Others Kings Fall [v0.2.7.11] [Bastard Games]

[Rifty]

Is there any extractor or convertor for this game's DAT file?

 

[HaseoOfDeath]

Is there any extractor or convertor for this game's DAT file?

Don't think there is since we're the only devs that use it/make the game using this system/engine

 

[Larry2000]

It's used as a plot device to basically punish Leonore for not accepting the Duality. The game asks if you want it to stop/continue before it goes much harder but overall it's teasing and groping. After that point, Leonore's story will follow through to her revenge of Sam if you're on the Lovers Route.



I thought about that but since Beastiality is just a dog, it's not really like he's actively trying to steal/Corrupt. It's just a dog and that fact will keep getting brought up since Asuna and Leonore are still under the effects of the Suggestion. Their focus is entirely on the Hero outside the story so having both Lovers/Corruption states intwertwine appeals to me personally on a writing level. But I'll look into it. Forbidden Card content is something I wanted accessible to everyone despite of the themes being used as DC content.

I like writing with freedom. Pulling that back means I have to write one way and one way only.

Wait, just to be clear, you're saying that there is that one of the Love Interests was raped while the MC was "dead" and you consider that avoidable? I'm confused here.

Also, Love Interests are fucking a dog? And it's unavoidable? Please tell me I read all this info wrong.

Edit: Here's the quote from bobdillan

Also the dialogue is worded as if Sam has his way with her completely... not that it was just teasing or groping, but that she was well and truly his cumrag. But without explicit detail, but heavily implied.

 

[bobdillan]

Wait, just to be clear, you're saying that there is that one of the Love Interests was raped while the MC was "dead" and you consider that avoidable? I'm confused here.

Also, Love Interests are fucking a dog? And it's unavoidable? Please tell me I read all this info wrong.

Edit: Here's the quote from bobdillan

The bestiality act itself is avoidable, but you have to opt out, instead of opting in like you do with loli content.

So gonna give you a scenario, so it makes more sense (not a rant):

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---End of Scenario---

Hopefully that explains everything.

Basically: Beast is avoidable, some NTR is not avoidable, but there is TMI on both of those things and you can't really play vanilla as a result. Which honestly sucks because I was enjoying the game side of things XD

Mini-rant inbound!

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The basic point:
The other genres and themes bleed wayy too much into everything that you can't really avoid it, and there is going to be something you dislike/hate as a result of simply not being into that content. Which may or may not ruin your experience. (I was able to tolerate it myself until the dog thing... that instantly killed my interest in like all the LIs besides 2.)

 

[Larry2000]

Thanks for being so thorough! Yeah, that sounds like a MASSIVE oversight from the Dev. Hopefully they can make them separate. Who thought it was a good idea to keep hardcore kinds in the "Lovers route?"

You've answered my questions except for the two below:

HaseoOfDeath Don't you know that bestiality is a major hardcore fetish? These things shouldn't even be available or suggested in a wholesome/romantic path. I'm confused by the inclusion.

Basically you've been spending hours playing the romance route, avoiding the content you hate, then have the unavoidable bits of NTR. they annoy you a bit, but it isn't too hardcore, so you keep going, but if you like SAO at all... then you gonna hate Asuna's route (I don't watch SAO... and still whole time i was thinking she was a whore for jumping dick at the first sign of trouble, despite it being the romance route).

As for the NTR, it is on the same character that opens up the dog content. Apparently it is only groping... but the dialogue implies wayyy more than that (and it lasted for like 3 months... so logical thinking of your brain doesn't help either).

Asuna? The girl on the banner is the NTR target? She jumps on another dick? I thought NTR was only for ONE girl? Is it for more than one? I figured it was only for this Leonore character?

 

[bobdillan]

HaseoOfDeath Don't you know that bestiality is a major hardcore fetish? These things shouldn't even be available or suggested in a wholesome/romantic path. I'm confused by the inclusion.



Asuna? The girl on the banner is the NTR target? She jumps on another dick? I thought NTR was only for ONE girl? Is it for more than one? I figured it was only for this Leonore character?

Well she jumps off a dick to MCs in no time flat. It's asuna from Sword art online (2nd preview image). She ditches Kirito for MC over something stupid. (and has NTR route on yourself depending no your choices).

