Heitcaho

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This is moot if the protagonist is a beastman.
Gabriela sexual preference is "anything but the protagonist"
Which is weird because in storyline and convos, she is all about trying to fuck the MC (your whole group is in actuality) until you actually attempt to.

Gabe's just holding it back because she needs that money to pay for a cg scene where Minotaurs rape the Protags mother.

You know I've been one of the defenders of Gabe, but recently I've only been able to say WTF are you thinking. Why go through this big to do about polls and saying how much you listen to your fanbase, which overwhelmingly voted for mainly MC scenes less monster fucking and then do the opposite because MC fucking the girls wouldn't fit into the story.

It doesn't help she'll say she can only get so much artwork because of how much it costs, and then happily announce a porn video with some below average cam girl cosplaying as one of her characters. And don't even get me started on the stupid figurines. If she really wants to just cater to her own fetishes, which is transparently monster fucking and beastality, then just say so and don't say you listen to your fans while ignoring poll results.

Her blog is just a shitshow right now of strawman defenses and asskissing, really shameful tbh.
 

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Which is weird because in storyline and convos, she is all about trying to fuck the MC (you're whole group is in actuality) until you actually attempt to.

Gabe's just holding it back because she needs that money to pay for a cg scene where Minotaurs rape the Protags mother. :test3::test3::test3:

You know I've been one of the defenders of Gabe, but recently I've only been able to say WTF are you thinking. Why go through this big to do about polls and saying how much you listen to your fanbase, which overwhelmingly voted for mainly MC scenes less monster fucking and then do the opposite because MC fucking the girls wouldn't fit into the story.

It doesn't help she'll say she can only get so much artwork because of how much it costs, and then happily announce a porn video with some below average cam girl cosplaying as one of her characters. And don't even get me started on the stupid figurines. If she really wants to just cater to her own fetishes, which is transparently monster fucking and beastality, then just say so and don't say you listen to your fans while ignoring poll results.

Her blog is just a shitshow right now of strawman defenses and asskissing, really shameful tbh.
The porn videos and photo shoots are really cringy and she can easily make MC scenes that can fit in the story.
If gabe likes monsters so much, make the MC one, everyone is happy this way.
 

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The porn videos and photo shoots are really cringy and she can easily make MC scenes that can fit in the story.
If gabe likes monsters so much, make the MC one, everyone is happy this way.
Magihound DLC incoming.
 

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Magihound DLC incoming.

Don't worry according to Gabe

It's a double-edged blade, I'm always hesitant to add scenes that doesn't include the protagonist in this game because people hate that and seem to almost prefer having no extra scenes at all than ones that doesn't include the main character.
And its much harder to find good situations where he can be added into the scene while having it make sense from a story perspective.

At the end of the day, I'll likely add more "filler" scenes without the protagonist, even if people don't want them...but let's not kid ourselves, how many other adult games out right now has over 30 unique CG Scenes in the same game? ;)
(That's more than both previous LoQO games combined!)
Because giving us new scenes fucking Young Farah, Momma Farah, Gabrielle, Mhu'tiki or Ra'Tiki or even the Sunny Sue Ellen farm girl wouldn't make sense from a storyline perspective :rolleyes: much prefer cutting away to see Laquadia get raped by Minotaurs a third time, or one of our companions get so turned on by the stench of a rotting corpse they have to go suck a horse's dick.

Also lol from Gabe
He barely gets any scenes, huh...?

Main character is in 8 out of 13 Full Scenes.
Main character is in 5 out of 15 Mini-Scenes.
Rando
And even if the numbers are 8 out of 13 that is 61% and 5 out of 15 is 33% and if you add Mini-Scenes together with full scenes you come to 13 out of 28 which is 46%. So actually less than half the scenes in the game not counting sprite stuff is MC related at all.
Gabe's retort
Sure, because full scenes and mini-scenes are the same size and have the same amount of work/illustrations, despite their description.
Well whose fault is that Gabe? You design the scenes not the players. You gave the guy numbers and he crunched them and when you didn't like the results you say that its not representative of the work involved.

In some way I hope this little argument dies down because Gabe does not take well to public critics especially when they are right, on the other hand it's kinda funny.
 
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Don't worry according to Gabe
In some way I hope this little argument dies down because Gabe does not take well to public critics especially when they are right, on the other hand it's kinda funny.
Yeah I feel kinda bad that I started all of that, I feel like it's going to have unintended consequences.
 

