Others Last Man + Countdown DLC [v4.24] [Vortex Cannon Ent.]
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With the one time donation do we get access to the full game for month only or life time?
And how many "More playable days" do we get?
With the one time donation do we get access to the full game for month only or life time?
And how many "More playable days" do we get?
So, here we're ACTUALLY talking about a game from a Russian/Ukrainian developer who STEALS other people's COPYRIGHTED material to MAKE MONEY for himself?
Why the hell not spend the income on the game for LEGAL photos or videos? I would happily produce them (I am an erotic photo/video producer).
At any rate, I think I am going to figure out who he stole his content from, and contact them on the adult professionals forum.
I have ABSOLUTELY NO RESPECT for people who steal other people's material and then make money on it. I don't even have respect when they use it without permission, even though they DON'T make money.
As I don't know the maker of this game I imagine he didn't buy the rights to the material he uses, but hey, I'm gonna find out.
I can see his website provider breaks international domain agreements by masking his name. No problem. The owners of the material are just gonna send them a nice court order.
The girls from MyDirtyHobby are not going to like this. I think I will write to them too, one of them I know a bit.
I have a couple of quests in the description of which there is nothing, empty fields. Is it okay or I went somewhere wrong?
Approximately 10% of quests have not yet received a full description. It will be updated to the next build.
- Oct 15, 2016
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Oh get a grip of yourself you tossrag.
Listen, I don't like VortexCannon and have had numerous arguments with them on this forum but there's a difference between thinking somebody is a dick for using a certain business model and then actively going out of your way to sabotage their efforts.
VortexCannon isn't some professional studio making millions per year - they're an amateur dev who made a simplistic visual novel game in a 4th rate game engine. There's not a single professional that I know who hasn't done something similar to this in their path to becoming an actually decent developer.
The "content" that you refer to are mainly images picked up from preview sites and the like of; while yes it is technically illegal, to try and jump on a moral high ground because some guy/girl is trying to make a quick buck is sad as fuck.
What you SHOULD have done is searched any games with the "real porn" tag and then started posting in those threads advertising your services with a ballpark figure of your rates and attempted to integrate yourself into what is a burgeoning and (in the future) potentially highly lucrative industry. You know, like professionals with creative vision do?
Then you and the models could make some extra side cash, the content creators would have access to a trustworthy artist who can make custom content to fit their game's requirements, and ultimately it would drive sales as the higher production value attracted more fans.
Almost EXACTLY like streaming media sites did with the porn industry.
Or you could go and tell the teacher on some small time dev making, in comparison to the studios, very little money on what is a passion project, eventually shutting them down then watching 25 other games spring up with exactly the same issue?
You want to help solve this? Great. Me too. Get involved in the adult gaming industry as it's in its infancy and the future of it is only getting larger and more profitable. Be somebody who can actually change the prevalence of stolen content rather than someone who sits at the back of the room yelling about how unfair everything is.
EDIT: Oh, and while I'm here - the adult gaming industry doesn't currently function like other professional media content creation as a business model. Most of it is done on a pay monthly basis through crowdfunding. So rolling up offering yourself to a guy with a plan for a $10k shoot isn't going to get anyone anywhere. Most of these guys starting out haven't got $10 let alone $10k which is why they're using other people's assets. These developers need time to build an audience so that they can build a revenue foundation in order to start spending on their own media creation. Hence why professional studios should have agreements with them based on additional exposure, in game advertising and other types of branding to allow them to create a functioning business which can not only advertise their site but also, eventually, provide freelance work for some of their stars.
The business here is potentially swimming in money. Porn is a high revenue industry. Video games are a high revenue industry. Porn video games should be an absolute no-brainer and there's room for profit in that market space. However this is never going to happen effectively unless porn producers understand the symbiotic relationship that they have to hold with these indie developers - that they aren't going to be able to have creative control over the project or its usage. Many sites, such as LifeSelector, have tried "Choose Your Own Adventure" style porn games but they are so ineptly made or monetised that nobody in their right mind would pay for them. And yet they STILL seem to make a ton.
