VN Ren'Py Law School [Ep.3 EA Patch5] [MisterMaya]

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jadepaladin

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okaaay,so i should get excited when a dev mention a lot of lewds scenes in other words?
With no context? Sure.

With context? It depends on the dev. Some devs go for quantity over quality. It's not up to me if that's better or worse.

I will say I think the quality and quantity here is plenty, even if I think we should have gotten content with everyone by now.
 

jadepaladin

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o man he got rid of those sounds I actually liked them they added to the comedy for me the first few times but yeah after awhile it was overdone. Or are you talking about just for Episode 3
Yeah they've been slowly phased out in the later episodes, probably due to being overdone at the start. If you're ever bored, start a new game, and skip dialogue, and just listen, it's a cacophony. I've heard the metal gear solid alert sound more in this VN than I've heard it in the actual game.
 

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I just want to say how ironic it is to lock Aurora into being interested in Selfish MC while she has done the most unselfish thing in the whole game so far. I still wish the personality system would be removed before season 2 starts. There's enough time to do so.
 

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Its too bad it seems like you have to be an asshole mc to get with Aurora, she is really the most fleshed out female character in the game so far.

First time playing this and I really have only three complaints.

1. The weird un-advancable "summary" screens when the mc is talking about what the player JUST saw him do like 14 seconds earlier. I really don't get the point of them, and they are frustrating being unable to click past them you need to "skip" them. Why do we need a recap visual of scenes we just got done playing, its not like the MC can show other people.

2. The girls are all good looking, but there are SO many fucking characters. Unless this game is like 70 hours long I just don't see how they are going to have fleshed out, good stories. So far the only girl that isnt shallow as a puddle is Aurora, and it seems like I wont even get to be with her as I hate the selfish MC route. Every other girl seems to just be "x" is broken mc fix it.

3. The good / bad mc routes dictating which girls are available. I hate having to play a character I don't like just to see everything. Is just going to end up getting a gallery unlocker and just skipping shit.

Otherwise I thought it was pretty good for a genre that is hyper saturated right now.
 

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1. The weird un-advancable "summary" screens when the mc is talking about what the player JUST saw him do like 14 seconds earlier. I really don't get the point of them, and they are frustrating being unable to click past them you need to "skip" them. Why do we need a recap visual of scenes we just got done playing, its not like the MC can show other people.
These recap scenes are clearly meant to represent the MC telling other people what happened. There are times in this game that the MC has to tell other characters what happened, when that happens a game usually has to do one of the following
1) Actually have the MC tell the other character with text. Which depending on how extensive the event was can sometimes be done in one or two lines, other times it can take quite a bit more to be a believable explanation (Like take the MC telling characters about the attack. Could it be done in 1-2 lines, sure...but it makes more sense for the MC to be much more detailed when trying to have others figure out how to prove his innocence from his story.)

2) Cut away either ending the scene as the MC starts the explanation or else temporarily going to a different scene. Could be a full scene with other characters, a gag bit, or showing an object that denotes the passage of time like a moving clock, burning candle, or difference in daylight.

3) Fade in Fade out - Scene fades to black at the start of the explanation and fades back in as the MC is finishing the explanation up.

I actually find the Dev's solution quite imaginative and not one I've seen before. Plenty of times it feels like what the MC would have to say would indeed take more than a couple lines, so considering all of the above options all would result in stuff you would have to click through/wait on I don't think it's that bad. Now there have admittedly been a few times when a one or two line summary seems like it might have worked and been more efficient, but still not a huge deal to me IMHO.
 

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These recap scenes are clearly meant to represent the MC telling other people what happened. There are times in this game that the MC has to tell other characters what happened, when that happens a game usually has to do one of the following
1) Actually have the MC tell the other character with text. Which depending on how extensive the event was can sometimes be done in one or two lines, other times it can take quite a bit more to be a believable explanation (Like take the MC telling characters about the attack. Could it be done in 1-2 lines, sure...but it makes more sense for the MC to be much more detailed when trying to have others figure out how to prove his innocence from his story.)

