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I am very disappointed after 2 versions demeter's breasts are still small, you said you were going to fix it.
This is my todo list (Which admittely I should make public, to avoid confusion):
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As you can see, it is somewhere in my todo list, but there are other issues I need to tackle and things I need to add first.
Especially now, I had to release R14 earlier in order to have more time to include the ending of season 1/Beginning of volume 5 all in a single big release.
Demeter's scene is replayable, and will always be replayable in any release, so it's not like you need to go back and check everytime, nor remember to keep any save.
Once I shortened the list, I will get to it.


But I am much more disappointed with the r13 version, it has practically nothing.
This is the changelog for R13:
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Aside from changes and fixes, this update focuses on side quests (Obtainable from the Guild), one of which is a requirement for Airmid's route. Some people have been wanting Airmid for a while.


And the r14 version is much worse that I can't even start it because on the hestia route the first thing I find at the entrance of the 11th floor is a sign that restarts the end of the r13 all the time, I'm going to try the version single, but since I also have the bug, I'm sorry, but I'm going to ask you to return my money

edit: The same in the other routes I can not do anything

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As you can read from my Patreon's comments, R14 had a bug with Liliruca, but that's unrelated to your issue. I was just going to release a patch for that.

From your screenshot, the save looks bugged, unless that's caused by the Quest Marker sign... It should not repeat anything, but I'll investigate the issue now.
 

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And the r14 version is much worse that I can't even start it because on the hestia route the first thing I find at the entrance of the 11th floor is a sign that restarts the end of the r13 all the time
All right, tested it and indeed the Quest Marker is still there even once you advance with the story.
It seems like I may have forgotten to disable it at the end of the event, I'll fix it ASAP.
 
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All right, tested it and indeed the Quest Marker is still there even once you advance with the story.
It seems like I may have forgotten to disable it at the end of the event, I'll fix it ASAP.
You can give me a thousand things, but in short, the r13 has been the 11th floor, you reach the end, you return to the entrance, many dialogues, but nothing happens, you return home hestia improves the status and tells you this is the end of the r13. Reaching the 12th floor in theory is already from r14, maybe I'm wrong and the error is from r13, after all I've jumped from r12 to r14, but that doesn't make it better

I am angry and disappointed, it is that I have lost the desire to play, in other games of these well if there are problems well I do not care because it is free, but if I pay I expect a half decent service
 
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You can give me a thousand things, but in short, the r13 has been the 11th floor, you reach the end, you return to the entrance, many dialogues, but nothing happens, you return home hestia improves the status and tells you this is the end of the r13.
This is a Visual Novel with Dungeon Crawler elements, of course it is going to have dungeon exploration and many dialogues, what else did you expect?
As I have said, Airmid was long requested, I do not even remember by whom anymore.
Before or later, I had to add her and to do that, I needed to make the whole outskirts of Orario, and its quests.

If you do not care about Airmid, or the side quests, then it is obvious that you will finish the content of R13 quickly.
Likewise, those who care only about storymode will finish R14 quickly, since as I have explained on Patreon, I had to make an early release and it focused on adding Puzzles, missing events, and the 12th - 13th floors with all their monsters in preparation for R15, since I want to make a single big release containing the ending of Season 1 / Intro of Volume 5.

In R15, those who like the gameplay elements won't have much to play, since the whole release will focus on the heroine you are currently dating, and the events of Rivira... Aside from the final battle, it will be all Visual Novel.
Which is great for those who enjoy the Story Mode.

Can you see the trend yet? Each release focuses on certain aspects of the game; If you enjoy only some aspects of the game, you cannot expect every single update to be tailored around your likings.


Reaching the 12th floor in theory is already from r14, maybe I'm wrong and the error is from r13, after all I've jumped from r12 to r14, but that doesn't make it better
You simply encountered a bug which I have just fixed, and I am building the patch as I am typing this.
You didn't really play R14 content, yet.

but if I pay I expect a half decent service
You mean like fixing a reported bug 50 minutes after it is reported, 20 minutes of which is the time it took for me to build the patch (Yes, compressed takes a while...) + the time to test the fix (and not just yours, since there was another bug I had just finished fixing).

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Probably not, since I have always offered quick fixes even to free users, as I believe there are different types of support and not just monetary.

I am angry and disappointed, it is that I have lost the desire to play, in other games of these well if there are problems well I do not care because it is free
Not a problem. This one is on me as well.

I refunded the money as you have requested, both to test the refund feature (I swear I always wondered how it worked, and it took me longer than I'd like to admit to find the damn "refund" button x) ), but also to thank you for being my first player ever to scream at me and be generally "differently kind" in 3+ years that I have been doing this.
Players have been reporting bugs in many different ways, but this is definitely a first.

Cheers, and have a nice day.
 

