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BTW wanted to say that if you have read any of the novels.. Bell Cranel goals are two folder. First to become top tier adventurer and second to have a harem. This is in fact how he was raised as you should know who his Grandfather and Uncle are.. His Grandfather was one to chase the skirts and Bel Cranel was raised on them stories.

BTW why does game says end of content but I have not even gotten to the minotaur fight yet or dragon scales..
 

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This game is starting to irk me like nothing. I am afraid to date anyone because it will probably lock me to a single route.. this type of game does not work with routes! I could not see myself playing this game a second time it's not a damn VN where you just select a choice and it can fast skip the rest of the text until you get new text.

Finally get a chance to date Lili but if do it will probably break other dating.. ugg.. it was really fun until I found out no damn Harem where you can fuck all the girls.
 
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This game is starting to irk me like nothing. I am afraid to date anyone because it will probably lock me to a single route.. this type of game does not work with routes! I could not see myself playing this game a second time it's not a damn VN where you just select a choice and it can fast skip the rest of the text until you get new text.

Finally get a chance to date Lili but if do it will probably break other dating.. ugg.. it was really fun until I found out no damn Harem where you can fuck all the girls.
It does have a VN mode for all but the brothel girls. Go old school and just make saves at choices. Cheat Engine money and buy bombs, lots of mother fuckin bombs :devilish: Beg someone to upload a gallery save :KEK:
 
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BTW wanted to say that if you have read any of the novels.. Bell Cranel goals are two folder. First to become top tier adventurer and second to have a harem. This is in fact how he was raised as you should know who his Grandfather and Uncle are.. His Grandfather was one to chase the skirts and Bel Cranel was raised on them stories.
Bell's goal was to have a harem at the beginning, but it is no longer true. In the novels, he rejects at least two women... So if he wanted to make a harem, he's doing it wrong.

BTW why does game says end of content but I have not even gotten to the minotaur fight yet or dragon scales..
I probably forgot to set the objective, or it is a leftover of the previous build (sometimes I forget those), but the Minotaur fight is there for sure and you can reach and complete it in this build.


This game is starting to irk me like nothing. I am afraid to date anyone because it will probably lock me to a single route..
The game has only single routes, so there is nothing to be afraid of.


I could not see myself playing this game a second time it's not a damn VN where you just select a choice and it can fast skip the rest of the text until you get new text.
Do you know what I find funny?

This thread never had the harem tag and even the game says so, yet everyone expects the game to have it for some reason.
Whereas there is a big red [VN] tag, which I put there recently for a reason... :p

Story Mode difficulty (Selectable on a new game) is a pure VN mode, and just as you'd expect from any Ren'Py game, you can hold a key and skip any seen text. Some things depend on gameplay elements so they are not available, but all of the major routes are there... Eina, Hestia, Lili, and so on.
Normal/Hard difficulty makes sense for those playthroughs where you are going for your favourite LI, or simply want to unlock gameplay specific things (such as achivement scenes).

It does have a VN mode for all but the brothel girls. Go old school and just make saves at choices. Cheat Engine money and buy bombs, lots of mother fuckin bombs :devilish: Beg someone to upload a gallery save :KEK:
Not just Brothel girls, but also Aisha (in future), Airmid, achievement scenes, and other gameplay specific CGs (Such as inviting Hestia out to dinner).
 

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Not just Brothel girls, but also Aisha (in future), Airmid, achievement scenes, and other gameplay specific CGs (Such as inviting Hestia out to dinner).
Other girls got to eat too. It's a tavern so when we getting the girls drunk? One at a time is fine. Got to celebrate when Aisha and her girls become our girls. Some really good food can be found in taverns. I'm hungry now and want a beer...
 
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Out of interest, Developer, as someone who is just starting the game and who is really annoyed with Hestia from the anime, do you think the Hestia Route is still worth a go? I mean, does she have the same issues or did you make an attempt to uh.... salvage the character?

Because I would love to read a Hestia who isn't.... as bad as anime Hestia.
 
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Out of interest, Developer, as someone who is just starting the game and who is really annoyed with Hestia from the anime, do you think the Hestia Route is still worth a go? I mean, does she have the same issues or did you make an attempt to uh.... salvage the character?

Because I would love to read a Hestia who isn't.... as bad as anime Hestia.
Pitrik is the local Hestia expert here, so I'll let him answer whether she is worth a go in this game or not :p

That being said, I had to make an attempt, mostly because she would get in the way of your other routes... Which would make this hentai game impossible. I tried to keep her jealous, but reasonable.
However, at he same time I tried to keep her character strengths, and weaknesses.

She is still an introved goddess with no experience whatsoever, so she is still learning what it means to love (and to be loved).
However, she will come to terms with that whether you go for her route or not.
 