2) Cut away either ending the scene as the MC starts the explanation or else temporarily going to a different scene. Could be a full scene with other characters, a gag bit, or showing an object that denotes the passage of time like a moving clock, burning candle, or difference in daylight.

3) Fade in Fade out - Scene fades to black at the start of the explanation and fades back in as the MC is finishing the explanation up.

I actually find the Dev's solution quite imaginative and not one I've seen before. Plenty of times it feels like what the MC would have to say would indeed take more than a couple lines, so considering all of the above options all would result in stuff you would have to click through/wait on I don't think it's that bad. Now there have admittedly been a few times when a one or two line summary seems like it might have worked and been more efficient, but still not a huge deal to me IMHO.
Yeah I love the dev's style for telling people what happened. Better than basically any game ive played unless like you said it can be explained quickly.
 

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Its too bad it seems like you have to be an asshole mc to get with Aurora, she is really the most fleshed out female character in the game so far.

First time playing this and I really have only three complaints.

1. The weird un-advancable "summary" screens when the mc is talking about what the player JUST saw him do like 14 seconds earlier. I really don't get the point of them, and they are frustrating being unable to click past them you need to "skip" them. Why do we need a recap visual of scenes we just got done playing, its not like the MC can show other people.

2. The girls are all good looking, but there are SO many fucking characters. Unless this game is like 70 hours long I just don't see how they are going to have fleshed out, good stories. So far the only girl that isnt shallow as a puddle is Aurora, and it seems like I wont even get to be with her as I hate the selfish MC route. Every other girl seems to just be "x" is broken mc fix it.

3. The good / bad mc routes dictating which girls are available. I hate having to play a character I don't like just to see everything. Is just going to end up getting a gallery unlocker and just skipping shit.

Otherwise I thought it was pretty good for a genre that is hyper saturated right now.
If you have "skip unseen" enabled you can double tap Tab to skip it, you'll just have to mouse wheel back a few renders since it'll likely skip some dialogue before you cancel the fastforward.
 
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TonyMurray

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Its too bad it seems like you have to be an asshole mc to get with Aurora, she is really the most fleshed out female character in the game so far.
I agree with the sentiment of Aurora being under "selfish", although if you were to split the nine main LIs into the three groups, she would have to be one of the three to go in that category, surely. However, as has been said many times before, it feels strange that if that's the case, you can still get all of Aurora's scenes (so far) on a fully altruistic route.

What I would note though, is that you don't have to be an asshole to get a rating of "selfish". A lot of the choices that go that way are relatively inconsequential. Admittedly, I have to really specifically try to get a "selfish" rating, but the choices picked in order to get it are mostly not what I would call "asshole" choices.
1. The weird un-advancable "summary" screens when the mc is talking about what the player JUST saw him do like 14 seconds earlier. I really don't get the point of them, and they are frustrating being unable to click past them you need to "skip" them. Why do we need a recap visual of scenes we just got done playing, its not like the MC can show other people.
These recap scenes are clearly meant to represent the MC telling other people what happened. There are times in this game that the MC has to tell other characters what happened

I actually find the Dev's solution quite imaginative and not one I've seen before. Plenty of times it feels like what the MC would have to say would indeed take more than a couple lines, so considering all of the above options all would result in stuff you would have to click through/wait on I don't think it's that bad. Now there have admittedly been a few times when a one or two line summary seems like it might have worked and been more efficient, but still not a huge deal to me IMHO.
I agree that it's a really good way of telling us, as the reader/player, what they're talking about without having us actually repeat what we already know. It's probably the best example of getting around this that I've seen so far, because the fade to black/5 minutes later transitions are nothing really, although they are just as intrusive (not that I find the recaps here intrusive, personally).
 

Skylaroo

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I agree with the sentiment of Aurora being under "selfish", although if you were to split the nine main LIs into the three groups, she would have to be one of the three to go in that category, surely.
I think Aurora is pretty much a chaotic-neutral character and not a selfish one. But one thing I want to point out though, the personality group is MC's and not the girls'. So the game doesn't necessarily say that Aurora is selfish, but she is interested in a selfish MC instead.

