VN Others Lending My NTR Girlfriend [v0.14.1] [phonegames]

[ffive]

He doesn't enjoys it. He was manipulated into thinking that this is all just act but the reality is they are just laughing at him behind his back for being this naive.

IIRC the game was supposed to make it clear in a recent rework that MC does enjoy the idea of his girlfriend cheating on him, and the gf is aware of it (and finds it enjoyable herself) Don't know if it's made clear enough in the actual game, but at least this is the intention.

The part about being manipulated etc seems more like a misinterpretation of the events on your part and attributing extra malice to a much simpler situation. Since we also aren't privy to anything that is actually happening behind MC's back, as all communications are with MC as the recipient, what "happens behind his back" is very much your own conjecture, isn't it?

edit: i mean you have this spelt out by the author now, literally at the very start of the game:



Even if the girlfriend is cheating on the MC "for real" he still enjoys it because this is what he finds sexual satisfaction in. "But it means he has no self respect!" Yeah, he doesn't, whatever. It's simply the sort of a person he is. He is not you, the player, but a fictional being with his own personality.

 

[Marphey]

IIRC the game was supposed to make it clear in a recent rework that MC does enjoy the idea of his girlfriend cheating on him, and the gf is aware of it (and finds it enjoyable herself) Don't know if it's made clear enough in the actual game, but at least this is the intention.

The part about being manipulated etc seems more like a misinterpretation of the events on your part and attributing extra malice to a much simpler situation. Since we also aren't privy to anything that is actually happening behind MC's back, as all communications are with MC as the recipient, what "happens behind his back" is very much your own conjecture, isn't it?

Right now you are just gaslighting me like they do it to that poor dude.

Now i don't judge anyone if you enjoy flocking your log to this go ahead but let's not pretend that this is some wholesome story about GF making her BF dreams come true because it's not it's dark story of guy being emotionally abused by people he thinks are his friends.

I can already picture the ending: She will end up pregnant with Micheal but tell he "BF" that "it's just for the show for the company" then her and Micheal will have wedding again "just for the show". She will keep sending him photos of her amazing life while the MC will just be alone in small appartment.

 

[ffive]

Right now you are just gaslighting me like they do it to that poor dude.

Now i don't judge anyone if you enjoy flocking your log to this go ahead but let's not pretend that this is some wholesome story about GF making her BF dreams come true because it's not it's dark story of guy being emotionally abused by people he thinks are his friends.

I'm posting literally what the author of the story tells you at the start of it. Do you think the author is gaslighting you about its content, as opposed to you erroneously sticking to your own misinterpretation even if it means ignoring what you're being told by the person who wrote the story?

I mean, seriously.

The author: MC enjoys being cheated on
You: No, he doesn't, he's just being manipulated.

do you think this is in any manner a reasonable stance to take?

 

[Lizzardcheese]

Correction: this is for both of their amusement. That is why he sticks around and that is why this is still a relationship, no matter how difficult it seems to be for you to grasp.

He MIGHT have enjoyed it at first, when he was still fucking her. The point of a fetish is sexual gratification. She refuses to sleep with him, anybody else who walks by sure in a heartbeat, but not him. For no reason at all except to hurt and humiliate him. If she was playing true to his fetish and not just a cheating whore she woiuldnt have stopped that. They would still be fucking and (like IRL cuck and hotwife relationships) she would describe what she does with other guys WHILE they are having sex.

His real fetish was watching her with other guys, not her cheating. All it would have taken was a conversation. But she gets off on being as abusive as possible.

 

[Lizzardcheese]

I can already picture the ending: She will end up pregnant with Micheal but tell he "BF" that "it's just for the show for the company" then her and Micheal will have wedding again "just for the show". She will keep sending him photos of her amazing life while the MC will just be alone in small appartment.

He is a full time nanny (unpaid of course) to the many children she has with Michael, boss, random guy who just said hi. They never see the kids, just bully him into raising them. They only show up to teach the kids how to bully and abuse MC.

or, what I imagine would happen irl.

MC kills himself once he realizes everyone around him hates him and it was never for him. Michael and Emily have sex on his dead body and cum on his corpse. Best friend pisses on his corpse and throws him in a dumpster. They have a party to celebrate their success in ruining his life. Game ends with them scrolling social media looking for a new target. Cue game number 2.

Makes the transition to the second game easy and isnt out of place at all in how they all feel about him.

 

[ffive]

He MIGHT have enjoyed it at first, when he was still fucking her.