Obviously not accurate to the source material. (cause well... she would never ditch kirito over something so petty). But well yeah.

What's funny is the game also has Orihime from bleach... and well if you know that source material that is even less likely (realistically she would rather die than not be with Ichigo, hence why my go to is, make the MCs from source female in the parody XD So you avoid the stupidity of the character acting nothing like they actually would).

 

[Larry2000]

Well she jumps off a dick to MCs in no time flat. It's asuna from Sword art online (2nd preview image). She ditches Kirito for MC over something stupid. (and has NTR route on yourself depending no your choices).

Obviously not accurate to the source material. (cause well... she would never ditch kirito over something so petty). But well yeah.

What's funny is the game also has Orihime from bleach... and well if you know that source material that is even less likely (realistically she would rather die than not be with Ichigo, hence why my go to is, make the MCs from source female in the parody XD So you avoid the stupidity of the character acting nothing like they actually would).

So basically all the main girls (or at least the ones I like) have a path
Thank for answering that. Avoidable or not, it still kinda kills the LI for me. Peace!

 

[bobdillan]

So basically all the main girls (or at least the ones I like) have a path
Thank for answering that. Avoidable or not, it still kinda kills the LI for me. Peace!

O yeah, if you looking for a game where there are LIs that are only for MC no matter the path you take.. this ain't it chief.

Can only think of like 1 LI that has MC only content... and they locked behind the loli card. (although doubt it will stay that way... they will probably get beast content too.... cause of the logic used for it on the "Romance" route).

 

[baka]

don't talk BS.
everything is choices. Haseo also answered before that u get a warning for it.
what we can do is look into it and fix the quest so it gets invisible when u are not in that route.
but if u are unable to click "no" when asked, we will look into a way so its "harder" to get into that content.

I mean, people are different, if we just think about u and remove all choices others will not like it.
so what to do? create a game without choices with only love-route and nothing else?
most "fetishes" are asked by members if they can be added in-game. and to avoid conflicts we create choices.
BUT theres always BUGS. and Haseo will look into it again and see if theres something to fix.

or as I mentioned create a new card that contain that fetish. Haseo will decide what to do about it.

we have love-only members are they are sensible about it. and we try to accommodate them as best possible.
and they give us feedback and help with BUGS. and its also our motto to give choice of love and corr.
apart from that "story" with Leonore (that is not NTR) is just a situation to make the MC rescue her. otherwise there should be 0% NTR content after that. and we do not call MC stealing a girl for NTR. most people that plays love-route games don't have problems with that at all.

 

[HaseoOfDeath]

Wait, just to be clear, you're saying that there is that one of the Love Interests was raped while the MC was "dead" and you consider that avoidable? I'm confused here.

Also, Love Interests are fucking a dog? And it's unavoidable? Please tell me I read all this info wrong.

Edit: Here's the quote from bobdillan

Beast Content is non-canon, there's a choice at the very start of the content so you YOU are in charge of viewing it or not.

Thanks for being so thorough! Yeah, that sounds like a MASSIVE oversight from the Dev. Hopefully they can make them separate. Who thought it was a good idea to keep hardcore kinds in the "Lovers route?"

You've answered my questions except for the two below:

HaseoOfDeath Don't you know that bestiality is a major hardcore fetish? These things shouldn't even be available or suggested in a wholesome/romantic path. I'm confused by the inclusion.



Asuna? The girl on the banner is the NTR target? She jumps on another dick? I thought NTR was only for ONE girl? Is it for more than one? I figured it was only for this Leonore character?

You need the Forbidden Card before anything else and YOU the player have to select if you want to view the Beastiality content on Lovers OR Corruption. It's not canon, it's to add said Beast content, and it's overall inclusion is because if I remove it, people complain that they cannot view it on Lovers Routes. I'll look at it but so far, I've made it so YOU have to be in charge if you want it to view it or not. If you pick No, you never see it and the choice never comes back. It's not my fault if you chose Yes to the beast content but then regret it later on.

I also added a Exit with this last update. You are once again given authority to continue the Beast Content or Remove it just like that first choice. If you regret the choice, not up to me which I why I presented the Yes or No BEFORE you even get 1 single sex scene.

Also Asuna is only an NTR target if you Choose Corruption. She breaks up with Kirito early on and if you wish to keep Asuna to yourself, pick Lovers. Asuna has NO STEALING content nor will she have it on Lovers Route.

