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jegg890

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you guys need to start realizing that the game isnt a porn game, its a game that has porn in it, and really, the porn is just there so the devs can get enough money to not have to worry about making commissions or other monetary stuff. the devs have already stated that the porn is besides the actual game and it will always be, adding a buff or healing to fucking downed enemies is just forcing the porn onto people, and some people are not going to be watching kincaid sucking cock every time they want to heal.
 

Felkesste

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you guys need to start realizing that the game isnt a porn game, its a game that has porn in it, and really, the porn is just there so the devs can get enough money to not have to worry about making commissions or other monetary stuff. the devs have already stated that the porn is besides the actual game and it will always be, adding a buff or healing to fucking downed enemies is just forcing the porn onto people, and some people are not going to be watching kincaid sucking cock every time they want to heal.
And that's totally fine if that's the case. For me, that raises the question though, "Why would I play this particular platformer over the absolute mountain of alternatives that are already there for me to play, finished, polished, and going for cheap on various platforms and devices?" Mario, Metroid, Mega Man, Castlevania, Sonic, Kirby, Shantae, Shovel Knight- and each of those examples is full of sequels and spin-offs that offer different flavors of gameplay, all of which are complete, released, and don't involve waiting for new updates or trying to balance satisfying gameplay and "distracting erotic elements that interrupt the gameplay with repetitive animations." It's easier for me to appreciate the game when I don't view it as a game with porn in it, and choose to view it as an erotic game. It has less pressure to compete that way, it's not up against every platformer on the market, it's only up against erotic platformers, and only really outright fails if it doesn't provide a stimulating experience for someone, somewhere out there.

That isn't to say that I want healing to be tied into fooling around with downed enemies, I'm not sure that'd be fun, or exciting for anybody? I'd probably suggest things like having erotic grapples that let you deal slow, steady damage to enemies, and require you to input key sequences to keep the grapple going or further it's animation and damage along. Another option for winning fights, entirely optional. I like dumb little freedoms, though. I get more of a kick out of a game letting you decide what, if anything, you want to wear on your adventure, than I do out of repeating animations. So my opinions and ideas might only appeal to me, for all I know.

I'unno, this is all just my perspective. If I chose an erotic game- or a game with erotic elements tucked away in it- over a more serious, finished, feature-complete game of the same genre, it'd likely be because I'm there for the lewds. I'm not concerned as much with the gameplay and mechanics as much as I am with satisfying lewd bits, at that point. If pressured to view it as a more serious game, I don't think it's something I'd play in my free-time, given all the alternatives I'd probably have more fun with, eheh.. That holds true for a lot of lewd games, though. Not going to want to hang around in early-access hell waiting for the game to take shape, knowing that it might never do so, when I could instead be playing completed games of that same genre.
 
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And that's totally fine if that's the case. For me, that raises the question though, "Why would I play this particular platformer over the absolute mountain of alternatives that are already there for me to play, finished, polished, and going for cheap on various platforms and devices?" Mario, Metroid, Mega Man, Castlevania, Sonic, Kirby, Shantae, Shovel Knight- and each of those examples is full of sequels and spin-offs that offer different flavors of gameplay, all of which are complete, released, and don't involve waiting for new updates or trying to balance satisfying gameplay and "distracting erotic elements that interrupt the gameplay with repetitive animations." It's easier for me to appreciate the game when I don't view it as a game with porn in it, and choose to view it as an erotic game. It has less pressure to compete that way, it's not up against every platformer on the market, it's only up against erotic platformers, and only really outright fails if it doesn't provide a stimulating experience for someone, somewhere out there.

That isn't to say that I want healing to be tied into fooling around with downed enemies, I'm not sure that'd be fun, or exciting for anybody? I'd probably suggest things like having erotic grapples that let you deal slow, steady damage to enemies, and require you to input key sequences to keep the grapple going or further it's animation and damage along. Another option for winning fights, entirely optional. I like dumb little freedoms, though. I get more of a kick out of a game letting you decide what, if anything, you want to wear on your adventure, than I do out of repeating animations. So my opinions and ideas might only appeal to me, for all I know.