Sabotage? I am not sabotaging, the developer of this game is. What I will be doing is preventing it.
And, if you think the porn industry is swimming in money, you've another thing coming. Pirates cause the industry to bleed 90% of their projected income. It's a very, very hard business to survive in! Especially if you do niche stuff.
Also, MyDirtyHobby gives almost all revenues to the models. In that case, it is pure (and evil) theft. The girls DO NOT make millions on the work they do!!!
The adult gaming industry isn't in its infancy. It has been around since the 1980s. I know because I remember.
And, I am actually currently working on a game concept.
What I am saying is that ... you want to use other people's work? FINE! PITCH AN IDEA AND BUY THE RIGHTS!!!
I have links to loads of places where you can buy both photo and video content you can use for all kinds of projects. As long as they are behind some kind of payment plan (single purchase or membership) so it may be safely used in games released on Patreon.
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Piracy is ALWAYS a service problem. Without exception. The games industry has fought this battle a thousand times, as has the movie and music business. Steam, iTunes/Spotify and Netflix solved the service problem which is why they made billions and piracy rates fell through the floor. I imagine that the porn industry has had similar success with partnering with the larger video sites to direct/signpost customers to their site themselves.
Your whole idea of piracy (as in 1 pirate = 1 lost sale) is just totally incorrect. The person who owns the rights to my Hulk Hogan picture on the left didn't lose a potential sale - if the image cost money then I just would have used something else. Even Hulkamaniacs have inbuilt cost-benefit analysis mechanisms to purchasing decisions, brother.
And the adult gaming industry IS in its infancy. Just as the gaming market as a whole is still in its infancy, but especially the adult gaming market. There's no mature software products out there and there never has been. There's no large developers or publishers or even specialist designers in this niche. There's no VCs or angel investors putting their money into this part of the industry. Really terrible adult games existing since the 1980s isn't the same as having a mature market space. Primarily, the industry issues of distribution and the propagation of easy to use game engines is creating a groundswell and the income on Patreon et al for no-budget titles speak for themselves in terms of profit potential. The smart market investors are always looking at this type of action as the "Wild West" industries that show high profit for low output are the things that people make tens of millions from getting in early when you create a professional product. Porn has an image problem but as sexual freedom opens up and prudeness drops, something that consistently happened for decades if not centuries year on year, then with the profit potential of the market, some of the more risky developers will try their luck and once the word gets out then the industry will follow. The games industry is almost ridiculously pathetic in how it follows profit trends and success stories.
My larger point here is that I've seen literally hundreds of professionals with the same attitude that you have and they're now considered dinosaurs in the games industry because our understanding of piracy and purchasing psychology has moved past this point. VortexCannon is a no-budget game developer who makes fairly obscure porn games and he/she uses images that he/she's picked up from Google or whatever. Calling them "an evil thief" is somewhat ridiculous. If those particular imagesets weren't on Google then just as I did with the Hulkster, they'd just have picked a different imageset. There's no lost sales there. They're somebody who is building their skills and realising a bit of earning potential, and IF they are successful with this then they might well turn out to be a fantastic client for these sites that you mention down the line as they produce more and more games. But killing their game isn't going to achieve anything; you can't DMCA your way out of piracy, it has been tried by companies big and small across the years and it has never worked. You get their download taken down, they rehost their stuff somewhere else in a transfer that takes 2 hours then they're back up again and you're out the time you've lost putting this all together.
I'm glad you have a bunch of links where developers could legally purchase real porn photo sets/videos for a realistic price that could fit their revenue models. Probably the most helpful thing that you could do in order to stop piracy is putting those links in the development section so people know where to go and find them because that sort of information isn't readily available to the average young game developer.
- Sep 27, 2017
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Hmm...lets think in another Direction. Models and Actresses will never get Money if nobody knows them. A Game like this is free advertising...just read a few posts up, there are players who ask for the Models Name...every Site choose Pics and Videos to create and increase the demand for them. If this AD Material flows in a few Games more People will know the Models, the demand increases and more Money can flow.