Well she jumps off a dick to MCs in no time flat. It's asuna from Sword art online (2nd preview image). She ditches Kirito for MC over something stupid. (and has NTR route on yourself depending no your choices).

Obviously not accurate to the source material. (cause well... she would never ditch kirito over something so petty). But well yeah.

What's funny is the game also has Orihime from bleach... and well if you know that source material that is even less likely (realistically she would rather die than not be with Ichigo, hence why my go to is, make the MCs from source female in the parody XD So you avoid the stupidity of the character acting nothing like they actually would).

Eh, this is splitting hairs. Crossover characters are written with the Lore somewhat intact but there is no "Jumping on dick in no time flat." Asuna took months before she was able to jump on the Hero's dick and she refused actual sex until weeks afterwards. For Orihime, this is the same. She also takes months to accept her feelings for someone else.

Plus who plays porn games to only be told "Sorry, I'm saving myself for someone else?" You might as well just not even include them as a potential LI.

O yeah, if you looking for a game where there are LIs that are only for MC no matter the path you take.. this ain't it chief.

Can only think of like 1 LI that has MC only content... and they locked behind the loli card. (although doubt it will stay that way... they will probably get beast content too.... cause of the logic used for it on the "Romance" route).

And I ask you not spread misinformation. As of this next update, I've made Leonore much easier to stomach and the choice for her and Sam to come in much earlier. I've even made it canon so you can be content that you will skip over all the previous older scenes entirely.

Maya, Camila, Athena, Ai, Mai Twins, Admin, Leafa, Maria, Mina, Ming, Rixxa, etc, etc, etc.

All of these women are 100% loyal to the MC in their Lovers Route. There isn't any sharing, NTR, or gang content once you choose Lovers. I have always respected the Choices a player makes in King's Fall ESPECIALLIY the Beast content because the game WARNS you before you even see one piece of writing for it. If you picked to see the Beast content that's on YOU bro. I did not force you hand, I detailed what the content would be like, and I warned you ahead of time. If you regret your choice, start a new game, use Skips or Relationship Stamps, and go back to that Choice and say No.

I leave it as Lovers or Corruption because that's the story I wish to tell. If you're on Lovers and do NOT wish to share any LI's with Beastialiaty Content, Say NO. The game is not forcing you to say Yes even though you think it is. And again, this content is not Canon. You miss no story or content if you say No

 

[Larry2000]

Beast Content is non-canon, there's a choice at the very start of the content so you YOU are in charge of viewing it or not.



You need the Forbidden Card before anything else and YOU the player have to select if you want to view the Beastiality content on Lovers OR Corruption. It's not canon, it's to add said Beast content, and it's overall inclusion is because if I remove it, people complain that they cannot view it on Lovers Routes. I'll look at it but so far, I've made it so YOU have to be in charge if you want it to view it or not. If you pick No, you never see it and the choice never comes back. It's not my fault if you chose Yes to the beast content but then regret it later on.

I also added a Exit with this last update. You are once again given authority to continue the Beast Content or Remove it just like that first choice. If you regret the choice, not up to me which I why I presented the Yes or No BEFORE you even get 1 single sex scene.

Also Asuna is only an NTR target if you Choose Corruption. She breaks up with Kirito early on and if you wish to keep Asuna to yourself, pick Lovers. Asuna has NO STEALING content nor will she have it on Lovers Route.



Eh, this is splitting hairs. Crossover characters are written with the Lore somewhat intact but there is no "Jumping on dick in no time flat." Asuna took months before she was able to jump on the Hero's dick and she refused actual sex until weeks afterwards. For Orihime, this is the same. She also takes months to accept her feelings for someone else.

Plus who plays porn games to only be told "Sorry, I'm saving myself for someone else?" You might as well just not even include them as a potential LI.



And I ask you not spread misinformation. As of this next update, I've made Leonore much easier to stomach and the choice for her and Sam to come in much earlier. I've even made it canon so you can be content that you will skip over all the previous older scenes entirely.

Maya, Camila, Athena, Ai, Mai Twins, Admin, Leafa, Maria, Mina, Ming, Rixxa, etc, etc, etc.

