolder in search of his ultimate kink or kinks. And it would be up to the player to direct her interest in this or that direction. With a wide catalogue of fetishes to explore, the game could be as hot and improper as you want, but there would be no corruption in the sense of immoral motivation of any party. Just a loving, passionate female trying to spice up her and her reluctant/clumsy guy's sex life. They could end up doing things that would make most of H-RPGMaker games blush, yet there would be no mind-breaking, slut-making, demonic scheming and purity protection. I mean they could play chastity games, why not, they could play dungeon'n'dragon style BDSM, even heavy, they could go around swinging and become involved in various forms of sex work, but you get what I mean.

And such game wouldn't have to be a linear, or moderately branching scene collector. The main engine could be a free-style sex simulator module, similar in principle to that which Karryn's Prison or Degrees of Lewdity have. There would be a stat and level up system, so the protagonist doesn't just jump into whatever scenario the player has in mind, but would need to train this or that to be able to deepthroat two guys simultaneously while sitting atop a giant buttplug on stage of a San Francisco night club, you know, the one behind the green door, for example. So there would be in game goals and challenges for players in order to execute fantasies they are looking for.
 

HeadsExplode

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Can someone tell me how many updates are going to be given? I have become rather tired deleting and then downloading the newer version.
No one knows. There's a bunch of bug and cg fixes every patch. 0.9b will be the strip club update, but that will likely introduce several issues ironed out over 10+ patches again.
If that's how you feel just wait for 1.0 to release ... Then wait another week until the hotfixes for that settle down. Then you're probably golden unless DLC does happen.
 

Dr.Jan Itor

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So people, did anyone had equip_slot_load_set_id not defined error. Im getting it 3 updates in a row while going on equip menu.
 

kR1pt0n1t3

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Is there any way to prevent slut levels to increase while fighting?

I'm trying to do a low slut level run and to try and get the best present for each level subjugation.
But, for some reason, I notice that after some time I keep getting after each battle like 2 slut levels but I can't figure out the reason.
Throughout the whole fight, I keep desire low and don't allow them to go above 30 and I always fix clothes when they manage to take them off.

Is it maybe because of sadism or something? I noticed after getting sadism she keeps getting pleasure when hitting enemies. But I never allow pleasure to get high so I don't have to masturbate and get passives through that and so slut level doesn't go up.

Working at the bar doesn't seem to increase slut levels if you keep your desire in check and fix clothes regularly. Also, I don't know if it's a bug, but the pleasure also seems to drop while working at the bar when you play like this. Working at a bar seems to be good this way since I keep increasing my endurance while not getting any negative effects(for trying to do a low slut level run).

Also, I've seen some people recommend leveling either strength, dexterity, or agility. Is it a problem to level up two of them or does it have to be only one? I usually go for dexterity and agility. I reckon if I got for one stat only, dexterity or strength might be the best. The thread is full of all kinds of information so it's kinda hard to filter through.

Is there a wiki maybe with this kind of info or suggestions?
 
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Is there any way to prevent slut levels to increase while fighting?

I'm trying to do a low slut level run and to try and get the best present for each level subjugation.
But, for some reason, I notice that after some time I keep getting after each battle like 2 slut levels but I can't figure out the reason.
Throughout the whole fight, I keep desire low and don't allow them to go above 30 and I always fix clothes when they manage to take them off.

Is it maybe because of sadism or something? I noticed after getting sadism she keeps getting pleasure when hitting enemies. But I never allow pleasure to get high so I don't have to masturbate and get passives through that and so slut level doesn't go up.

Working at the bar doesn't seem to increase slut levels if you keep your desire in check and fix clothes regularly. Also, I don't know if it's a bug, but the pleasure also seems to drop while working at the bar when you play like this. Working at a bar seems to be good this way since I keep increasing my endurance while not getting any negative effects(for trying to do a low slut level run).

Also, I've seen some people recommend leveling either strength, dexterity, or agility. Is it a problem to level up two of them or does it have to be only one? I usually go for dexterity and agility. I reckon if I got for one stat only, dexterity or strength might be the best. The thread is full of all kinds of information so it's kinda hard to filter through.

Is there a wiki maybe with this kind of info or suggestions?
When it comes to Slut Level, every Passive you get, increases your Slut level by 1. So in short, your Slut Level is the amount of Passives you have - your starting ones.

In terms of leveling, honestly, I have done balanced runs, in which all 3 are relatively equal and they worked just fine. Just make sure, that your Mind stat is high enough, since that one is really important.
 

ronadan

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If we could only abandon this quasi-moralistic stance whereby sexual initiative is corruption, then we might come up with a lot of new, equally exciting ideas. Pure virgin vs. shameless slut is becoming too tired a trope.
the sexual initiative is not essentially corruption, but corrupting influence of said behavior is one of the most popular themes of H games. it's not always about rape or mind break. the "corruption" in this case means "changing the view of the person about their sexual life, often towards more hardcore actions". The Last Sovereign is a perfect example of this. yes, the main theme is harem, but there's no immoral motivation in any shape or form. the main drive of the game in this case is the growing love between the protagonist and his lovers.
we also have many other so-called "corruption" games that have no cheating, instead what you are suggesting is implemented in different settings. fleeting Iris has a faithful wife route that transforms the protagonist from a pure virgin to a kinky wife. no cheating, no immorality. tho it's arguably the least played route of that game.