A Game like this can and will never need full Sets or long Videos, all they need is more or less Preview Material. It would be idiotic to buy a full Set or the rights for it just to use a few of them, its like buying a CD for one Song. If you are that concerned about the Profits for one of the biggest industrys on this planet, then make just sure the Models and their Paysites will be named in the Credits...then it is real free advertising for all of them...and if a Dev get famous enough, they could return the Favor by naming/linking him to their Sites to get even more known by both, player and pornfans. Look at it in longer terms, an allied Dev could always make new Games with unknown Newcomers to increase their fame...and if a intelligent Photographer sees the Potential in such a releationship, he could cooperate with the Dev to fit the Pictures better in the Game...it only needs communication, not lawyers.
If you want to make money look always for the win-win Solutions, if you just wanna fuck up and be a pain in the ass kill every Chance to make more money ^^
A Game like this can and will never need full Sets or long Videos, all they need is more or less Preview Material. It would be idiotic to buy a full Set or the rights for it just to use a few of them, its like buying a CD for one Song. If you are that concerned about the Profits for one of the biggest industrys on this planet, then make just sure the Models and their Paysites will be named in the Credits...then it is real free advertising for all of them...and if a Dev get famous enough, they could return the Favor by naming/linking him to their Sites to get even more known by both, player and pornfans. Look at it in longer terms, an allied Dev could always make new Games with unknown Newcomers to increase their fame...and if a intelligent Photographer sees the Potential in such a releationship, he could cooperate with the Dev to fit the Pictures better in the Game...it only needs communication, not lawyers.
If you want to make money look always for the win-win Solutions, if you just wanna fuck up and be a pain in the ass kill every Chance to make more money ^^
I am replaying the game, again. I like how it is playing so far. I am enjoying the content and the update. I still would like to see, not really a walkthrough, but a guide on where to find things, like the Playboys.
As to the two people who are arguing about the game, and unimportant garbage, please go private with the negative waves. You are damaging my calm.
As to the two people who are arguing about the game, and unimportant garbage, please go private with the negative waves. You are damaging my calm.
- Jun 5, 2017
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Guys , you went into copyright fight..Ok now there are 2 views on that matter..
One is Hollywood mainstream lawyers and creeps who would want to charge for everything MANY times, and other is our view -
Something published ONCE is bought already ONCE and i have then right to do with that material whatever i wish INCLUDING posting it on-line for everyone to use it FREE , because copyright i PAID ALREADY.. So..
And as long as things stand that way , yank lawyers pushing rest of the world to have to accept their bullshit ill be more then happy to skim money out of jewish lawyers. Who are already filthy rich skimming rest of the planet out of our money. And its not piracy at all, its MY RIGHT to use bought content as I SEE FIT..Not them.
Hope i clarified a bit little issues about copyright or not pictures, videos and anything online. Once its there , its for everyone to use. Uploader supposedly had right to do it. Wont get into that part. In good will ill believe he had persmission. XD
So anyone who doesnt agree with this can call me a Pirate. And ill say thx for the compliment XD
One is Hollywood mainstream lawyers and creeps who would want to charge for everything MANY times, and other is our view -
Something published ONCE is bought already ONCE and i have then right to do with that material whatever i wish INCLUDING posting it on-line for everyone to use it FREE , because copyright i PAID ALREADY.. So..
And as long as things stand that way , yank lawyers pushing rest of the world to have to accept their bullshit ill be more then happy to skim money out of jewish lawyers. Who are already filthy rich skimming rest of the planet out of our money. And its not piracy at all, its MY RIGHT to use bought content as I SEE FIT..Not them.
