alex2011

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U mean that optimization will suck ass hard,and game will be beyond repair??
No, it has nothing to do with optimization, that is strictly in the game itself and would already be affecting the game without the mod. What I mean is loading high poly assets already requires more than loading the low poly assets we see when just walking. This is why the game unloads the other girls in the same room temporarily when you start interactions, to free up more resources for use on the girl being interacted with so her high poly assets won't tank performance. This is also why Kplug's automatic join in H feature tanks performance above a certain number of girls, that number entirely dependent on the hardware and overall freed up resources that are available.

What I mean is the Force High Poly mod essentially doubles the system requirements because that is exactly what it does, it forces the game to load every girl using their high poly assets. Nothing short of a supercomputer could load all 98 slots in high poly without some performance drop. For example, it doesn't totally tank my performance to load a class that big, but I don't get the usual 40-60 FPS I do with less girls. I have 24 GB of DDR4 RAM and RAM is the most essential component of this game, especially when talking about the number of girls being loaded.

who misses Rapelay kind of gameplay here? just wondering.
i feel bored, i am going to take a nap.
As far as the content type, yeah, I would love a little more dark content, but I do like the free roam abiities that this, AI Shoujo, SBPR, the Artificial Girl series, and the Artificial Academy series provide more than the equivalent of Koikatsu's Free H mode that Rapelay and the Honey Select series provide.

does anyone know where i can get sexy beach premium resort for free?
I think it has a thread here, not sure since I've had it for as long as it has had a community provided translation, which was before Hongfire went down.

Hey I am kinda new to this and from what I read so far that Kplug offers quite a lot of Gameplay mechanics so I am really interested in on trying it! should I download the latest rx10 or is that one not compatible with KPlug?
It IS compatible, but some mods installed in RX10 might have compatibility issues. I have only had issues with one mod so far, a mod that is no longer even in Better Repack, but the update to 6.0.2 also screwed up Kplug even worse than JannieRepalcer, the mod that gave me trouble, ever did, so reverting from 6.0.2 to 5.1 is mandatory.

You will want to do a manual install using the zip provided by the download link that contains the files for Kplug so that you can choose what mods do or do not stay, do NOT use the installer unless you are okay with not having the option to choose the mods that get removed and DO back up all of those mods before if you try that. I would also recommend trying the game with Kplug and without removing mods and, if and only if you have issues, start removing one mod that is listed on the compatibility notes at a time until it works. That way you can keep as many mods as you want while using Kplug.

I will provide a link:

Shouldn't be anything that crazy, it's just weird playing a character, walking around the school with a cave-in for the back of his head.
It's only replicated in one of the girl NPC's, so I'm guessing it's just a few missing hair models.
Talking and H-Scene doesn't have missing hair.

I'm still disturbed by the stretchy dick though. I've never seen that on a clean install, and I might just redo the installion to see if that fixes it.
But I don't know where it came from to begin with.
walking around the school with a cave-in
Yep, it is as I thought, the character is using a modded in hair piece, which means it will not show when walking because modded pieces do not have low poly assets. Your only options for the hair are the Force High Poly mod or editing a vanilla hair piece onto the character.

I have never seen the other issue, so I'm not sure what to do on that.
 

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What about SBPR?
It has some issues in its design, especially ones that make story characters in that game look like the ones in this game, teachers in particular. In this game, the teachers are loaded in one at a time and are stationary at all times. In SBPR ALL characters are stationary, though they are not loaded one at a time, so it at least has that advantage.

That kind of defeats the whole free roam aspect of the game when you are literally the only character moving, and no, those odd dolphin suit guys don't count as characters because they don't have the kind of interaction the actual characters do. They did alleviate the issue in Koikatsu by having only the teachers remain still.

As far as how this pertains to Sunshine, the setting is a small beach town from the looks of it, just like SBPR, and I don't see any indication the characters will be moving, though I have only seen one video and a few pictures.
 