All of these women are 100% loyal to the MC in their Lovers Route. There isn't any sharing, NTR, or gang content once you choose Lovers. I have always respected the Choices a player makes in King's Fall ESPECIALLIY the Beast content because the game WARNS you before you even see one piece of writing for it. If you picked to see the Beast content that's on YOU bro. I did not force you hand, I detailed what the content would be like, and I warned you ahead of time. If you regret your choice, start a new game, use Skips or Relationship Stamps, and go back to that Choice and say No.

I leave it as Lovers or Corruption because that's the story I wish to tell. If you're on Lovers and do NOT wish to share any LI's with Beastialiaty Content, Say NO. The game is not forcing you to say Yes even though you think it is. And again, this content is not Canon. You miss no story or content if you say No

Hey, thanks for taking the time of explaining your game and why you do it. I get that you want the lovers path for non-bad scenarios, which I respect, but how much NTR content is it in the game? Does every girl have it? For example, most games lock that kind of content to maybe 1 or 2 girls max, are you saying every girl just has an arbitrary NTR path? I initially figured En Tee Argh would only for 1 girl, but if it's more, which ones?

Thanks again, I know this isn't exactly a point you wish would get attention, but for some people it matters. For example, the 3 letter tag gives me a bad vibe over all. Call it what you will, but having a game be Half Wholesome content Half NTR is a big clash to the vibe of the game even if I'm in control of the content.

Basically I'm asking, how much content will be Vanilla and how much will be NTR? Vanilla 90%, NTR 10%? 50%/50%
And how much is currently in the game?

Have a fantastic day and good luck!

 

[HaseoOfDeath]

Hey, thanks for taking the time of explaining your game and why you do it. I get that you want the lovers path for non-bad scenarios, which I respect, but how much NTR content is it in the game? Does every girl have it? For example, most games lock that kind of content to maybe 1 or 2 girls max, are you saying every girl just has an arbitrary NTR path? I initially figured En Tee Argh would only for 1 girl, but if it's more, which ones?

Thanks again, I know this isn't exactly a point you wish would get attention, but for some people it matters. For example, the 3 letter tag gives me a bad vibe over all. Call it what you will, but having a game be Half Wholesome content Half NTR is a big clash to the vibe of the game even if I'm in control of the content.

Basically I'm asking, how much content will be Vanilla and how much will be NTR? Vanilla 90%, NTR 10%? 50%/50%
And how much is currently in the game?

Have a fantastic day and good luck!

There is only 1 character that can be stolen from you and you need to choose it as a Route. The rest of the NTR is Corruption only where the Hero is whoring out his women for Political and Monetary gain. He's very much sharing his prizes and if they stray too far, he dominates them back into his corner.

Leonore, Asuna, Leafa, Maya, Camila, Sophia, and Ayan are the only NPC's with Sharing content and again you NEED to pick Corruption.

If you're on Lovers with ANY character, they will never be shared or stolen unless you strictly want them too and again, not every character will even have an option for it.

As for Vanilla vs Corruption, there is vastly more Vanilla than Corruption and that's by design. Lovers is where most players live in so you will for sure get more scenes that way. Plus certain character have NO Corruption Routes at all. ivana, Danika, and Astilda all have Lovers only content so you can for sure expect nothing but a Loving/Lovers focused content with them.

 

[Larry2000]

There is only 1 character that can be stolen from you and you need to choose it as a Route. The rest of the NTR is Corruption only where the Hero is whoring out his women for Political and Monetary gain. He's very much sharing his prizes and if they stray too far, he dominates them back into his corner.

Leonore, Asuna, Leafa, Maya, Camila, Sophia, and Ayan are the only NPC's with Sharing content and again you NEED to pick Corruption.

If you're on Lovers with ANY character, they will never be shared or stolen unless you strictly want them too and again, not every character will even have an option for it.

As for Vanilla vs Corruption, there is vastly more Vanilla than Corruption and that's by design. Lovers is where most players live in so you will for sure get more scenes that way. Plus certain character have NO Corruption Routes at all. ivana, Danika, and Astilda all have Lovers only content so you can for sure expect nothing but a Loving/Lovers focused content with them.

