Others Kings Fall [v0.2.7.5c] [Bastard Games]

[HaseoOfDeath]

Hey fellas been a long time since i last played the game (chapter 1 of kerning just released back then) so i thought i'll hop back in and check out the new content. However i hit an annoying roadblock right at the start. I got 2.6.2 version, everything worked as was said in game (with gameplay tips etc), but just one little tiny ANNOYING thing. Renka doesnt spawn for me I must have grinded like 3h in real time for her to spawn in the advertised spot

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, i have killed almost 4k stumps and still no sight of her. Is she blocked behind some quest? Main storyline? The quest tracker just said Lvl 9. I progressed to just starting henesys/no Rien done yet, but im lvl 58 (with safety medal for supposed easy time). Can some1 help explain to me how to spawn her? I unlocked wanderers in Lith Harbor already, and killed Little Dragon or Flying Dragon a few times, w/e his name is ;p Just in case i got a problem in files, i'll attack the save file. I honestly dont want any boost or anything, just checking what's wrong
PS. Sorry for the wall of text, im kinda aggitated -.-

We're looking through the code because it seems your fresh save is auto leveling Renka even though you have yet to actually interact with her.

Once we figure it out, we'll ask you for your current save and we can apply a fix. At least you can focus on other contet for the mean time.

 

[baka]

u right, something is not working. its the "medal of safety" that made her not spawn.
will fix it tomorrow and release a .exe
So ignore her for now. do her quests tomorrow.

 

[Periah250]

alright ill try to reproduce the error and give exactly what i was doing, ill try to get the error to so i can give you it in exact words, sadly im not the most tech literate of guys.

Edit:

alright took me about 5 minutes, in the scene recollection area if you go through different scenes and just rapidly click to get through them, took me like 10-15 scenes to recreate it, the game will crash.

for me at least it looks to be a memory error, my laptop isnt the highest of end pcs so i doubt i have the best memory so maybe it's an issue of lower end specs?

the error verbatim is

maple.x

Run-time error '7':

Out of memory

 

[baka]

bibol2110,
Periah250
and everyone else. Updated the engine. (need 2.6.2c to work)
- Renka should now show up correctly.
- Added Hardware Safe mode

so, in settings change to hardware safe or software.
this mode will reset the buffer-memory after each "mission" u read. that means, the asset loaded when u read the scene, all those CG/Event pictures gets removed. hopefully.

I tried to create out of memory but I could watch so many scenes that I got bored. but I have 4GB memory.
hopefully this can be useful! let me know.
if not, theres something else going on, I will try to investigate further.

also, Periah250
can u run the gpu-info and tell me the result. its to check total memory of gpu + bitmapsize.

 

[sanshisan]

I realized that Oz isn't in the recollection area even if you use the unlock. Did you guys remove her?

 

[baka]

oz is a sugarbaby. Haseo decided theres no point since u can view the sex-scenes by going to her.

 

[HaseoOfDeath]

I realized that Oz isn't in the recollection area even if you use the unlock. Did you guys remove her?

What baka said. Sugar Baby's end up being Gallery's all by themselves so it would only bloat the game size if we added all those sex scenes.

Plus, I wanted to make every playthrough unique so the Sugar Babies will always display content just for your specific playthrough.

 

[bibol2110]

Thanks for the fast work Haseo and Baka. I'll redownload 2.6.2c and update to patch d, since my progress was barely started ill go for a new save, and this time try without safety medal i'm lvling too fast for my liking ^^ weird huh?

 

[Periah250]

bibol2110,
Periah250
and everyone else. Updated the engine. (need 2.6.2c to work)
- Renka should now show up correctly.
- Added Hardware Safe mode

so, in settings change to hardware safe or software.
this mode will reset the buffer-memory after each "mission" u read. that means, the asset loaded when u read the scene, all those CG/Event pictures gets removed. hopefully.

I tried to create out of memory but I could watch so many scenes that I got bored. but I have 4GB memory.
hopefully this can be useful! let me know.
if not, theres something else going on, I will try to investigate further.

also, Periah250
can u run the gpu-info and tell me the result. its to check total memory of gpu + bitmapsize.

my gpu is 1,9 gigs nothing steller. also whats a bitmap?

 

[baka]

its the maximum size the gpu can handle.
so if it say 8192 it means that it can handle a 8192x8192 picture but not bigger.

ok. my nuc computer can also handle 1.9GB and I dont get memory errors.
what about bitmapsize?

 

[doomngloom]

What baka said. Sugar Baby's end up being Gallery's all by themselves so it would only bloat the game size if we added all those sex scenes.

Plus, I wanted to make every playthrough unique so the Sugar Babies will always display content just for your specific playthrough.

So, you can't just have multiple places open the same scene data, you have to have the scene data repeated in multiple places? That's quite annoying.
I suppose that makes it unlikely that most of the donation tinWorld Events will be in the gallery. Could we at least get them set to be re-viewable where they show up, like the sugar baby scenes are?
Also, Oz apparently didn't get the memo, as quite a few of her repeatable scenes eventually disappear from her menu. Namely everything before sex went poof around the time I made that last house choice on romance route.