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It has some issues in its design, especially ones that make story characters in that game look like the ones in this game, teachers in particular. In this game, the teachers are loaded in one at a time and are stationary at all times. In SBPR ALL characters are stationary, though they are not loaded one at a time, so it at least has that advantage.

That kind of defeats the whole free roam aspect of the game when you are literally the only character moving, and no, those odd dolphin suit guys don't count as characters because they don't have the kind of interaction the actual characters do. They did alleviate the issue in Koikatsu by having only the teachers remain still.

As far as how this pertains to Sunshine, the setting is a small beach town from the looks of it, just like SBPR, and I don't see any indication the characters will be moving, though I have only seen one video and a few pictures.
Well, look at the second screenshot KnightWulf posted. They are moving alright.

I am more worried about interactions themselves. I hope choosing interest and the like will actually matter on how character acts.

I really want a canonical (as in true to it's predecesor) artificial academy 3
 

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Well, look at the second screenshot KnightWulf posted. They are moving alright.

I am more worried about interactions themselves. I hope choosing interest and the like will actually matter on how character acts.

I really want a canonical (as in true to it's predecesor) artificial academy 3
I'm not sure it will actually have an impact except maybe extra stat raising or lowering depending on likes and dislikes, much like how it works already in the original Koikatsu.

We ALL want a true sequel to Artificial Academy 2, and some were hoping that the original Koikatsu would shape into that by the end of patching, but that didn't happen. Assuming they do go for a third game in that series, I hope it is like Koikatsu on movement, with either a first or third person roaming view with freedom of movement not restrained to point and click, but with the interactivity of Artificial Academy 2, PC to NPC, NPC to PC, and NPC to NPC, though they can forego auto PC, that was useless. That and bring back the fully functional teachers and the ability to play as either a student or teacher and as either a guy or a girl with both being possible NPCs. Basically all the stuff from both Artificial Academy 2 and all the stuff from Koikatsu rolled into one neat little package.
 
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It has some issues in its design, especially ones that make story characters in that game look like the ones in this game, teachers in particular. In this game, the teachers are loaded in one at a time and are stationary at all times. In SBPR ALL characters are stationary, though they are not loaded one at a time, so it at least has that advantage.

That kind of defeats the whole free roam aspect of the game when you are literally the only character moving, and no, those odd dolphin suit guys don't count as characters because they don't have the kind of interaction the actual characters do. They did alleviate the issue in Koikatsu by having only the teachers remain still.

As far as how this pertains to Sunshine, the setting is a small beach town from the looks of it, just like SBPR, and I don't see any indication the characters will be moving, though I have only seen one video and a few pictures.
I remember the nightmare that was SBPR especially since I had a prebuilt at the time. It was pure agony. The world was too huge with no content and the more realistic graphics hindered the game further. They went Ubisoft on that one. I hope Sunshine will be smaller scale like the first Koikatsu game. I like the free roam, control, and toon style over the realistic ones. I also do agree with others on here about the lackluster dark content. :devilish:
 
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I remember the nightmare that was SBPR especially since I had a prebuilt at the time. It was pure agony. The world was too huge with no content and the more realistic graphics hindered the game further. They went Ubisoft on that one. I hope Sunshine will be smaller scale like the first Koikatsu game. I like the free roam, control, and toon style over the realistic ones. I also do agree with others on here about the lackluster dark content. :devilish:
I wouldn't mind an SBPR sized map as long as there isn't miles to walk between content locations/characters with the next event. With SBPR, the content was all at a fixed location for each character, but StapleComm is right, look at KnightWulf's second picture, they are clearly walking, a detail I missed when I first looked. That means they won't necessarily be at fixed locations or spread out so that a player has to walk half the map to get to each, though it could also make things worse depending on how they move. They could end up moving away from the next or previous location/character, which could make things worse as far as distance to cover.