Thanks for the answer! I really appreciate the transparency and I always will even if I don't like answer. You didn't answer my question on percentages though. If the content is less 20% I can somehow justify it. Any more than that and I'm out. Unfortunately, the fact that every main girl is a sharable puts a bad taste in my mouth. Not even one girl is exclusive which is not my cup of tea.

I also notice from your last comment that you let your Patrons decide your fetishes, which is not my favorite system, but you do you

If I misunderstood something, please correct me. I'm not here to start beef, I just wanted clarification. Bar the percentage question and the no exclusive LI question, I've basically got my answer. Since you were transparent with me and you wish to know why I'm so wary of NTR content I'll put the reason in a spoiler below to not be off topic:

Spoiler: Reason for my Avoidance

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[HaseoOfDeath]

Thanks for the answer! I really appreciate the transparency and I always will even if I don't like answer. You didn't answer my question on percentages though. If the content is less 20% I can somehow justify it. Any more than that and I'm out. Unfortunately, the fact that every main girl is a sharable puts a bad taste in my mouth. Not even one girl is exclusive which is not my cup of tea.

I also notice from your last comment that you let your Patrons decide your fetishes, which is not my favorite system, but you do you

If I misunderstood something, please correct me. I'm not here to start beef, I just wanted clarification. Bar the percentage question and the no exclusive LI question, I've basically got my answer. Since you were transparent with me and you wish to know why I'm so wary of NTR content I'll put the reason in a spoiler below to not be off topic:

Spoiler: Reason for my Avoidance

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Well with this next update, you can now skip 99% of the NTR entirely. The only NTR I'm keeping as part of the 1% is the MC stealing wives/girlfriends from other men but there's choices there about how it works and if you wish to actually cuck them or just wait for the pair to break up.

As for the percentage it'ls probably going to be 30% Sharing and 70% Vanilla. Again, once you begin the Lovers Route, you're locked into a Bride type ending where you and the girl are going to end up with Marriage and possible kids. There is no sharing, NTR, or anything like it.

If you choose Corruption, it's on a character to character basis but even then a lot of the focus is the Hero break/dominating/Corruption the characters until they're dancing in his hand. Characters like Ming or Athena also have Hero only Corruption Routes where he won't be sharing them with anyone and they will straight up refuse to touch anyone else. Every character is unique that way

 

[HaseoOfDeath]

Thanks for the answer! I really appreciate the transparency and I always will even if I don't like answer. You didn't answer my question on percentages though. If the content is less 20% I can somehow justify it. Any more than that and I'm out. Unfortunately, the fact that every main girl is a sharable puts a bad taste in my mouth. Not even one girl is exclusive which is not my cup of tea.

I also notice from your last comment that you let your Patrons decide your fetishes, which is not my favorite system, but you do you

If I misunderstood something, please correct me. I'm not here to start beef, I just wanted clarification. Bar the percentage question and the no exclusive LI question, I've basically got my answer. Since you were transparent with me and you wish to know why I'm so wary of NTR content I'll put the reason in a spoiler below to not be off topic:

Spoiler: Reason for my Avoidance

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But also to add to my post, most players are ONLY Lovers or Corruption. I don't have to account for if someone is half and half because there is no point. Sure there are Bugs but overall, the game is very tightly written than even if you saw a Corruption Scene, your main Lovers Only playthrough isn't affected by it. There are so many variables and switches ready that I'm in complete control over what you see and how.

If you pick Lovers Only for every character, you will never see sharing or NTR (Unless you're actively cucking other men in the world). You basically HAVE to choose Corruption to even see it once much less have an entire character derailed by it.

 

[baka]

the game gives u choices. theres no life on its own where u can not control it. if u wish love, u get love. sure theres story, drama, conflicts etc, part of the story, but the choice of going love or corr its up to u.
so, even if there where 90% corruption, the 10% love would be the only thing u see. the 90% would never be showed or even talked about, its a "different reality" that don't happen at all in your play.
but, as Haseo already wrote, love is the dominant part. so contents u get tons. and remember, this game is huge. theres thousands of CG combination and millions of words. its not the usual tiny-game where people complain that a fetish is taking "time" for the "love" routes.
but if its unbearable that theres content made for corruption (that u will never see) than its best u just skip the game. u should not feel bad about it, it should be fun.

this last update (I have a counter tool to check the game and heres the result)

-282 unique NPC and 309 Interactive Map Objects.
-202 SD CG (4030 Variations)
-439 EVT CG (3830 Variations)
-322 Map Locations (Including Shops and Houses)
-130 Monsters to kill (12 Mid Bosses and 8 Major Bosses)
-1719 Items (1123 Drops, 816 Shops/Gacha, 272 Missions)
-115 Music Tracks.
-223 Quests (Split into 1702 Quest Parts)

 

[bobdillan]

Beast Content is non-canon, there's a choice at the very start of the content so you YOU are in charge of viewing it or not.