There's no such caveat in the story, that MC "only enjoys it at first". He is said to enjoy it, period.

His real fetish was watching her with other guys, not her cheating. All it would have taken was a conversation. But she gets off on being as abusive as possible.

This is MC's actual fetish, in his own words. When you are arguing otherwise, i think you might be projecting your own preferences (NTS?) on him and ignoring his actual personality and words.

Regarding the conversation, you have it now as a choice early on:



Either the gf knows that MC gets off on these things and is happy to play along, including the humiliation etc, or she doesn't know and just cheats on the MC and enjoys humiliating him "for real". But either way it is the experience the MC likes and chooses to perpetuate, potentially by "playing dumb" on the NTR route.

That is the setup in the current build of the game. Which is admittedly a little different (or at least made more clear) compared to early iterations.

 

[Marphey]

I'm posting literally what the author of the story tells you at the start of it. Do you think the author is gaslighting you about its content, as opposed to you erroneously sticking to your own misinterpretation even if it means ignoring what you're being told by the person who wrote the story?

I mean, seriously.

The author: MC enjoys being cheated on
You: No, he doesn't, he's just being manipulated.

do you think this is in any manner a reasonable stance to take?

Lizzardcheese said it perfectly. She no longer sleeps with him, no longer going on dates with him not even spend anytime with him all his "friends" are hanging out without him and just sending him pictures of the stuff they are doing. Right now he is no longer her boyfriend he might as well be just her correspondence buddy.

 

[Lizzardcheese]

That is the setup in the current build of the game. Which is admittedly a little different (or at least made more clear) compared to early iterations.

I'll give you that. Havent replayed the beginning since it was changed. It used to be watching/thinking about her with other guys. I see now he changed it to just cheating to fit the narrative.

Still doesnt explain her not fucking him anymore or making him pretend to be gay. Or refusing to even hang out with him.

 

[La Dani]

Girlfriend is a slut, but she dows it for her boyfriend.
So, is she really a slut ?
Uhmmm

 

[packard1928]

will not start for me ??

 

[Lizzardcheese]

Girlfriend is a slut, but she dows it for her boyfriend.
So, is she really a slut ?
Uhmmm

She's not doing it for the bf. Thats why she never asks him or talks about it before cheating. And cheating every day. It's for her and Michael.

 

[ky0usuke]

Is there actual penetration already or none yet? Last update I played was the cooking lesson thingy.
I dont mind spoilers so...

 

[Chaoticjustice]

Right even if she's doing it for him , the fact they now spend zero time together or do anything remotely close to what couples would do , pretty much invalidates the relationship

Best case scenario there relationship dynamic is like that of a prison penpal except it's all about NTS and her banging other people and he's also not in prison

 

[Hiyamana]

I'm posting literally what the author of the story tells you at the start of it. Do you think the author is gaslighting you about its content, as opposed to you erroneously sticking to your own misinterpretation even if it means ignoring what you're being told by the person who wrote the story?

I mean, seriously.

The author: MC enjoys being cheated on
You: No, he doesn't, he's just being manipulated.

do you think this is in any manner a reasonable stance to take?

Then the author is at fault for presenting a story that is CLEARLY bullying and manipulation. He is treated like shit, beyond the sex. If it was a kink about cheating fair enough but they literally treat him like nothing about him is worthy of their attention

 

[Marphey]

Then the author is at fault for presenting a story that is CLEARLY bullying and manipulation. He is treated like shit, beyond the sex. If it was a kink about cheating fair enough but they literally treat him like nothing about him is worthy of their attention

Pretty much this. This whole thing feels like NTR epilogue the dude is pretty much not important for anyone of the anymore they pretty much replace him with Micheal with in every sense.

 

[Drak0nz]

Then the author is at fault for presenting a story that is CLEARLY bullying and manipulation. He is treated like shit, beyond the sex. If it was a kink about cheating fair enough but they literally treat him like nothing about him is worthy of their attention

Anything other than a total re-write of the game as is will just amount to gaslighting - And I dont want that. I want the story to acknowledge and resolve that the MC is surrounded by people that actually fuckin' hate his guts and are just using him for their gratification while gaslighting him into thinking it's the reverse.

Would be better if it was just a kinetic novel based on that if OP is incapable/unwilling to actually make and manage split routes (understandable, its a lot of work. but make that decision, this stupid thin veneer claiming to be a 'route' just hurts the story.)