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Yeah I feel kinda bad that I started all of that, I feel like it's going to have unintended consequences.

I wouldn't feel bad, it needed to be said.

You people don't understand I can only work on one thing at the time, it's a loop that always make someone disappointed because I'm not doing what they want.
If I keep working on adding more scenes, you have people complaining there isn't any more story content.
If I work on the story, you have people complaining there isn't any more scenes.
And no, I won't compromise the story, just so I can shove in some random scene here and there with the main character that adds nothing to progression.

The problem is you want everything. Now. You don't realize I may be putting some things on hold on purpose so I can get the main game done out of the way first before adding the majority of the optional stuff...and even when I do add optional stuff, people complain its something no one asked for.
She's inconsistent is the real problem people are getting at. What did the second scene with Laquadia do to progress the story? What did the scene with
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blowing the disgusting horse have to do with progressing the story? What does the scenes with Gab and Farah doing performances at the nightclub do for the story, Gabrielle doing tavern challenges, Farah letting Johns feel her up in dark alleys for money and so on and so on.

Also seriously that last sentence is ludicrous. Optional stuff is optional which means that it takes the low priority in everything that was ever developed, from games to buildings. Optional stuff being
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who really wanted that, it made no sense and was weird in terms of everything else going on. So yes people were pissed that was added instead of the artwork for the second Mhu'Tiki scene.

Personally in the thirty or so times I've had convos with Gab, I've enjoyed them and she seems friendly and very nice, but she brings so much of this controversy on herself with bad decisions and flawed explanations for said decisions.
 
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Honestly I used to love Gabe's work but I am getting to the point where if we don't start getting some scenes with the MC and the other characters I am gonna stop following. The worst part is we are teased all the time thinking we are going to get a scene but then nothing happens. Take this patch for example, the Pirate lady promises to fuck you and you get nothing, You successfully save all your companions from imprisonment nothing, Masquerade throws herself at you constantly nothing, and then most recently the Harpy throws herself at you and again nothing. I don't mind if the scenes are far in few apart when the quality is usually really good, but at least don't bait me every singe encounter and end of getting blue balled.
 

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I wouldn't feel bad, it needed to be said.



She's inconsistent is the real problem people are getting at. What did the second scene with Laquadia do to progress the story? What did the scene with
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blowing the disgusting horse have to do with progressing the story? What does the scenes with Gab and Farah doing performances at the nightclub do for the story, Gabrielle doing tavern challenges, Farah letting Johns feel her up in dark alleys for money and so on and so on.

Also seriously that last sentence is ludicrous. Optional stuff is optional which means that it takes the low priority in everything that was ever developed, from games to buildings. Optional stuff being
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who really wanted that, it made no sense and was weird in terms of everything else going on. So yes people were pissed that was added instead of the artwork for the second Mhu'Tiki scene.

Personally in the thirty or so times I've had convos with Gab, I've enjoyed them and she seems friendly and very nice, but she brings so much of this controversy on herself with bad decisions and flawed explanations for said decisions.
Seem's like an shitshow and I do love an good shitshow........:D............

But serious, she needs to take an stepback and have an long think about where this game is going because it's clear they she has an completely different view point on where this game is going than the people supporting it. Just needs to get some perspective the sooner the better before the constructive Comments starts getting to her.
 

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And no, I won't compromise the story, just so I can shove in some random scene here and there with the main character that adds nothing to progression.
I just don't understand this at all, there's a few scenes that add literally nothing to the story, that have nothing to do with the main character. But its ok because it's not the main character? So as long as its not the main character, scenes that are irrelevant to the story are fine, but if it involves the main character then its not? There's honestly so many ways to involve the main character into scenes that progress the story. Whether it be
Take this patch for example, the Pirate lady promises to fuck you and you get nothing, You successfully save all your companions from imprisonment nothing, Masquerade throws herself at you constantly nothing, and then most recently the Harpy throws herself at you and again nothing.
or just side quests for the females leads that ultimately end in a scene. I just find this entire statement outrageous, and I don't even care too much about the whole MC involvement thing.
 

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Seem's like an shitshow and I do love an good shitshow........:D............

But serious, she needs to take an stepback and have an long think about where this game is going because it's clear they she has an completely different view point on where this game is going than the people supporting it. Just needs to get some perspective the sooner the better before the constructive Comments starts getting to her.