I'unno, this is all just my perspective. If I chose an erotic game- or a game with erotic elements tucked away in it- over a more serious, finished, feature-complete game of the same genre, it'd likely be because I'm there for the lewds. I'm not concerned as much with the gameplay and mechanics as much as I am with satisfying lewd bits, at that point. If pressured to view it as a more serious game, I don't think it's something I'd play in my free-time, given all the alternatives I'd probably have more fun with, eheh.. That holds true for a lot of lewd games, though. Not going to want to hang around in early-access hell waiting for the game to take shape, knowing that it might never do so, when I could instead be playing completed games of that same genre.
...So you want a gallery viewer
 
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Felkesste

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...So you want a gallery viewer
Naaah. If all I were after were images and animations, there are image hosting sites by the dozens that could provide that. From my perspective, what games offer is interactivity, your choices and your actions lead to different outcomes, you're more involved and ideally, you get to feel like you're actually on that journey. I'm not there for a challenge to prove myself worthy of anything, challenges can be satisfying if they're contributing in some way to the fun, but they rarely do. Even in games that are popular specifically for their difficulty, the challenge is there to stonewall you until you overcome it. It isn't adding to the experience, it's denying you anything more from the experience until you can get past that point. I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone happy about being killed just before a checkpoint, or excited to replay a level again for the tenth time after ten consecutive failures. The challenge in those circumstances is not making the experience more fun for them. Even when they get past it, they're usually just relieved it's over and they can put the game down to do something more fun or relaxing for a while. Making things more complicated or difficult won't somehow make it more fun.

And that's the point of a game at the end of the day, isn't it? To be fun? Otherwise, these wouldn't be video games, they'd be video chores, or video trials.

That isn't to say you're wrong for finding fun in challenge. I've never personally gotten any joy out of winning a boss fight, whether it was easy or difficult, it was just a means to an end, another wall in my way to something else I wanted. Every extra step beyond the first one or two challenges to reach that goal tends to get increasingly tedious, because I can't find the fun in slapping enemies around, again, like I've been doing for the entire game up to that point, so I can finally get the pants I wanted, or finally build the kind of structure I had in mind. If you enjoy that sort of thing, more power to you. Just, y'know, that isn't something I'd look for in erotic games, as from a developing perspective, you choose to make an erotic game to bring on very different emotions and satisfy very different fantasies. The cravings that lead you to pick up and play a game like Dark Souls, and the cravings that lead you to an erotic game should be pretty different. It's also not wrong to say that if the game hands everything to you on a silver platter, you don't really have much of a reason to play it, it's gotten boring for the opposite reason at that point. Nothing to strive for, and no sense of accomplishment or engagement. It's just a toy or a sandbox at that point. But that CAN be made fun, too. People Playground gets by on offering that kind of experience with sprinklings of secrets, and various features to experiment with, from what I've seen.

TLDR, I like immersion, and I like choice and freedom. My favorite games are the kind that offer the freedom to make foolish decisions, just for the fun of it. Difficulty is an illusion in my mind, especially when you have save/load, and infinite retries, eventually, you'll beat them, you only need to win once, that boss is the underdog here, fighting for his life against inevitability. Besides, how many dragons can you slay before you stop feeling like a hero, and start feeling like the dragon-cleanup-crew, the 'heroic janitorial service'..? Sooner or later, everyone gets sick of the big bad boss of the week routine, and all their overly dramatic entrances will bring out of you is a heavy sigh as you prepare for yet another fight. "Sure wish people would keep this place tidy, not leave so many messes behind for me to clean up."
 

TakosMilGrau

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This thread is stuck in a timeloop, there's no other explanation.
It's been literal months, guys, and the discussion didn't evolve in any regard, nor did it change the dev's minds. Some people like the old build, some people like the newer builds, we all get it. What needed to be said for both sides has already been said. Please stop this mess, ffs.
 
