Kink vs Fetish

[Rafster]

How does the not rocket science work here, is it straight for a guy to like this?
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Ugh, saved pic for... research purposes, yeah, research purposes. Some trans men look so fucking masculine that most men would look like girls compared to them (I'm exagerating, but you get the point). It's a minority inside a minority, few trans men get to that point. It doesn't seem to be the case of trans women, where many get to a point that they could compete in a beauty contest with actual biological women.

I must admit I fapped to some vids of transmen that look like the one on the pic, but as Buck Angel pointed out recently on a live on YT, it's just a kink. I don't even think I'll come to see a trans man ever in my country, and even if I do, I dunno if I would actually perform the same as if he were a biological men, so no, still no contact with a vagina during my whole life, birth included. My gay card is safe, no bisexualism near.

That's why I give the benefit of the doubt the straight men that fap out on trans women porn, or those who love futas. They may be straights indeed where the only dick they ever know is theirs. The only part that gets me, is why some come so disgusted with trans women while they drool for futas, even imagining sucking their dicks out (what tanstaafl asked earlier), they could at least be civil, you know.

 

[suprisedcrankyface]

So if the futa has a male attitude it's gay and a female attitude its lesbian? Can they decide which attitude they have on a day and straddle the line like a pole stripper spinning for the last $20 of the night?

You just need to branch it out, like how gay is NTR if you see the cum in your wife and do her? What if it's an accident? What if you enjoy it? What if you eat it?

Is eating another man's cum gay even if you never sex the man? Is eating your own cum gay?

Though that's on you, I think cum tastes pretty terrible but I'm still curious where these critical path choices land on the scale and brave strong men need to know where and how to eat cum and when that kink/fetish may cross the line. Can't get accidentally gay afterall.

Welcome to a societal double standard, a man experiments once he will be called gay forever. Lesbians seem to really have to work hard to get called that.

A question I have posed many times. The conclusion I can come to is "depends on how it's written big her dick is".

fixed your conclusion

I accept my new title, but only if it comes with a fancy ID.

Well Headpats DOES take on a new meaning with a futa

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

Well Headpats DOES take on a new meaning with a futa

 

[Icarus Media]

Breaking: Icarus Media, former futa expert of the site, just got NTR'd. Not that he normally minds NTR with his futa, but I somehow don't think MissCougar's a futa...

anne O'nymous, who recently wrote something similar...

Pffh, who cares about an online title? It is as Schopenhauer states: "It is what a man IS that is the most conducive to his inner happiness, as opposed to what a man HAS."

Yes for anyone wondering I've finished reading 'The World as Will and Idea' and have now moved onto his 'Wisdom of Life & Counsel and Maxims'.

Also Jaike smells.

 

[tanstaafl]

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[Insomnimaniac Games]

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Excuse you, I take wholesome headpats very seriously.

 

[anne O'nymous]

Yeah but Insomnimaniac Games says futa is basically the express elevator to being super gay. I kind of think he may be the authority on that.

Since I'm the one who gave him his crown, what Jaike confirmed not long ago, I can't deny this... And this annoy me horribly

Straights say that a man putting a penis in his mouth is gay...

It's a question of reliability.
Who's the most reliable when it come to know what is gay and what isn't? Gays, or straights?

Wow. Just. Wow.

Really?????

Well, I never said that they are futa. I just tried to cover the whole spectrum, I don't want our insecure babies to be confused because there's an entity that doesn't appear in their gay chart.
Jaike make me realize that I forgot FtM, and I honestly don't know where to place them. Probably right before, or right after, shemales.

 

[tanstaafl]

It's a question of reliability.
Who's the most reliable when it come to know what is gay and what isn't? Gays, or straights?

Neither. Both are biased.

 

[tanstaafl]

Excuse you, I take wholesome headpats very seriously.

I made sure to edit it so that it was kinda wholesome. I had your best interests in mind.

 

[Count Morado]

shemales

Again, really?

I think you are missing the point of my "REALLY?!" Again, using a term of objectification and sexualization. Essentially making the same mistake as someone whom are attempting to correct.

What's worse is using the term and then defining it incorrectly even within the context of objectification and sexualization.

First come shemale, who have neither boobs nor vagina, and pose as men.

No. The dehumanizing term "Shemale" is used by people to talk about a transgender individual who was assigned male at birth, but who presents themselves (and may identify themselves) as a woman.

 

[tanstaafl]

Again, really?

I think you are missing the point of my "REALLY?!" Again, using a term of objectification and sexualization.

So is futa now. Just because it is a different language doesn't make it better or worse.

Edit: This entire site focuses on objectification and sexualization...depending on the game you click of course, but better than even odds your click hit pay dirt.