I'm enjoying going back and reading every thirty minutes for the new responses more than I've enjoyed any game on this site this week.

Her defenders are now calling the dissenters entitled and that since the game is unfinished they have no reason to complain about the divide in scenes. x'D If you don't tow the line over there that means you are antagonizing Gabe. I truly despise the term with all my heart, but this is just pure white knighting.
 

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Is there any way to view scenes with text without playing a game?

Gabe is supposed to be adding that feature but like a lot of things that seems to be on the backburner until the end of this year, I'd guess.

Also still a lot of weak excuses being slung over on her blog.
 

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Gabe is supposed to be adding that feature but like a lot of things that seems to be on the backburner until the end of this year, I'd guess.

Also still a lot of weak excuses being slung over on her blog.
So, there is a chance that there will be added some option to watch the scenes with text but not any time soon?
I mean, it makes sense why she takes her time with it; this forces people to play her game instead of downloading save files.
 

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So, there is a chance that there will be added some option to watch the scenes with text but not any time soon?
I mean, it makes sense why she takes her time with it; this forces people to play her game instead of downloading save files.
Well I mean there is a save gallery, it just doesn't have text to go along with scenes. Idk If I would call adding text to that a feature, it think its more like fixing something that's been broken a long time.
 

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The fact that Gabe prioritized a scene of Kythe sucking a horse instead of the MC tells volumes.
Honestly, I don't even care about this game anymore because of Gabe cuck fetish, she will probably make that coward horseman rape all the fem characters in front of the MC out of spite.
 
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Myself, I only care about new sex scene no matter who is in it.

That and curing Kythe.
 

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I just don't understand this at all, there's a few scenes that add literally nothing to the story, that have nothing to do with the main character. But its ok because it's not the main character? So as long as its not the main character, scenes that are irrelevant to the story are fine, but if it involves the main character then its not? There's honestly so many ways to involve the main character into scenes that progress the story. Whether it be or just side quests for the females leads that ultimately end in a scene. I just find this entire statement outrageous, and I don't even care too much about the whole MC involvement thing.
I did not know that there was this much dissent over the CGs, I knew there were some arguments here and there, but I always assumed it was a vocal minority.

One thing that I feel that wastes time and effort on the production of this game is the type of art for the CGs. I don't know how much money Gabe spends to order those, but as far as I know that can be hella expensive. I think, for one, that she should reduce the CGs Artstyle down to three instead of five (I think most of the players play with the third one, by SethXZoe, if I'm not mistaken). That would be some reduction on the cost and time to produce the game, time which could be used to try and figure it out how to add more CGs involving the MC.

This is the first LoQO game that I played, but from what I read out of the threads of the other games as well from the thread of this one is that the MC of the game usually gets the short end of the stick when it comes to having sex with the female characters and party members. From what I could understand, the trouble around MC involvement in the scenes is something that has been carried from the other games as well.

The thing about MC is that we want to cause and experience the action, we need to be the active pole, if you put the MC to watch as some passive bystander for most of the game that kind of beats the point of having a MC at all. Not saying that watching is bad, it is totally understandable, especially for the things happening outside from the story of the MC group. The ratio Gabe should be aiming for is:

- 60% - 66% of the available CG does involve the MC;
- 40% - 33% of the available CG does not involve the MC;

The fact is, the MC is not involved in half of the currently available CG released with the game. As I have said before this beats the point of having a MC, especially one who takes the charge, like the ones from this series of games. As long as the ratio of CG with the involvement of the MC does not rise above 50%, flak will stil be incoming towards Gabe.

As how to involve the MC more in the scenes, one way to do it is to substitute the sprites from the tent interaction with some CG, doing this would kill two birds with one stone, seen as it involves more CG with the MC and removes the pixelated sprites (which is awkward to jerk it to). Make the MC be able to spend money in the brothel in exchange for some action. Make the women reward the MC when he saves them and/or part of the quest is finished, as has been suggested before.

I know that Gabe is concerned about the story of the game, but she need to get through her head that scenes that do nothing for the story (like Kythie/Horse BJ) are more tolerable to watch when the players are involved in them.

This is Gabe's third game on this series, so I have faith that she'll figure out ways to involve the MC more in the scenes, as long as she is willing to give thought to the suggestions given by the community.
 
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