As far as the graphics, anime style doesn't make things much better on performance. It doesn't matter if I'm playing Koikatsu or AI Shoujo, if I do it on my weak backup system, the thing chokes on the frame rate, but my main system works just fine on both except for AI Shoujo's optimization issues.
 

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AA2 had huge advantage over newest entries,no studio means devs were purely focused on good gameplay and they managed it.Now we have near no gameplay or lackluster like in AIS or KK or HS/HS2 and even more lackluster studio
 
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AA2 did miss out on yaoi, yuri, and the climax animations were restricted compared to the first game which allowed all animations for climax wasn't it? I did enjoy AA2 for its more in depth gameplay and the unpredictable gameplay. You never knew who was going to fight/fuck/cheat who. The game was fun and still is, but Windows 10 makes it a nightmare to play. I still remember the first day the teacher asked to study and then she got dominate and the class president type or whatever told on us and teacher got fired. It was just random fun. I miss that, one thing I never liked about Illusion games was the harem saturation and rape saturation. They focus too much on those things. I rather have AA2 style randomness depth and freedom for creations again. But eh Koikatsu Sunshine looks like fun too. Plus we could make traps in the first game I think was because of mods? So I'm looking forward to the 2nd game none the less. Just hope one day Artificial series makes a return.
 

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No, it has nothing to do with optimization, that is strictly in the game itself and would already be affecting the game without the mod. What I mean is loading high poly assets already requires more than loading the low poly assets we see when just walking. This is why the game unloads the other girls in the same room temporarily when you start interactions, to free up more resources for use on the girl being interacted with so her high poly assets won't tank performance. This is also why Kplug's automatic join in H feature tanks performance above a certain number of girls, that number entirely dependent on the hardware and overall freed up resources that are available.

What I mean is the Force High Poly mod essentially doubles the system requirements because that is exactly what it does, it forces the game to load every girl using their high poly assets. Nothing short of a supercomputer could load all 98 slots in high poly without some performance drop. For example, it doesn't totally tank my performance to load a class that big, but I don't get the usual 40-60 FPS I do with less girls. I have 24 GB of DDR4 RAM and RAM is the most essential component of this game, especially when talking about the number of girls being loaded.


As far as the content type, yeah, I would love a little more dark content, but I do like the free roam abiities that this, AI Shoujo, SBPR, the Artificial Girl series, and the Artificial Academy series provide more than the equivalent of Koikatsu's Free H mode that Rapelay and the Honey Select series provide.


I think it has a thread here, not sure since I've had it for as long as it has had a community provided translation, which was before Hongfire went down.


It IS compatible, but some mods installed in RX10 might have compatibility issues. I have only had issues with one mod so far, a mod that is no longer even in Better Repack, but the update to 6.0.2 also screwed up Kplug even worse than JannieRepalcer, the mod that gave me trouble, ever did, so reverting from 6.0.2 to 5.1 is mandatory.

You will want to do a manual install using the zip provided by the download link that contains the files for Kplug so that you can choose what mods do or do not stay, do NOT use the installer unless you are okay with not having the option to choose the mods that get removed and DO back up all of those mods before if you try that. I would also recommend trying the game with Kplug and without removing mods and, if and only if you have issues, start removing one mod that is listed on the compatibility notes at a time until it works. That way you can keep as many mods as you want while using Kplug.

I will provide a link:



Yep, it is as I thought, the character is using a modded in hair piece, which means it will not show when walking because modded pieces do not have low poly assets. Your only options for the hair are the Force High Poly mod or editing a vanilla hair piece onto the character.

I have never seen the other issue, so I'm not sure what to do on that.
Thanks for the helpful reply! I seems to run into a problem. I downloaded the better repack RX10. I installed the Kplug using the installer. during the installation I checked this boxes :

A) Install Kplug DLL
B) Install Kplug Data
C) Install Beepin Loader
D) Restore original game code
E) Remove mods with Compatibility issues.