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This is a Visual Novel with Dungeon Crawler elements, of course it is going to have dungeon exploration and many dialogues, what else did you expect?
As I have said, Airmid was long requested, I do not even remember by whom anymore.
Before or later, I had to add her and to do that, I needed to make the whole outskirts of Orario, and its quests.

If you do not care about Airmid, or the side quests, then it is obvious that you will finish the content of R13 quickly.
Likewise, those who care only about storymode will finish R14 quickly, since as I have explained on Patreon, I had to make an early release and it focused on adding Puzzles, missing events, and the 12th - 13th floors with all their monsters in preparation for R15, since I want to make a single big release containing the ending of Season 1 / Intro of Volume 5.

In R15, those who like the gameplay elements won't have much to play, since the whole release will focus on the heroine you are currently dating, and the events of Rivira... Aside from the final battle, it will be all Visual Novel.
Which is great for those who enjoy the Story Mode.

Can you see the trend yet? Each release focuses on certain aspects of the game; If you enjoy only some aspects of the game, you cannot expect every single update to be tailored around your likings.




You simply encountered a bug which I have just fixed, and I am building the patch as I am typing this.
You didn't really play R14 content, yet.



You mean like fixing a reported bug 50 minutes after it is reported, 20 minutes of which is the time it took for me to build the patch (Yes, compressed takes a while...) + the time to test the fix (and not just yours, since there was another bug I had just finished fixing).

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Probably not, since I have always offered quick fixes even to free users, as I believe there are different types of support and not just monetary.



Not a problem. This one is on me as well.

I refunded the money as you have requested, both to test the refund feature (I swear I always wondered how it worked, and it took me longer than I'd like to admit to find the damn "refund" button x) ), but also to thank you for being my first player ever to scream at me and be generally "differently kind" in 3+ years that I have been doing this.
Players have been reporting bugs in many different ways, but this is definitely a first.

Cheers, and have a nice day.
First I would like to apologize, after you fixed the problem so quickly, at least I owe you an apology, yesterday I got too angry, I guess it was an accumulation of things. It is possible that with my low level of English and my anger, I will explain myself poorly, I don't mind exploring and the dialogues, but it is a porn game and if in an update you don't find some new content, understand a little my disappointment, I don't play this game precisely for the exploration xd. About r13, as I access from Airmid, I went outside and did the 3 missions but I didn't get much, maybe because I did the missions after exploring the 11th floor
 
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Which route has content in this update? Story mode player
 

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First I would like to apologize, after you fixed the problem so quickly, at least I owe you an apology, yesterday I got too angry, I guess it was an accumulation of things.
No problem, it's all good.

About r13, as I access from Airmid, I went outside and did the 3 missions but I didn't get much, maybe because I did the missions after exploring the 11th floor
The side quests added are 8, and Airmid's is not among the first three... I think it was the fifth one, something with "Kobold" in the title.
When it comes to Airmid, she's her own route and it happens before the whole celebration event (She even got her alternative CGs for it), so you will need to complete the quest before that.

If you have a save where Bell has no relationship with anyone, just before the celebration, and you have no way to advance the day in order to do the side quest you are looking for, then you can cheat a bit: Press F1, type AdvanceDay 1, then execute.
Do that in the HUB, and click Bell's sprite to view the objective to update the day visually (although the guild would have new quests without requiring this extra step).


but it is a porn game and if in an update you don't find some new content, understand a little my disappointment, I don't play this game precisely for the exploration xd.
That is exactly why I am always very clear regarding my plans, ahead of time.
Not only I write them on Patreon, but I also write them publicly on Discord (Even for free users, with a list of scenes and scenes to be added in any given update).

The only thing which is not public (yet) is my TODO list, it used to be public, until I encountered the word limit on Discord... I am considering the idea of replacing the Progress Tracker on Patreon/Subscribestar with a textual list on pastebin or something x) but that's another story.

Point is, if you followed my posts on Patreon or even just checked Discord every once in a while, you should have known ahead of time what my plans for R13 and R14 were.
Still, you didn't play Airmid's content and it does have a hentai scene to starts things off, so it's not like R13 doesn't have content, it is just "hidden" behind side quests... Not that much different from Demeter or Cassandra in future, really.

R14 is the one with no content (as in Hentai scenes), but that's because it focused on other things (Monsters, Puzzles, Secrets, Changes, and so on), and most importantly, the 13th floor which is needed as the starting point for the Rivira events.
It is not that I am evil or lazy, this decision was taken because I want to cover all the events of Rivira (+ the content with the heroine you picked) in a single release, since it requires the player to be able to jump from the 13th floor to any given floor between 13 and 18... That means I actually have to make those floors, and it does take time.

Even with R15 having tons of content, Eina fans will still be unhappy because she will be one of the few characters that will get no scenes. As I have said previously, not all updates will make everyone happy, but they still need to happen.


