On the second floor there is a room with a lamp, interact with the lamp and it will give you the keys.
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Odd as in, I don't recall Dilan specifically having had a line about expressing surprise to be back at Ayleen's library before (sounds like it was meant to be unintentional, but then I did specify going there to bring the pixies along), that's about it.
To get Piknik's pet option, I think you need to have a submissive/h scene loss to either herself or Verl once, then it becomes available on both her forms (with different reactions). Get to petting brother
Something I've been wondering awhile regarding the diary page, was it Walter whose head Domi saw, or some other student's? I guess it doesn't matter when the important thing is Domi wising up to reality, but then Trent said Dilan had killed others as well, and I'm guessing he wasn't referring to failed pearls.
Also HAIL SERPENTINE, PURPLEHEAD ASCENDANT DIETY OF ALL SHINIES
seriously, what if her rock works
help!
i m blocked in the first fight with vhidna (i have 42 losses and 34 deaths).
I thought you had to lose until you leveled up. Then, seeing that it wasn't working, I came across a giant who gave free levels. I went to level 50, but nothing changed she just hit harder. Even in easy mode, she just had to say "on my feet" and it was over. I always failed the "struggle."
i m blocked in the first fight with vhidna (i have 42 losses and 34 deaths).
I thought you had to lose until you leveled up. Then, seeing that it wasn't working, I came across a giant who gave free levels. I went to level 50, but nothing changed she just hit harder. Even in easy mode, she just had to say "on my feet" and it was over. I always failed the "struggle."
i buy the best armor and weapon. i defeat some low monster but i cant absorb theyr essence (its grey when i go on it). They are usfull only for ingredient for potion.
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I think one of the true "allies" we have is Nalid. We know that hes pretty much related to Dilan in some way. And based of dialogue that hes just a part of Dilan that somehow got split up. Also the new dialogue with Verl it might hint that Nalid is the true "Dilan" (probably also the one who wrote "the boy and the spyral") and retains more knowledge than the Dilan we know.Do we think Dilan will ever get a true ally or would that go against the themes of the game too much?
So far we have option A of being a pawn for Valia, Dominic, Noo etc, just following whatever he is told. And now option B of being Verl's pet.
I guess we have to hold out for John to be the true hero at this point lmao.
It might be too soon but i feel like Hum might also be a ally. We do not know why he wants to make contact with Dilan but he has shown that he can pretty much read Dilan like an open book and so far has done nothing to harm him with that information. Also his disposition is 100.
Also the last true ally we have is John. We have to hold out for a hero to save us from all these entities that wanna hurt Dilan.
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Azulaisbae
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I agree with most of your post but i would like to add this though. I dont trust Ayleen at all. She might look like she barley cares but right after your first meeting it will trigger a switch that makes it so cats spawn in ugly chloa aka she uses them to spy on Dilan. Also Ayleen personaly knows Svelva so im not going off much but based on the tree dialogue, Miki dialogue about the dim hat meddeling with Jailie (i probably misspronounced this name) and katja/bonnie namedropping her. That Svelva is someone you dont want to be associated with. So yeah i dont see Ayleen in a positive light since shes in a amicable enough relationship with Svelva to not be suprised at her coming to her library for a meeting.
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Where is that dialogue from? I cant trigger any post main story stuff with her. Nor can i remember this dialogue from the initial meeting (might have forgotten it).
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I believe it's part of the Peng submission that was broken before the new update.
I can try to trigger it again and get a screenshot.
Try to use Fouslet essence to have Verdeenan Roots. Do it first round of combat and try to stun lock her with a mace
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Certainly an interesting detail of lore. I feel like alot of submission scenes hold some significant lore in them. (im currently plucking apart Ayleen events with mtool and im already finding out some odd stuff).
naah don't worry, i intend that "we need a galley" for the new update cause the new ones aren't there
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Ah. Yea, I didn't add the non-combat scenes from the new update, those would still be missing from the Gallery as of now
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Where are you stuck? Have you tried following the guide on the official wiki?
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It's certainly interesting that the switch triggers after Ayleen, I wasn't aware of that - but aren't the cats usually more linked to the Covert? There's a bunch of cats hanging on the hidden room at Damna's and IIRC some of their dialogue outside that still suggest it (but admittedly I can't recall a specific example)
The shadiest part of Ayleen IMO is that she had that one book. Svelva certainly isn't portrayed in a good light but realistically we know very little of 'em (do we even know if they're male or female? Not even the wiki clarifies).
In regards to Nalid, the fact that his name is literally just Dilan but in reverse makes it fairly obvious that he's some reflection of him. Between the gravestones, the book, the mindsink events and especially Person it's fairly clear that something happened in Dilan's past that we (and possibly him) know very little about.
Also while we're at it, while Person seems to dislike Dilan, his events mostly seem to be trying to reveal some kind of truth to him, so in a roundabout way he seems a bit more trustable than the usual Katalist character?
MINDER IS THE TRUE ALLY BTW MINDER SUPREMACY
Finally as for Hum, yeaaahh I don't know what to make of him. The disposition does say a lot and he technically does nothing wrong. But like he pretty much upfront tells you that he's hiding shit. He knew our name, so he's probably linked to the aforementioned mysterious past.
A couple more possible allies I forgot
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Im currently writing a huge loredrop on pretty much the identity of Svelva, nalid, dilan and bonnie. So maby that would help people with their theories etc. I have been able to confirm some findings after replaying the game and have seen some huge pieces of information that i have seen noone mention at all.
Based on pureley the event trigger some of the cats belong to ayleen (the one infront of the school for example). Also if you mess around with mtool you can see that ayleen has some weird dialogue that i cant seem to trigger normally. Maby its submission route only. The question of who is "she" in her dialogue options is her mentor. Im not 100% confident if the she is refering to svelva but i wouldnt rule it out. To be fair im fairly certain Ayleen and Vhidna are students of Svelva or atleast know her personally. The book on Dilan isnt that weird since Ayleen has a huge collection of random books. For all we know Dilan (nalid) was famous person in the past and has made multiple books. Theres also a event trigger that will only happen after the first improvement aka for a future update that shows that ayleen knows about demonology and souls and the sketchy aspects of it. It happens when you have the old book from the pawn shop in sentinel city in your inventory.
Also on the Hum part. Him knowing Dilans name and history is pretty much linked to him being able to read Dilans mind somehow. Idk if they have a past together but all the information he has on the current state of Dilan is based on him just reading Dilan's mind. For example he mentions that it is hard for Dilan to learn that there are alot of different things he did not know about at first. To paraphrase he said first learning about succubi then magicians and now even incubi shows that he knows the timeline of events somehow.