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Drama, Drama, Drama.
Look, either you like the game or not, leave the Dev's alone, they are working on these kinds of projects for days on end. writing the scripts, creating art and animations. its all takes time and effort.
Games like Kincaid, Crisis Point and many other MetroidVania hentai games will have one goal and that's making the game at its most enjoyable for everyone. rather be through gameplay and story or providing the best lewd/sex scenes in the game.
Let the Dev's do their work and just support them via Patreon or twitter, or some form media they are using. give them feedback and look for bugs/glitches. that's it. play the game and have a general good time with it.
I don't understand why people need to fight over this.
 
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At the end of it all, all I was doing was giving feedback. I'm pretty sure the dev actually took note on some of the things I said based on their replies. None of my posts had any intention of attacking or harassing the dev or to instigate any fights. I've already said my peace about the newer builds and was trying to give a suggestion to improve them.
 

Freezewood369

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cierto, perdon por la discucion, en si me habia sentido afectado por los comentarios de ''dragonsix6969'' y ''shiro arachne'' y para no responderles mal entonces les explique las cosas de buena manera bien detalladas, es mas... escribo tambien en español y lo tradusco con el google traductor porque parece que a ''shiro arachne'' le molesta mi forma erronea de comunicarme en ingles y como que tambien me e sentido avergonzado por no saber comunicarme bien en ingles asi que no lo culpo, sin embargo no discuto mas, ya le deje mi idea a cookiedraggy y ahora me queda esperar.

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true, sorry for the discussion, I had felt affected by the comments of ''dragonsix6969'' and ''shiro arachne'' and in order not to respond badly then I explained things in a good and detailed way, what's more... I also write in Spanish and I translate it with google translator because it seems that "shiro arachne" is bothered by my wrong way of communicating in English and because I also felt ashamed for not knowing how to communicate well in English so I don't blame him However, I don't argue anymore, I already left my idea to cookiedraggy and now I have to wait.
 

LArcEnL1

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Jun 1, 2018
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Drama, Drama, Drama.
Look, either you like the game or not, leave the Dev's alone, they are working on these kinds of projects for days on end. writing the scripts, creating art and animations. its all takes time and effort.
Games like Kincaid, Crisis Point and many other MetroidVania hentai games will have one goal and that's making the game at its most enjoyable for everyone. rather be through gameplay and story or providing the best lewd/sex scenes in the game.
Let the Dev's do their work and just support them via Patreon or twitter, or some form media they are using. give them feedback and look for bugs/glitches. that's it. play the game and have a general good time with it.
I don't understand why people need to fight over this.
I don't think is correct of some of you shooting down people for leaving a feedback, if done in a civil way.
Maybe people already argued violently about this. But if someone leave a heart felt feed-back, escpecially if new to the conversation, it is uncalled for to crack him down just because he said something similar already said by other users.
It would be nonsensical to allow only praise and nothing else.
It's not like we now hate Cookiedraggy just beacuse we shared whit them a different opinon abut an aspect of the game.

We leaved our feadback and we'll be on our merry way. Wishing the best for the game, whichever shape it will end up to be.
 

wobbiso

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Jan 26, 2018
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[in response to this wall of drama]

In reality, this is what "feedback" does:
1. Enters creator's mind
2. 10% chance of mildly changing creator's opinion
3. 100% chance of ruining the fun out of creativity using other people's opinions as instructions. Like a robot.
4. Overall get a worse off game because the fun was killed out of creating it.
5. If the game was made for perfection, he'd build Call of Duty: Highschool Cheerleader Warfare

If the developer truly wants to know critical ideas so he can make enough money to put food on his table, google is there for that.
If the developer wants to show off to get some human connection in world that is completely void of it to get some wind in his sails:

Roses are red, violets are blue, leave your ideas out of it, this game is a gem without you.
 
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Porn_Jesus

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Usually people invest a lot of time into drama if their daily routine isn't stressful enough to keep them occupied. Might be a good time to change that or is the point of no return already crossed?
 

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