Which route has content in this update? Story mode player
R12
Freya... Kind of.
Hestia and Eina.
If I screwed up in the coding of the checks, also Demeter (Theorically a bug if it occurs on Story Mode, but one that i'll leave unfixed and call a "special feature" :p)
Then there's the confession event of Liliruca, which has no hentai scenes yet.

You can skip R13 and R14 since they will focus on the gameplay part, and skip straight to R15 which will be mostly Visual Novel, so a perfect release for Story mode player.
 

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Perfect for me

I dont need anything else :p


How to start that bug? :Kappa:
By having no relationship and rejecting Liliruca, at that point the game's script falls on Demeter (or so I think, since I never tested it), even if you do not meet the requirements (which should be Story Mode's case).
 
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CG 62 and 63 are not in story mode? ( like the main storyline ones I guess )

Says Hestia and Eina route


Thanks for the update (y)
 
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CG 62 and 63 are not in story mode? ( like the main storyline ones I guess )

Says Hestia and Eina route


Thanks for the update (y)
That is correct.
CG 62 and CG 63 are SFW CGs that you unlock by inviting either Eina or Hestia out for dinner.
 

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This is my todo list (Which admittely I should make public, to avoid confusion):
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Gamepad support please. Map the essential things to the buttons.
Dungeon Movement
Stick Left: A
Stick Right: D
Stick Up: W
Stick Down: S
Button 5: Q
Button 6: E

Button 4: Issue Commands
Button 3: Attack
Button 2: Magic

Besides that hot springs:love: And maybe let Liliruca eat at the table instead of just on the floor in a dark dungeon.
 

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It is not that I am evil or lazy, this decision was taken because I want to cover all the events of Rivira (+ the content with the heroine you picked) in a single release, since it requires the player to be able to jump from the 13th floor to any given floor between 13 and 18... That means I actually have to make those floors, and it does take time.
Poor Winterfire goes crazy as the fans demand more smut from each of their preferred waifus... It's okay, you're a good dev :D Keep working hard and maybe bring back map girl, you said long ago we could pay her to do the exploring but she hasn't offered her services since the first floor...
 
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Gamepad support please. Map the essential things to the buttons.
Dungeon Movement
Stick Left: A
Stick Right: D
Stick Up: W
Stick Down: S
Button 5: Q
Button 6: E

Button 4: Issue Commands
Button 3: Attack
Button 2: Magic

Besides that hot springs:love: And maybe let Liliruca eat at the table instead of just on the floor in a dark dungeon.
I have been having a few difficulties with that, mainly how to handle the writing of a save description with a controller.
Also, how to handle the usage of the various items in battles... Although this can be solved with simply making each item selectable/highlighted.

I might just enable the controller for most of the game, except a few things (such as writing the save's description).
Just like Demeter's boobs, this is low priority but still planned.


Poor Winterfire goes crazy as the fans demand more smut from each of their preferred waifus... It's okay, you're a good dev :D Keep working hard and maybe bring back map girl, you said long ago we could pay her to do the exploring but she hasn't offered her services since the first floor...
I'll slowly get there :p
 
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I have been having a few difficulties with that, mainly how to handle the writing of a save description with a controller.
If controller write a simple log.
Real Timestamp
Game Timestamp
Waifu Route
Progress
Funds

The generic things other games use for saves as to be honest I don't write much there. Oh, when opening save/load if you could go to the last page a save was made on and highlight the last one that would be nice.

Also, how to handle the usage of the various items in battles... Although this can be solved with simply making each item selectable/highlighted.
Just yeet a controller with fill in configuration and let the player sort it out. Like how Zelda does it where d-pad or right stick has for directions for potions, bombs, or other useful things. Yeah the player might need to change this configuration as they get better stuff but the concept has worked fine for other games so why not yours :cool: If you want to see this done to the extreme there was an old game called Ape Escape which utilized every button on the Playstation controller.

I might just enable the controller for most of the game, except a few things (such as writing the save's description).
Many of those things could be simplified and players wouldn't notice or be happy. Otherwise just show them a virtual keyboard and let them peck and click like chickens. Ah, the good old games when you would look at a save password and weep. Besides many probably insert girl's name and boobs here as their description...

Just like Demeter's boobs, this is low priority but still planned.
Flat justice :p

I'll slowly get there :p
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AlexaSky The most likely scenario is that I'll just add one thing at a time, starting with the main menu, and going from there.
For instance, one of the things I need to do is still test the numpad x), might plug my dusty controller, and add the keys for it as well while i'll be at it.

My idea was doing a whole "Controller supported" update, but there are way too many things, and still too many things to do (such as a small overhaul to the settings screen).

I guess I could start with making the Story Mode controller friendly.
Anyways this is the todo list:
It will replace the Progress Tracker on Patreon/Subscribestar soon, in order to give a full picture of the things I still need to do, and the things you can expect on the next release.
 
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