After all that I saw that Kplufg is running in my game and I cant tweak the settings but I cant seem to sue the P shortcut or T shortcut during the talking mode to remove their clothing or grope them. I can acess the free camera by clicking shift but both of the other shortcut is not doing anything

I noticed that it stated the instruction stated "when look at something is dsplayed" and then I can press P or T. But I don't seem to get it to be displayed even If I hover my mouse to the breast during free camera, I dont get a "look at breast to be displayed"
 
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It just occurred to me, but should one be using a locale emulator to use this game?
I'm getting terrible update speeds, and the Upload/Download server always fails.
 

Brucewills

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A question for anyone using kplug:

Does anyone have any issues with using the Free Camera functions while talking to a girl? Supposedly you should be able to do a variety of things (ex. like kiss or strip the girl you're talking to with various button presses) and it says you can achieve this by getting this:

A message about what's you are looking at is displayed on screen, when this message is visible you can remove clothes on the current looked part.

Though that never actually pops up for me when I try this.
did you manage to get this fix? I have a similar problem. Everything else works fine except for that
 

Brucewills

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I don't really recall, tbh. But, I believe I never did and just got rid of kplug and went back to the vanilla version.
Ahh thats unfortunate, I have been trying to find the solution for it. Ive downloaded rx10 and Ive installed Kplug base on te instructions and even tick the 'remove mod with compatibility' during the installation of Kplug because I want to make it work. I could enter the free camera with no problem by clicking shift but I cant seem to get the 'look at breast or etc' to come up at all
 

alex2011

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Can someone tell me if there is a gangbang mod
Nope, the only way to get more than one guy into an H scene is with Kplug and Kplug can only put them in the background with other girls in the background that are either invited through the invite system like the guys or who were in the same room when you started the H scene.

AA2 had huge advantage over newest entries,no studio means devs were purely focused on good gameplay and they managed it.Now we have near no gameplay or lackluster like in AIS or KK or HS/HS2 and even more lackluster studio
Actually, the majority of Japanese customers are customization focused, so that's where most of the work goes. The studio being a thing didn't help, that's true, but it was only a small part of the issue that detracted from actual gameplay.

Add onto that that most Japanese adult game studios have practically all their developers go through one project and leave for the mainstream because of a stigma against porn game development over there, porn in general, but porn games are part of that, and you have a serious problem because every project has almost entire teams full of newbie developers straight out of school just looking to fill the work experience required for companies like Nintendo.

AA2 did miss out on yaoi, yuri, and the climax animations were restricted compared to the first game which allowed all animations for climax wasn't it? I did enjoy AA2 for its more in depth gameplay and the unpredictable gameplay. You never knew who was going to fight/fuck/cheat who. The game was fun and still is, but Windows 10 makes it a nightmare to play. I still remember the first day the teacher asked to study and then she got dominate and the class president type or whatever told on us and teacher got fired. It was just random fun. I miss that, one thing I never liked about Illusion games was the harem saturation and rape saturation. They focus too much on those things. I rather have AA2 style randomness depth and freedom for creations again. But eh Koikatsu Sunshine looks like fun too. Plus we could make traps in the first game I think was because of mods? So I'm looking forward to the 2nd game none the less. Just hope one day Artificial series makes a return.
AA2 had yuri, both PC x NPC and NPC x NPC, so no, it did not miss out on that. The first game was actually even more restricted on climax because virgins could not at all. AA2 had both heavy rape and harem if your NPCs had certain traits and were at or below certain virtue levels. There's one girl I can't keep off the entire class, she literally goes after all the quiet girls with higher virtue and then those girls end up dating her as her own personal harem. Gets real freaking annoying when I want to leave a permanent mark as one of the sex partners of every girl in the class by taking at least one of their first times or when I want them to only have sex within MY harem.