Edit2: I'm not a politically correct person, nor do I think that certain things that have become more offensive over time in the United States have followed the same pattern in other countries. I also think that intent matters more than words. If that MW guy had said it, I'd jump on it just like you to slap it down, but I don't for an instant think that he had any nefarious intent in using the word.

 

[Count Morado]

So is futa now. Just because it is a different language doesn't make it better or worse.

Edit: This entire site focuses on objectification and sexualization...depending on the game you click of course, but better than even odds your click hit pay dirt.

Futanari is a fictional character. Yes, it is used in the porn industry. However it does not have the same connotations as the other term being discussed. Unless, that is, a person is using it to talk about another human being.

And yes, this site does have that focus. However, that doesn't mean the terms need to be continued. Notice that the term "shemale" is not used on this site for a tag. Notice that with the new tags, whenever they are implemented, futanari and trans are being separated.

 

[tanstaafl]

Futanari is a fictional character. Yes, it is used in the porn industry. However it does not have the same connotations as the other term being discussed. Unless, that is, a person is using it to talk about another human being.

And yes, this site does have that focus. However, that doesn't mean the terms need to be continued. Notice that the term "shemale" is not used on this site for a tag. Notice that with the new tags, whenever they are implemented, futanari and trans are being separated.

I edited my post, lol. But you were already replying, dang.

Edit2: I'm not a politically correct person, nor do I think that certain things that have become more offensive over time in the United States have followed the same pattern in other countries. I also think that intent matters more than words. If that MW guy had said it, I'd jump on it just like you to slap it down, but I don't for an instant think that he had any nefarious intent in using the word.

 

[anne O'nymous]

I think you are missing the point of my "REALLY?!" Again, using a term of objectification and sexualization.

Okay... I read the wikipedia page, both French and English, and what the fucking fuck? How a word can have shifted so much in a so short span of time?

This being said, I mentioned MtF twice in my list, so you should have understood by yourself that I wasn't talking about transgenders but ladyboys and transvestites, excluding the part of them who are actually trans.


Edit to address your own edit:

No. The dehumanizing term "Shemale" is used by people to talk about a transgender individual who was assigned male at birth, but who presents themselves (and may identify themselves) as a woman.

Rewind 15-20 years back in your life, and all the years before this. Shemale wasn't used to address transgenders, but a small part of the gay community that was fully identify as men, but were, hmm, "targeting" is the least worse word, bi men. At least it was in France.

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

However it does not have the same connotations as the other term being discussed. Unless, that is, a person is using it to talk about another human being.

Anne is French, though. English is their second, maybe more, language. It might not have the same negative connotations there that it would in the US. They are due benefit of the doubt, and I don't think you're giving it.

 

[Count Morado]

Anne is French, though. English is their second, maybe more, language. It might not have the same negative connotations there that it would in the US. They are due benefit of the doubt, and I don't think you're giving it.

I offered AON a chance to look up the term without being more prolific in my response. I only followed up after AON did it again.

Yes, I understand the problems with language - within a single language and between languages.

Okay... I read the wikipedia page, both French and English, and what the fucking fuck? How a word can have shifted so much in a so short span of time?

This being said, I mentioned MtF twice in my list, so you should have understood by yourself that I wasn't talking about transgenders but ladyboys and transvestites, excluding the part of them who are actually trans.

It's been that way for awhile. Again, it goes to the baked in system of bigotry.

Anyway, transvestite is also passe. Been so for awhile, as well.

If anyone wants to learn better (and note, I make mistakes myself) - there are websites that help foster understanding and education.

 

[tanstaafl]

 

[Count Morado]

Edit2: I'm not a politically correct person

No one is asking you, me, or anyone to be politically correct. We're being asked to treat others as we wish to be treated.

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Also, you're quoting George Carlin without actually sharing what Carlin actually believed.

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[Saerwen]

Anne and Count disagreeing for once...

 

[anne O'nymous]

I offered AON a chance to look up the term without being more prolific in my response.

You've shoot an arrow in the dark, expecting that the word had for most of my life the meaning that it now have in your country. It's not the same.
This while its meaning, as I knew it until now, make them partly intruder, partly redounding (since followed by femboy), in my list. What can perfectly have been the reason why you were reacting...

All this while, as I said, MtF were mentioned twice, and the following definition explicitly pointed to the fact that the word wasn't used with the meaning you give it.
What is the funny part here. You could have thought that you assumed wrong the reason why I used that word, but preferred to decide that I was wrongly defining it.

It's clear that you've been personally hurt by this, and I'm sorry, but you should try to remember who you're talking too before jumping to such conclusions. It's not like I've never wrote posts as long as books in defense of transgenders before...