The main engine could be a free-style sex simulator module, similar in principle to that which Karryn's Prison or Degrees of Lewdity have. There would be a stat and level up system, so the protagonist doesn't just jump into whatever scenario the player has in mind, but would need to train this or that to be able to deepthroat two guys simultaneously while sitting atop a giant buttplug on stage of a San Francisco night club, you know, the one behind the green door, for example. So there would be in game goals and challenges for players in order to execute fantasies they are looking for
well you just described most of Noxian Nights. and guess what? that still counts as a corruption game. one of the characters of that game has a bestiality fetish but she's too scared to explore it. part of the game is dedicated to the main protagonist trying to help her execute her fantasy by upgrading her stats, literally. so yeah, when I say "path of corruption" I don't exactly mean something like we have with Karryn's prison
 

kR1pt0n1t3

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When it comes to Slut Level, every Passive you get, increases your Slut level by 1. So in short, your Slut Level is the amount of Passives you have - your starting ones.

In terms of leveling, honestly, I have done balanced runs, in which all 3 are relatively equal and they worked just fine. Just make sure, that your Mind stat is high enough, since that one is really important.
Thanks, didn't know that any passive you get = +1 slut level.

What is considered a high mind stat?

On my latest run on the hardest difficulty, I subjugated the first level and I have it at 37.
 

Neriel

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Thanks, didn't know that any passive you get = +1 slut level.

What is considered a high mind stat?

On my latest run on the hardest difficulty, I subjugated the first level and I have it at 37.
Yeah that is high enough for 1st Floor. Last Prisoner Mode run I did, I had after beating the Level 4 Boss a Mind Stat of 60. It doesn't need to be extremly high just high enough, since the more Mind you have, the stronger Ki buff and suppress Desire is.
 

ronadan

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Is there any way to prevent slut levels to increase while fighting?

Throughout the whole fight, I keep desire low and don't allow them to go above 30 and I always fix clothes when they manage to take them off.

Is it maybe because of sadism or something? I noticed after getting sadism she keeps getting pleasure when hitting enemies. But I never allow pleasure to get high so I don't have to masturbate and get passives through that and so slut level doesn't go up.
yes. sadism is part of the difficulty of pure builds. also we have mechanisms (like talk resist and exhibitionism) that give you passives without you doing anything sexual. pure builds force you to end the game quickly because over time the stacking effects of different passives make it harder and harder to stick to your plan.

for stats, there are many different builds that you can go for and they actually work just fine. if you want to focus on one stat it's fine. strength helps your base dmg, dex gives you more crit dmg, etc. the reason people suggest focusing on one stat is because of limited warden levels. a balanced build mostly works fine, but as you collect more passives and enemies get stronger, you find out that fights become more and more dangerous. because you have a bunch of generic abilities while a strength-focused build can one-shot most of your enemy types.

and no, there's no wiki for this game. at least right now
 

Zil Nalhir

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Yeah that is high enough for 1st Floor. Last Prisoner Mode run I did, I had after beating the Level 4 Boss a Mind Stat of 60. It doesn't need to be extremly high just high enough, since the more Mind you have, the stronger Ki buff and suppress Desire is.
i mostly just run plain slut mode and use sexual attacks as attacks works pretty well when do major sexual damage lol

While im here.... got a Question... when will Prego mod be working again?
 

madchef

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the sexual initiative is not essentially corruption, but corrupting influence of said behavior is one of the most popular themes of H games. it's not always about rape or mind break. the "corruption" in this case means "changing the view of the person about their sexual life, often towards more hardcore actions".
Well, then H-games have corrupted the meaning of the term 'corruption', which has strong immoral connotations. The word's etymology refers to the act of breaking, destroying, marring. I don't think that anyone outside the sphere of H-gamers would call a person getting kinkier as result of gaining sexual experience as being corrupted. There is a moral valuation attached to that, which I find somewhat hypocritical in the context of playing a porn game. And also squeezing a lot of stories into that tight, stifling corset of sexual constraint that can only be loosened by losing, giving up, getting transformed. Hence a lot of players of games mixing combat with sex face a dilemma of whether they want their female PC triumphant and chaste or debauched and defiled.

I will check out the games you mentioned to see if they have the mood I like to see. If I was to point to a game in such a happy 'whore' style, I'd mention Slice of Venture series. Admittedly, the mechanics and logic are not really entertaining, you basically walk from location A to location B to talk to person C and then D on or before or after Day E to unlock scenes, most of which are over the top and not to everyone's taste. And there's also 'The Poor Whore', a cute, short RPGMaker game with a playthrough of less that 1 hour and 7 possible endings. It nevertheless manages to pack a lot of serious kinks, without the PC getting corrupted. She starts as a whore and her dream is to become the most famous whore in history. There's is an element of morality, but it has to do more with which part of the local populace like her more: the elites or the commoners; not morality in general. The NPCs are not nagging her at all - it is her who needs to proposition and it's up to them to decide if she's the right person for the type of sex they have in mind.
 
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