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Out of interest, Developer, as someone who is just starting the game and who is really annoyed with Hestia from the anime, do you think the Hestia Route is still worth a go? I mean, does she have the same issues or did you make an attempt to uh.... salvage the character?

Because I would love to read a Hestia who isn't.... as bad as anime Hestia.
Story Mode, dip your toes in and if you don't like her you can always restart.
 

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@Pitrik is the local Hestia expert here, so I'll let him answer whether she is worth a go in this game or not :p
Hestia is always worth . No Hestia no life. :p

She is finally seen as a woman and not only respected because a Goddess by Bell so obviously is worth a go. For the rest you explained all already ;)
 
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Single route is AWFUL for a Dungeon Crawler! It does not work! Who the hell wants to play another dungeon to get a new girl! This is not a pure text VN! Dumb decision so I think I'll stop playing now and not waste my time.. I was interested in this parody because I thought it was going to be the Bell that started. And no it's not that Bell is not interested in a Harem he is too damn shy to even date a single girl much less a harem.

Word Worth NOW THAT was an awesome Dungeon Crawler got all the girls you found in the dungeon one play through. But there is too many other great games to waste my time on one that will take hours to play one time.. than have to repeat the game which will be boring by than a second time complete.. than a third time complete.. ugg.. that is just awful decision.
 
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I think I found a bug I killed this minotaur like 5 times and the event doesn't get removed and every time I do it It levels me up I'm kinda LVL 8 right now :)
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I think I found a bug I killed this minotaur like 5 times and the event doesn't get removed and every time I do it It levels me up I'm kinda LVL 8 right now :)
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It has already been fixed on R13, but thanks for reporting the bug!

Single route is AWFUL for a Dungeon Crawler! It does not work! Who the hell wants to play another dungeon to get a new girl!
Some people do, if I were a player, I would play it twice: Eina, Airmid.
You need to play more than once if you want to unlock all the achievement anyways, or even explore all the game's content (Assuming you make a different choice at the beginning).

The dungeons are fairly small, so once you do it once, you'll know where to go and the rest can be skipped (The skip function also works on normal/hard difficulty, for both unread and read text. The grinding is also optional, and it is only needed for a single route, so it's not as a big deal as you make it seem to be.


This is not a pure text VN!
As I have said, it is. I have marked it as such, see that big red "VN" tag?
What I did not put is a harem tag.
What is so hard to understand about this?


As for your review, while I agree on many points, you are wrong on some:

"No loot found in dungeons"
Given the size of each floor, the loot is evenly distributed on each direction the player might head to.
Every floor has between 1 to 3 treasure chests, the rest of the space is filled with events and puzzle related stuff.
However, your point is partially correct in this case since I assume you are playing R12, which is lacking puzzle related stuff and loot/events on floor 5,6 and 7.


"Some floors have way too many monsters while others are severely lacking any mobs"
"Mobs really need work.. almost no mobs until floor 5+ than way too many on floor 9+"
Which is how it works in the source material.
It hardly matters since you have access to Monster Lure (To lure monsters) and Morbul (to decrease the encounter rate to 0%).


"Tracker 2/5 (can not see any details like what floor if you missed it)"
The floor you are in is written just under the minimap.

As for the quests... Most are structured to be simple (Reach beginning of floor x, reach end of floor x), the only "complex" ones are mob related ones, you are right on this point... Not everyone knows where Blue Papilos are, and if they missed the dialogue, they might be stuck.
I am sure I have actually always made sure to write in the Journal where you are supposed to head to, but in case I did not, then know that a bestiary is planned.

Still, just in case, this is a point I partially agree to.
Especially since some quests (side and main) exist where you are expected to find something (such as Liliruca) in a specific floor without marker to help you.


"Game fails because who wants to play an entire route again when you have dungeons and quests to do? A dungeon crawler should play like Words Worth get them girls whenever you can but I could not see myself every playing the game a second time for a new girl. VN it works because it is all text and you just use skip read lines.. impossible to do for a crawler."
I agree with most of this point, as I would only play this twice... For a completionist, this might be quite unfair. I get it.
However, for the last time... The game offers a story mode. This is a VN. I marked it as a VN. It is there, in the title. VN, the red tag. Do you know what is not there? A harem tag. Because this game does not have a harem tag, i never promised it nor advertised it as such, but it has a VN tag.


"So game fails along story line also he gets lewd enough to go for prostitution but not a harem? This just makes absolutely no sense personality wise or story wise."
It does make sense, actually.

A shy personality (especially if not introvert), does not mean that he does not hold any curiosity... It only takes a few steps and then leave it to the professionals to ease you in spending your hard earned valis, just watch the second season of the anime to see how Bell barely escaped their grasp :p

Also, the lack of possibility to make a harem is not solely on Bell... Not all heroines (my understanding of their personality, that is), would agree to share Bell.
 