You need the Forbidden Card before anything else and YOU the player have to select if you want to view the Beastiality content on Lovers OR Corruption. It's not canon, it's to add said Beast content, and it's overall inclusion is because if I remove it, people complain that they cannot view it on Lovers Routes. I'll look at it but so far, I've made it so YOU have to be in charge if you want it to view it or not. If you pick No, you never see it and the choice never comes back. It's not my fault if you chose Yes to the beast content but then regret it later on.

I also added a Exit with this last update. You are once again given authority to continue the Beast Content or Remove it just like that first choice. If you regret the choice, not up to me which I why I presented the Yes or No BEFORE you even get 1 single sex scene.

Also Asuna is only an NTR target if you Choose Corruption. She breaks up with Kirito early on and if you wish to keep Asuna to yourself, pick Lovers. Asuna has NO STEALING content nor will she have it on Lovers Route.

Eh, this is splitting hairs. Crossover characters are written with the Lore somewhat intact but there is no "Jumping on dick in no time flat." Asuna took months before she was able to jump on the Hero's dick and she refused actual sex until weeks afterwards. For Orihime, this is the same. She also takes months to accept her feelings for someone else.

Plus who plays porn games to only be told "Sorry, I'm saving myself for someone else?" You might as well just not even include them as a potential LI.

I used "jumping on another dick in no time flat." more figuratively than literally, cause she did jump to another dudes arms both physically and emotionally almost instantly.

Also... given who they are based on... they would never logically have other feelings to accept. hence my point of changing the canon OBVIOUSLY so the player knows they are simply a proper parody.
Making the OG MC a female is a great way to do it too, since you now have another LI

It is also about respecting the source material more, cause most fans of what you are parodying won't like content that disrepcects/ruins/destroys the thing they like about it in the first place. (there is a reason most Kagyua parodies here, don't have love is war fans... because it is all NTR on the main MC from a show all about their loving and loyal relationship, and it beingwholesome).

And I ask you not spread misinformation. As of this next update, I've made Leonore much easier to stomach and the choice for her and Sam to come in much earlier. I've even made it canon so you can be content that you will skip over all the previous older scenes entirely.

While I do understand your concern over misinformation, this is currently how it is, so it isn't misinformation.
Having said that changing when it happens isn't the issue... it is that it happens and degree it happens. :| like if you playing a lovers route... your don't want NTR that went full sexual... well you don't want any NTR, but you seem set on having it.

honestly, I don't get why you have it happen at all during the time MC is gone... you already did the whole drive her to MCs arm thing before he was temporarily gone. IMO should be only something on the corruption route from that initial point on.

Maya, Camila, Athena, Ai, Mai Twins, Admin, Leafa, Maria, Mina, Ming, Rixxa, etc, etc, etc.

All of these women are 100% loyal to the MC in their Lovers Route. There isn't any sharing, NTR, or gang content once you choose Lovers. I have always respected the Choices a player makes in King's Fall ESPECIALLIY the Beast content because the game WARNS you before you even see one piece of writing for it. If you picked to see the Beast content that's on YOU bro. I did not force you hand, I detailed what the content would be like, and I warned you ahead of time. If you regret your choice, start a new game, use Skips or Relationship Stamps, and go back to that Choice and say No.

edit: To preface the following, I wrote the reply besides the later important edit, before knowing that it is locked behind loli card. (to which I highly suggest, give it's own card, with a funny password suggestion too).

I don't mean to be rude, but you contradict yourself here, you say they are 100% loyal to MC on lovers route, and then there isn't any sharing.... yet on that same route you have beast content... which is both not 100% loyal, and is sharing...
In fact is is more extreme than sharing because it is with a dog.... (if players don't want to share with a human.. they certainly don't want to share with a dog).