Sunshine does have the potential to bring back that randomness we all loved in AA2 as long as the developers don't skimp on the NPC to NPC interactions like in Koikatsu, where it amounts to them asking another NPC to follow them to a more private location for lesbian H. However, I agree that the actual Artificial Academy series would be nice to see the return of.

Thanks for the helpful reply! I seems to run into a problem. I downloaded the better repack RX10. I installed the Kplug using the installer. during the installation I checked this boxes :

A) Install Kplug DLL
B) Install Kplug Data
C) Install Beepin Loader
D) Restore original game code
E) Remove mods with Compatibility issues.

After all that I saw that Kplufg is running in my game and I cant tweak the settings but I cant seem to sue the P shortcut or T shortcut during the talking mode to remove their clothing or grope them. I can acess the free camera by clicking shift but both of the other shortcut is not doing anything

I noticed that it stated the instruction stated "when look at something is dsplayed" and then I can press P or T. But I don't seem to get it to be displayed even If I hover my mouse to the breast during free camera, I dont get a "look at breast to be displayed"
Selecting E was a bad idea, you should have done that by hand one at a time to allow you to pick which mods to remove. Not all of them have problems for everyone.

As for the issue in the last part, I've only had that with a mod that was removed from Better Repack some time last year I believe and don't have a fix, sorry.

It just occurred to me, but should one be using a locale emulator to use this game?
I'm getting terrible update speeds, and the Upload/Download server always fails.
The server is geo blocked for anyone outside Japan, so a VPN that makes you look like you are a user from Japan is necessary. No emulation of locale is necessary on this game and that would not affect your update speed.
 

nonexic719

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Is the character studio capable of creating separate scenes for videos? I don't seem to see any kind of timeline toolbar which could be use to adjust selected animations or locations.

I've seen some really good videos being created, and it seems like there should be some sort of workflow to create these which doesn't appear to be the base game.
 

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Nope, the only way to get more than one guy into an H scene is with Kplug and Kplug can only put them in the background with other girls in the background that are either invited through the invite system like the guys or who were in the same room when you started the H scene.


Actually, the majority of Japanese customers are customization focused, so that's where most of the work goes. The studio being a thing didn't help, that's true, but it was only a small part of the issue that detracted from actual gameplay.

Add onto that that most Japanese adult game studios have practically all their developers go through one project and leave for the mainstream because of a stigma against porn game development over there, porn in general, but porn games are part of that, and you have a serious problem because every project has almost entire teams full of newbie developers straight out of school just looking to fill the work experience required for companies like Nintendo.


AA2 had yuri, both PC x NPC and NPC x NPC, so no, it did not miss out on that. The first game was actually even more restricted on climax because virgins could not at all. AA2 had both heavy rape and harem if your NPCs had certain traits and were at or below certain virtue levels. There's one girl I can't keep off the entire class, she literally goes after all the quiet girls with higher virtue and then those girls end up dating her as her own personal harem. Gets real freaking annoying when I want to leave a permanent mark as one of the sex partners of every girl in the class by taking at least one of their first times or when I want them to only have sex within MY harem.

Sunshine does have the potential to bring back that randomness we all loved in AA2 as long as the developers don't skimp on the NPC to NPC interactions like in Koikatsu, where it amounts to them asking another NPC to follow them to a more private location for lesbian H. However, I agree that the actual Artificial Academy series would be nice to see the return of.


Selecting E was a bad idea, you should have done that by hand one at a time to allow you to pick which mods to remove. Not all of them have problems for everyone.

As for the issue in the last part, I've only had that with a mod that was removed from Better Repack some time last year I believe and don't have a fix, sorry.


The server is geo blocked for anyone outside Japan, so a VPN that makes you look like you are a user from Japan is necessary. No emulation of locale is necessary on this game and that would not affect your update speed.
Ohh I was okay with removing the other mods because I wanted to focus on the Kplug, So i dont mind Kplug removing the unecessary. Do you remember what was the mod that was removed from better repack that cause that problem?
 
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