 

[Thatguy8888]

Again, the point is that MC is into this kind of relationship and it's something he enjoys. You are basically arguing that a masochist in relationship with a sadist should break it up because "it's not a relationship of any kind and it's toxic". While it's simply an arrangement that you personally don't enjoy, unlike the MC.

I would argue that he doesn't enjoy it. Thinks its hot? Sure. But he clearly does have issue with her cheating on him, on an emotional level. Its the difference between a fantasy and just being straight lied to and manipulated.

 

[roleplaygame]

Hi y'all, creator of the game here.

Every time that I release a new version of the game here is like that. I need to come and explain over and over again what the game is about, even that I'm already making it very very VERY clear at this moment.

If I'm sounding impatience, is because I am. Last update I had a lot of accusations about "isn't clear that he is in conflict!", and there I was showing A LOT of snippets of the game showing MC's conflicts.

Now the issue is "everyone is gaslighting him and this is a toxic relationship". Which isn't new either, but you're insisting on it this time.

I'm too tired by this time of the day to prove you the contrary, but there are a lot of lines of dialogue that MC and Emily are a happy couple that love each other and want to spend more time together. Same for where he says he likes what happening to him. The current version of the game is very clear that he likes humiliation. The sex denial is part of the humiliation and that's why he didn't insist in having sex with her when she doesn't want. HE LIKES THE HUMILIATION.

For those who says that "they're not a couple anymore because they don't even date anymore etc etc etc", I clearly show that days is passing by. Whenever a big time leap happens I always start a conversation with "3 days later" or something. So you know days has gone. What are you expecting from the game, that I show this message like 10 times so I'm sure you get it? And if days has gone, you can admit anything you want happened to them in this time. They live together, they don't need to message each other for everything else that they'll do in their lives. In chapter 13 MC says that "they did grocery shopping 2 days ago" and I never released this information up to this point because it wasn't needed. This is a porn game at the end, I don't want to write about normal day life. If you're looking for this type of game with a slow buildup, please, I'm sure you already know this game isn't for you.

I read a comment here from someone showing that adding confrontation would increase the humiliation and I totally love this idea and I want to add it because of what he said (sorry if it was you and you're reading this, I'll definitelly look for you username later! ), but the reason is still for humiliation. We have a good community over Patreon and Discord that likes this about this game.

I can't believe I need to be in the position to say that, but there are a LOT other phone games out there that you can check it and see if it will fit better in your pleasures:

NTR Phone (The first of us all) by ShyBox
Netorase Phone by LeStag
NTR Mobile by NosyFellow
My girlfriend's streaming career by Viviny
Fetish Phone
NekoNTR by Nekoaddict
Sexting my GF by Unzipped Games
NetoPhone Stories by KTRGames

And many more. Go check them out, they're all great games. But please, if they don't fit in your own personal kink, don't review bomb them as there are people that like their kink and can think don't fit their own fetish because of the low score.

I know that I'm sounding rude, but I'm tired of keep returning here every time to justify the kink that I'm writing instead of talk about situations about the game or real bugs that I need to fix.

And looks like everything here needs to be VERY CLEAR, so here is clear: I'm not saying you only need to talk about good things about the game, but I'm saying your critics usually is 99% about the kink of the game and how you can't stand it. If you don't like or can't stand, the game is definitely not for you. And again, I can't believe I need to be in the position of telling you that if you don't like something, this something is simply not for you. You don't go a femboy VN game thread and ask to add a different route where the femboys are all girls because you really liked the art but can't stand with femboys. (Go Team Femboy! )

I won't change the game to satisfy some of you. NTR, humiliation, sex denial and others, are part of what I'm writing. It's a kinect game, I don't want to write different routes for this story. Is is tagged as kinect.

Again, sorry for sounding rude, but I don't know what else I need to say or do to show that I won't change the core kinks of the game.

 

[baited92]

Hi y'all, creator of the game here.

...

D/w mate, you're doing good.

 

[Lizzardcheese]

Hi y'all, creator of the game here.

Every time that I release a new version of the game here is like that. I need to come and explain over and over again what the game is about, even that I'm already making it very very VERY clear at this moment.

If I'm sounding impatience, is because I am. Last update I had a lot of accusations about "isn't clear that he is in conflict!", and there I was showing A LOT of snippets of the game showing MC's conflicts.

Now the issue is "everyone is gaslighting him and this is a toxic relationship". Which isn't new either, but you're insisting on it this time.