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She did? I thought it was an anime only thing, I must have missed that line.
Anyways, I was thinking of adding a new bigger bag once she joins your party for good.
Giving her her own inventory would handle a lot of miscellaneous stuff that just gets sold in town anyways. It would also prevent the player having a bigger bag when she's not in the party. I do like the idea of showering the girls in gifts though since I've got the money mid as well splurge a bit.

Do you know what I find funny?

This thread never had the harem tag and even the game says so, yet everyone expects the game to have it for some reason.
Whereas there is a big red [VN] tag, which I put there recently for a reason...
Good luck with that. There are too many body pillows being sold for this series not to be in the harem category. The problem with harems that walk the tightrope is as long as nothing disturbs the delicate balance then all girls are love interest and our Hero will say just the right thing that is ambiguous enough as to not offend any of the girls but also not daring enough to cause any of the girls to rape him on the spot :LOL:

Story Mode for the main girls and run the dungeon for the common route works. Beside the side girls I suppose it doesn't allow you to take the girls on dates at the tavern or in Lili's case cookouts by the campfire since for some reason she's not allowed to be invited into the tavern... Marking campfires on the mini map would be nice. I forget does each campfire offer different content or just finding any campfire enough? Besides rations should sell marshmallows, chocolate, and gram crackers or whatever would be lore friendly equivalents :coffee:

Which would make this hentai game impossible. I tried to keep her jealous, but reasonable.
Sometimes I wonder if you have lore battles in your head and if that keeps you up at night :geek: I think Zeus would be happy if Bell went on a panty raid and I'm sure if Bell flipped the bill for a really good night out at the tavern the girls would forgive him eventually :sneaky: I don't mind it not being a harem as it offers more time with the girls in a one on one but to say fan service doesn't suggest a disfunctional harem is a bit much.

Single route is AWFUL for a Dungeon Crawler!
You never played the official games have you? Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? Infinite Combate has individual routes and at the end it could be canon as nothing special happens between Bell and any of the girls that couldn't be hand waved away as innocent fun. Hopefully in a few more versiosn Liliruca will start working on being my favorite supporter which is better then the official route ended with a date that Hestia cock blocked a few times just to have the story drag on.

The dungeons are fairly small, so once you do it once, you'll know where to go and the rest can be skipped
A new game plus with map support would be nice or get that sugar mama to give me my map fix for a price. That's one of the perks with randomly generated dungeons like in Disgaea as you know the map is worthless so why bother but when you hear it's hand crafted it's like you're invited to an art museum which incentivizes you to look around if for no better reason just to look like a pretentious snob :geek:

What is so hard to understand about this?
That every month or so some illiterate new guy is going to see a harem anime parody and skip past the early story to get to the point when they are faced with reality then cry? As a pity prize you could include a gallery save :p

"No loot found in dungeons"
I'm going to go out on a limb and say the only loot they care about is stuffing the potion seller with bottles up her ass to watch the bubbles o_O The items inventory is limited so rewards that are wholesome don't account for much. What can you get in the dungeon that you couldn't in the store? Otherwise it's a small monetary perk. When you release the hot springs that will be where the loot is that the perverts want :sneaky: Or Liliruca cuddles by the campfire... And that other guy better go water the flowers while we're at it.

Which is how it works in the source material.
Sometimes you shouldn't take the lore so seriously and have fun with it. With the monster lore and repellent this is way better then what it was but still if the player is on a quest maybe increase the odds of them getting what they need to continue on as it would make them feel good and not rant so much on 5% odds. If I was hunting rabbits seeing more rabbits would make me feel like a good hunter.

"Tracker 2/5 (can not see any details like what floor if you missed it)"
I can kinda see this for walls as sometimes I'll notice a path and am like how the hell did I miss that. Then again mini map rants from the deranged mapper... This is likely to get worse when traps are introduced as some will pay extra for trap detection ;)

I agree with most of this point, as I would only play this twice... For a completionist, this might be quite unfair. I get it.
Don't think you understand the insanity of completionist :KEK: They aren't bitches they'll be fine. Spoiled kids that don't want to play can wait for the gallery save.

just watch the second season of the anime to see how Bell barely escaped their grasp
That's fan service If Bell didn't keep sucking it would be porn :HideThePain: Then again that's what heroes like you are for :WeSmart:

Also, the lack of possibility to make a harem is not solely on Bell... Not all heroines (my understanding of their personality, that is), would agree to share Bell.
A yandere harem? Though if the girls learned it's either harem or no dick well some could be persuaded :whistle: The carnage for top harem mistress might be brutal :devilish: Meh, I'll stick to wholesome lovey dovey or brothel king which an option to let the girls quit their job would be great as I'm not keen on sharing them.
 
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