Being 100% loyal means the idea of being with someone other than MC is repulsive to them.

Also if you can, please re-read my comments, cause I explicitly state that I DIDN'T CHOOSE IT, it's about how it is presented, and the TMI factor.

You can't realistically expect anyone to believe that the LIs are 100% loyal and love MC, when at the same time you basically go "Hey here's this quest, which will stick around on your quest list if you reject it, where these same LIs are going to be more than ecstatic to fuck this dog, and be shared with it, so the dog can fuck them while you're out."
On the lovers route...

hence my suggestion to make it a card, because it being presented that way MAKES IT CANNON, since you make it a thing the LIs are more than willing to do, and it is MC's choice that stops them, not the LIs choice, so it is now within their personality to do such things on the lovers route by it being something MC i.e. the player, has to stop from happening.

Where as a card, means the player has to go out of their way to get it to happen.
Presentation matters.

I leave it as Lovers or Corruption because that's the story I wish to tell. If you're on Lovers and do NOT wish to share any LI's with Beastialiaty Content, Say NO. The game is not forcing you to say Yes even though you think it is. And again, this content is not Canon. You miss no story or content if you say No

You say it isn't canon, but given the way you have done it, it is.... and effects the LIs personalities as you know make it part of them on the lovers route, just that the player stops it (as i mentioned above).

Also... as mentioned, you contradict yourself, as you said above "There isn't any sharing.... once you choose lovers." yet you have just started "If you're on lovers and do NOT wish to share any LI's..."
You can't have it both ways, there is either no sharing, or there is.

What the game IS forcing on the player, is that IN canon, the LIs WOULD fuck the dog, and likely already want to, BECAUSE of how you implemented the choice.

As it is something the MC/player stops from happening, not something they induce to happen. (again, presentation matters).

IMPORTANT EDIT: just read this part: "You need the Forbidden Card before anything else and YOU the player have to select if you want to view the Beastiality content on Lovers OR Corruption."

I would suggest making it two cards, because it is presented and stated that it is the Loli card... sooo yeah. (and you get people who'd want one and not the other... like myself man wants petite, but it always gets labelled as loli, although sometimes the art does go loli so label still belongs).

Which would making my whole issue irrelevant btw, since the whole "Player has to cause it to happen" buy purchasing the card, would be met.
And will correct myself, it isn't canon on the main game cause of the card, but is still canon on the any playthrough that enables loli, because it enables both as a result.
And well, there is no hint you are enabling both... even the code for the card suggests as much. "LEWDTHELOLI".....

So would suggest adding a new card, call it the "Cursed Card" and the code be "RELEASETHEHOUND"

Would solve pretty much all the issues mentioned in regards to the beast content. (besides the whole no sharing, but still has sharing point... you kinda can't have no sharing on a route, but then have choice of sharing, it is a binary issue, it either has it, or doesn't, although it does limit it to the beast card... so a non-issue really, since the contradiction would ONLY happen when beast content is enabled).

 

[HaseoOfDeath]

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I've changed how it works without having to rewrite anything. The netx update, you basically have to volunteer to activate the Beast content with Frederick after obtaining the Card. Every player is now forced to say Yes twice before the content even activates.

No 2nd Card, 2nd Password, or anything that complicates things. You can say Yes or No to Frederick and proceed from there with a new Variable.

If you do not want the Beast content, saying No completely wipes the content from your Save.

 

[bobdillan]

I've changed how it works without having to rewrite anything. The netx update, you basically have to volunteer to activate the Beast content with Frederick after obtaining the Card. Every player is now forced to say Yes twice before the content even activates.

No 2nd Card, 2nd Password, or anything that complicates things. You can say Yes or No to Frederick and proceed from there with a new Variable.

If you do not want the Beast content, saying No completely wipes the content from your Save.

Yeah, that works too, I just thought the suggestion of "RELEASETHEHOUND" was funny

Will that remove the persisting quest as well?

 

[HaseoOfDeath]

Yeah, that works too, I just thought the suggestion of "RELEASETHEHOUND" was funny

Will that remove the persisting quest as well?

Too many passwords would complicate things for us since we're on the downlow for Patreon, otherwise i would've used your suggestion lol.

And yeah, I deleted that first quest from the Tracker completely. Your save will autodrop it from Ongoing when the new update drops