Heliophorus

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I remember the noxian nights updates every month..... those were the days. Now people defend the releases saying its not a porn game and more like a "real" rpg. People are mad if they think most people would play this for its story over for example kotor, jade empire, Persona 4 . Nah im(like most of you)here for the mindbreak and corruption into an orc cumdump. Story always comes in second priority wise.
They both are of equal priority to me. And corruption is meh. I don't think writing is bottleneck here though we can't be sure about that either.
 

TheHighborne

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Patreons have voted to cede any form of oversight which was very generous, people back then have warned that this would remove any significant outside pressure on the developers and this is exactly what happened. Even the most disciplined people can only reach their maximum potential when they have a healthy amount of pressure and order in their work environment. It's a delicate balancing act between no pressure at all and burn-out, but either approach is detrimental to your performance and state of mind.
They could have set a bimonthly release schedule with regular status updates if they felt so strongly about the monthly update cycle, but just completely abandoning all accountability, feedback and regular interaction was a cop out instead of actually being motivated by a genuine desire to see this game blossom. I can sympathize with that because we all like to take the easy way out, we all know the constant struggle against your lazy self, but that's also why I know that you often need to push yourself or need to be pushed a bit to truly achieve remarkable things. Either way, I'm fine with waiting, but definitely believe that people voted not only against their own interest but also against the best interest of the developer back when the decision against a clearly defined public development schedule was made.
 

UncleVT

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Is that the rule? No one is allowed to criticize a game developer unless they give them money before the release of the game in question?
You can criticize the gameplay, the art, the story or whatever. But complain the time of development especially when the game grows and becomes more complex and you don't contribute anything is not fair.
 

Porn_Jesus

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You can criticize the gameplay, the art, the story or whatever. But complain the time of development especially when the game grows and becomes more complex and you don't contribute anything is not fair.
It was more like a feeling than pointing a finger at them and calling it a "stalling for time cuz money too gud" claim. That is a thing for Kabier and Jasonafex. :HeyGuys:
 

RC-1138 Boss

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You can criticize the gameplay, the art, the story or whatever. But complain the time of development especially when the game grows and becomes more complex and you don't contribute anything is not fair.
Pretty much. I have no problem with people making constructive criticism but acting entitled, like the people doing the game owe you something, is a big NO for me.
 

xoxunga

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So apparently my saves got corrupted as I get an exception error every time I try to load them. I also get an exception error when changing the console var to True. Does anyone know what Im doing wrong?
 

UncleVT

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So apparently my saves got corrupted as I get an exception error every time I try to load them. I also get an exception error when changing the console var to True. Does anyone know what Im doing wrong?
You're using old saves. Needs to restart.
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clades

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You can criticize the gameplay, the art, the story or whatever. But complain the time of development especially when the game grows and becomes more complex and you don't contribute anything is not fair.
Normally I might agree with you, but once you start asking for monthly donations then the speed of development becomes a point worth criticizing. Just like people can criticize the amount of new content and support that comes with a subscription based game.
 

RC-1138 Boss

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Normally I might agree with you, but once you start asking for monthly donations then the speed of development becomes a point worth criticizing. Just like people can criticize the amount of new content and support that comes with a subscription based game.
Because it is a donation to help support the game development not a subscription service or a "buy your own developer" payment.

Also their patrons are content with the way the game is being made, they choose quality content over faster (and smaller) updates when the devs asked.
So why should a bunch of randos who get everything without have to even donate a dime get a free pass to moan about how slow or lazy the developers are or even worse accusing them of scamming money?
 

TheMagister

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Because it is a donation to help support the game development not a subscription service or a "buy your own developer" payment.

Also their patrons are content with the way the game is being made, they choose quality content over faster (and smaller) updates when the devs asked.
So why should a bunch of randos who get everything without have to even donate a dime get a free pass to moan about how slow or lazy the developers are or even worse accusing them of scamming money?
But are their patreons still satisfied with it? I seem to remember Sierra also stating in that initial poll that development wouldn't be dragged out THAT much longer than usual, they just wouldn't force themselves to put something out on a monthly basis.

I would be curious to see the results of a poll like that if they would hold it again now tbh.
 

Emperor_Arcturus

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After looking through their patreon, no one's been complaining about the time between releases or that the updates are taking too long, so it seems like those who are patrons of theirs are happy with how things are working, or at least aren't vocally upset about it.
 

Heliophorus

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I don't see a point in arguing over release times. Sure, I would prefer that updates were released once a month or so but patrons voted for longer release times so that's what we get. Personally I just give them money on the month of the release, if you do that then amount of content for release seems satisfying enough.
 

Bridget_The_Nun

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I find it funny that anyone that complains,demands or otherwise placate said demand for content on the internet paid or otherwise lacks the ability to either maintain any measure of composure or sense after 2 posts.

Sometimes I wonder if the internet was better off only to be used as by people that had the ability to setup networks.
 
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zarqupang

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Have not played this in a long time but if it's what game i think it is the orc shaman needs to be killed bured dig up burned then stabed in the throught for being a whine little bitch. Just because he lost i mean come on lose with some dinaty
 

bas

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Please stop with the name-calling, it's against the rules.

Please stop with the "how x generation deals with y problem", it's off topic.

Just FYI - the basis of this site is to freely share and discuss games. Anyone is welcome to do so whether they're a paying Patreon or not, so long as they follow the rules.

Thanks
 
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