Edit: Just got around to unlocking the monster sack shop. Considering the monsters in the sacks don't seem to respawn, it might be a good idea to make it a more normal shop, like the general stores or such, to make it easier to buy the sacks in bulk. Buying 100 of each of the available sacks, 1 at a time per second, is a tad annoying. Don't know how difficult such a change would be in this engine, though.

Edit: Also, there appears to be something off about the lvl20-30 bags. I have had a couple times when opening that bag I get a "Run-time error '9': Subscript out of range." error, and several where windows pops up a 'this program is not responding and needs to be shut down' error. Plus, the last time I got the crash, with a windows error, and tried to open the game again, I loaded my char and straight away got hit with that subscript error, and crashed back out. rather makes it clear it's not a disguised memory issue, but an issue with the item. it doesn't always hit, but when it does it is annoying.

 

[Periah250]

its the maximum size the gpu can handle.
so if it say 8192 it means that it can handle a 8192x8192 picture but not bigger.

ok. my nuc computer can also handle 1.9GB and I dont get memory errors.
what about bitmapsize?

im not even sure how to find the bitmap, anytime i try to google it it gives me unrelated info. the links you already had were tagged as viruses.

 

[baka]

Periah250
I included a program for that. check the previous message. GPU-Info.exe its called.
it tells the amount of GPU-memory, bitmapsize and if webp is installed.

 

[Periah250]

Periah250
I included a program for that. check the previous message. GPU-Info.exe its called.
it tells the amount of GPU-memory, bitmapsize and if webp is installed.

my pc violently rejects that download.

 

[baka]

yeah. its windows defense. u need to allow it to download. its false positive.

You must be registered to see the links

I have another tool that "only" checks for bitmapsize
but the GPU-Info is better.

 

[HaseoOfDeath]

So, you can't just have multiple places open the same scene data, you have to have the scene data repeated in multiple places? That's quite annoying.
I suppose that makes it unlikely that most of the donation tinWorld Events will be in the gallery. Could we at least get them set to be re-viewable where they show up, like the sugar baby scenes are?
Also, Oz apparently didn't get the memo, as quite a few of her repeatable scenes eventually disappear from her menu. Namely everything before sex went poof around the time I made that last house choice on romance route.

Edit: Just got around to unlocking the monster sack shop. Considering the monsters in the sacks don't seem to respawn, it might be a good idea to make it a more normal shop, like the general stores or such, to make it easier to buy the sacks in bulk. Buying 100 of each of the available sacks, at at a time per second, is a tad annoying. Don't know how difficult such a change would be in this engine, though.

Edit: Also, there appears to be something off about the lvl20-30 bags. I have had a couple times when opening that bag I get a "Run-time error '9': Subscript out of range." error, and several where windows pops up a 'this program is not responding and needs to be shut down' error. Plus, the last time I got the crash, with a windows error, and tried to open the game again, I loaded my char and straight away got hit with that subscript error, and crashed back out. rather makes it clear it's not a disguised memory issue, but an issue with the item. it doesn't always hit, but when it does it is annoying.

Well a bunch of those scenes are just describing kissing, fingering, etc but there isn't any art for them. Anything with actual artwork like sex, BJ's, etc SHOULD be set to repeat endlessly. If one of which did vanish, let me know and I'll fix it.

As for the Sacks I'll look into making it a Bulk Purchase

 

[Periah250]

yeah. its windows defense. u need to allow it to download. its false positive.

You must be registered to see the links

I have another tool that "only" checks for bitmapsize
but the GPU-Info is better.

Maximum BitmapSize GPU: 16384
MonitorByWindow: 65537
MonitorFromPoint: 65537
Resolution: 0x0 - 1536x864 taskvisible: False

no idea if thats good or bad.

 

[Periah250]

Well a bunch of those scenes are just describing kissing, fingering, etc but there isn't any art for them. Anything with actual artwork like sex, BJ's, etc SHOULD be set to repeat endlessly. If one of which did vanish, let me know and I'll fix it.

As for the Sacks I'll look into making it a Bulk Purchase

is it difficult making this game with one hand?

 

[baka]

Periah250
it seems u have a computer similar to my nuc. I have 1.8GB/16384 but I dont get any memory errors. Im in windows 7.
did u try the latest version? 2.6.2d that I posted tuesday and set to hardware safe mode?
if u try to do the same again in recollection do u get the same error?

 

[Periah250]

Periah250
it seems u have a computer similar to my nuc. I have 1.8GB/16384 but I dont get any memory errors. Im in windows 7.
did u try the latest version? 2.6.2d that I posted tuesday and set to hardware safe mode?
if u try to do the same again in recollection do u get the same error?

let me download that version and try to recreate it.

im on windows 11 by the way that may influence things

ok so, 2.6.2.d bricked my game some how, whenever i try to load a game i get an 'automation error"
some kind of component cant be found.