Of course opposites can attract, but at the same time I just feel it's very inconsistent for Aurora to like a selfish MC when so far she really likes it when MC gives her attention/compliments to her. Not to mention that an example of a selfish character is Jacob which she clearly hates.
 

Crosaith.

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MC's wet hair style looks so much better than the loaf of bread thing he's usually rocking.
 

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made this meme as a joke for a discord conversation figure i'd share it. ( I suck at photo editing.)

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I think Aurora is pretty much a chaotic-neutral character and not a selfish one. But one thing I want to point out though, the personality group is MC's and not the girls'. So the game doesn't necessarily say that Aurora is selfish, but she is interested in a selfish MC instead.

Of course opposites can attract, but at the same time I just feel it's very inconsistent for Aurora to like a selfish MC when so far she really likes it when MC gives her attention/compliments to her. Not to mention that an example of a selfish character is Jacob which she clearly hates.
I think "selfish" is clearly the wrong word. I get where the dev is going but having a more traditional alignment chart, dnd-style makes much more sense. Chaotic just feels like a more appropriate word
 

drifter139

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the only LI I have any interest in is Taylor and Rose. I get that Taylor has issues but she's been fun and Rose has that long history of being next to mc through all the good times and bad times. this is just my opinion tho
 
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Crosaith.

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the only LI I have any interest in is Taylor and Rose. I get that Taylor has issues but she's been fun and Rose has that long history of being next to mc through all the good times and bad times. this is just my opinion tho
Good choices dude. Those are two of my favs as well. Going selfish route and my favs so far are 1) Rose 2) Aurora 3) Taylor 4) Samara 5) Elsa. Might not play others. I'd also be down to check out a Selena/Caroline throuple route if that ever becomes a thing. Selfish... I know. :p
 

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Good choices dude. Those are two of my favs as well. Going selfish route and my favs so far are 1) Rose 2) Aurora 3) Taylor 4) Samara 5) Elsa. Might not play others. I'd also be down to check out a Selena/Caroline throuple route if that ever becomes a thing. Selfish... I know. :p
Selena and Caroline are listed in 'Side Girls' category. That makes a threesome with them highly likely, but a throuple, highly unlikely.
Anyway, prior to Ep.3 my favs were 1) Taylor 2) Elsa 3) Lana, but now it's 1) Taylor 2) Miranda 3) Elsa. An incredible performance by the former songbird.
 
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Crosaith.

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Selena and Caroline are listed in 'Side Girls' category. That makes a threesome with them highly likely, but a throuple, highly unlikely.
Anyway, prior to Ep.3 my favs were 1) Taylor 2) Elsa 3) Lana, but now it's 1) Taylor 2) Miranda 3) Elsa. An incredible performance by the former songbird.
Yea, I know dude. I just really enjoyed the throuple dynamic in that Bare Witness game and would like to play a route that has some similarities to that. It'd just be a bonus though. I'm more than happy with the games current direction.

Heh Lana went full MIA uh? Think Andrea got more screen time than her. And yea, I can see why you like Miranda even tho she ain't for me.
 

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Yea, I know dude. I just really enjoyed the throuple dynamic in that Bare Witness game and would like to play a route that has some similarities to that. It'd just be a bonus though. I'm more than happy with the games current direction.

Heh Lana went full MIA uh? Think Andrea got more screen time than her. And yea, I can see why you like Miranda even tho she ain't for me.
I still remember how players were frustrated with Rose and Lana being center stage in Ep. 1. And now, with the girls being out of focus in Ep. 3, they're missing them and want more of them :giggle:.
 

TonyMurray

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I still remember how players were frustrated with Rose and Lana being center stage in Ep. 1. And now, with the girls being out of focus in Ep. 3, they're missing them and want more of them :giggle:.
So glad Lana's hair experiment is no more though. I don't think that was a good look on her, although I understand wanting to be different to Andrea.
 
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