I'm too tired by this time of the day to prove you the contrary, but there are a lot of lines of dialogue that MC and Emily are a happy couple that love each other and want to spend more time together. Same for where he says he likes what happening to him. The current version of the game is very clear that he likes humiliation. The sex denial is part of the humiliation and that's why he didn't insist in having sex with her when she doesn't want. HE LIKES THE HUMILIATION.

For those who says that "they're not a couple anymore because they don't even date anymore etc etc etc", I clearly show that days is passing by. Whenever a big time leap happens I always start a conversation with "3 days later" or something. So you know days has gone. What are you expecting from the game, that I show this message like 10 times so I'm sure you get it? And if days has gone, you can admit anything you want happened to them in this time. They live together, they don't need to message each other for everything else that they'll do in their lives. In chapter 13 MC says that "they did grocery shopping 2 days ago" and I never released this information up to this point because it wasn't needed. This is a porn game at the end, I don't want to write about normal day life. If you're looking for this type of game with a slow buildup, please, I'm sure you already know this game isn't for you.

I read a comment here from someone showing that adding confrontation would increase the humiliation and I totally love this idea and I want to add it because of what he said (sorry if it was you and you're reading this, I'll definitelly look for you username later! ), but the reason is still for humiliation. We have a good community over Patreon and Discord that likes this about this game.

I can't believe I need to be in the position to say that, but there are a LOT other phone games out there that you can check it and see if it will fit better in your pleasures:

NTR Phone (The first of us all) by ShyBox
Netorase Phone by LeStag
NTR Mobile by NosyFellow
My girlfriend's streaming career by Viviny
Fetish Phone
NekoNTR by Nekoaddict
Sexting my GF by Unzipped Games
NetoPhone Stories by KTRGames

And many more. Go check them out, they're all great games. But please, if they don't fit in your own personal kink, don't review bomb them as there are people that like their kink and can think don't fit their own fetish because of the low score.

I know that I'm sounding rude, but I'm tired of keep returning here every time to justify the kink that I'm writing instead of talk about situations about the game or real bugs that I need to fix.

And looks like everything here needs to be VERY CLEAR, so here is clear: I'm not saying you only need to talk about good things about the game, but I'm saying your critics usually is 99% about the kink of the game and how you can't stand it. If you don't like or can't stand, the game is definitely not for you. And again, I can't believe I need to be in the position of telling you that if you don't like something, this something is simply not for you. You don't go a femboy VN game thread and ask to add a different route where the femboys are all girls because you really liked the art but can't stand with femboys. (Go Team Femboy! )

I won't change the game to satisfy some of you. NTR, humiliation, sex denial and others, are part of what I'm writing. It's a kinect game, I don't want to write different routes for this story. Is is tagged as kinect.

Again, sorry for sounding rude, but I don't know what else I need to say or do to show that I won't change the core kinks of the game.

All it would take is one conversation with Emily about the sex denial or really anything. One text while she's fucking someone else or anything to actually make it humiliation. Talking about how anybody with a pulse but MC can fuck her. Right now, from MC perspective things like the sex denial doesnt seem part of it because it isn't brought up as part of it. It's not clear and comes off her just being well mean and slutty. A lot of these things arnt clear. You say she loves him but havent put in one nice or sweet scene since she became superslut. It's your game of course. Just giving tips to help your biggest criticisms. And I think that is lack of clarity. Going from wanting to watch her cheat, to her just cheating every day and him being into it is one thing. But we never got a proper convo that he wanted everybody around him to treat him like dogshit. A simple convo with the best friend saying he wants that, to tell her to make sure emily and michael know he wants to be treated like shit would eliminate all that talk.

YOU as the writer know all these things, so it might be easy in your head to see it. From a player perspective it doesnt exist. Especially the no sex and the constant torture/humiliation. And that makes sense, of course to you everything behind the scenes connects. But playing it, it just looks like they all hate him without any connection but "ruin his life".

One last thing, Most of us debating DO like the game. But its fun debating motives and what-ifs. Especially since you dont give us those motives. You made a game about the worlds biggest slut, of course we are gonna call her a slut. You never show she cares about him at all, so of course we can comment that she hates him. Because thats what you show, you show everybody treating him like shit without a reason or tender or even halfway nice scenes between. His "best friend" hasnt been nice to him once in the game. If you show us motive/his desire to be dirt, show us anything really it shuts all that discourse up. Keep making your game. But know all the talking shit about Emily and co isnt badmouthing you or your game. You made every character Joffery Barathan or Ramsey Bolton and we play as Sansa. It's going to get people talking, but just because you hate a character doesnt mean you hate a show or a game.