Hope i clarified a bit little issues about copyright or not pictures, videos and anything online. Once its there , its for everyone to use. Uploader supposedly had right to do it. Wont get into that part. In good will ill believe he had persmission. XD
So anyone who doesnt agree with this can call me a Pirate. And ill say thx for the compliment XD
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But, nobody still answered my question about really working walk-trough. I tried one posted by vortex on his pages. No go. It misses a lot, and only one mistake made in following it makes you repeat the day. Number of hearts which opens new options with girls is very ...hmmh margin to miss it so narrow. And without it you miss a lot of content.
So id like to see working one, which actually was played trough. Also some hints in game i couldn't solve at all..There is no way to do that coz it isnt logically connected..
And sorry im way past time in which i had to scribble hints on peace of paper next to keyboard so i can remember password or something for something. No. wont do it. Point and click please. Hints clearly marked please.
So id like to see working one, which actually was played trough. Also some hints in game i couldn't solve at all..There is no way to do that coz it isnt logically connected..
And sorry im way past time in which i had to scribble hints on peace of paper next to keyboard so i can remember password or something for something. No. wont do it. Point and click please. Hints clearly marked please.
"I will..." "I think.."
blub blub blub
Instead of farting here arround do something if you don't like it and post here your results
Otherwise, enjoy vortex work or just leave this thread
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I want to say something to everyone who is complaining about the "stolen" pictures, or "problems" you might be having. The pictures might well be "stolen" but how would you know if they really are? If the photos are free to start with, then they are not stolen. Unless anyone involved with said pictures have complained, watermarked, etc., to prove they are stolen, then the pictures can be used.
As to other problems, are you sure it is the game, or "leaving" the website, or is it you complaining about a decent game that you aren't liking because it is not fitting your ideal of a game? Or are you bitching because someone is making a decent game, and you can't play it, because it's too "hard?"
I have my issues with the game. However, I understand my issues. My major complaint is not the game, gameplay, or even the website. My major complaint is the lack of a free, on here, walk through of the game. I do love the recent improvements to the game, and I do love having a cloud save system. Vortex Cannon, please allow a walk through of the game to posted here. It can not include the paid version of the game/walk through. This can help. The other thing I would change is any paid part in game, I would only bring out once the person has logged into the game, and had paid for the content. Aside from these changes, I would not change too much more than. And please continue working on the game, and making it even better.
As to other problems, are you sure it is the game, or "leaving" the website, or is it you complaining about a decent game that you aren't liking because it is not fitting your ideal of a game? Or are you bitching because someone is making a decent game, and you can't play it, because it's too "hard?"
I have my issues with the game. However, I understand my issues. My major complaint is not the game, gameplay, or even the website. My major complaint is the lack of a free, on here, walk through of the game. I do love the recent improvements to the game, and I do love having a cloud save system. Vortex Cannon, please allow a walk through of the game to posted here. It can not include the paid version of the game/walk through. This can help. The other thing I would change is any paid part in game, I would only bring out once the person has logged into the game, and had paid for the content. Aside from these changes, I would not change too much more than. And please continue working on the game, and making it even better.
Thanks for the feedback!
In the next build, the Quests List will cover 100% of all quests, and have hints for all steps to solve them (Note that some quests in the game are still in development, and simply do not have an ending). This is the main source of tips for passing the game. It is available to everyone. Hot-key Q.
I am against the walkthrough, and if my will, I would have removed it altogether. The problem is that with the walkthrough people do not think about the game. They are just trying to copy how someone else played, without even reading the story. For example, in the walkthrough it is said that in the 50th day you need to go and invest 150k to open club in the city. The game develops nonlinearly and the player may not have this money. So some people start writing that this is paywall, shitty game, and the author is an asshole. I was playing the game last days, and I also didn't have 150k for the club, so I postponed the quest and completed it in the 90th day. I could not get through the game as written in the walkthrough, but I still got 100% of the game in another way. I did not have to use cheats, or even all playable days that are now unlocked on my account.
Previously, the public version was a separate client and was updated once a month. At the request of the players I am now using a shared client for all players. So all players get new updates every week, regardless of whether you are a Parteon subscriber or free player from the forum. Plus, every few days I upload hot-fixes to the server. You get these updates without a new game client at all.