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ffive

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He doesn't enjoys it. He was manipulated into thinking that this is all just act but the reality is they are just laughing at him behind his back for being this naive.
IIRC the game was supposed to make it clear in a recent rework that MC does enjoy the idea of his girlfriend cheating on him, and the gf is aware of it (and finds it enjoyable herself) Don't know if it's made clear enough in the actual game, but at least this is the intention.

The part about being manipulated etc seems more like a misinterpretation of the events on your part and attributing extra malice to a much simpler situation. Since we also aren't privy to anything that is actually happening behind MC's back, as all communications are with MC as the recipient, what "happens behind his back" is very much your own conjecture, isn't it?

edit: i mean you have this spelt out by the author now, literally at the very start of the game:

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Even if the girlfriend is cheating on the MC "for real" he still enjoys it because this is what he finds sexual satisfaction in. "But it means he has no self respect!" Yeah, he doesn't, whatever. It's simply the sort of a person he is. He is not you, the player, but a fictional being with his own personality.
 
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IIRC the game was supposed to make it clear in a recent rework that MC does enjoy the idea of his girlfriend cheating on him, and the gf is aware of it (and finds it enjoyable herself) Don't know if it's made clear enough in the actual game, but at least this is the intention.

The part about being manipulated etc seems more like a misinterpretation of the events on your part and attributing extra malice to a much simpler situation. Since we also aren't privy to anything that is actually happening behind MC's back, as all communications are with MC as the recipient, what "happens behind his back" is very much your own conjecture, isn't it?
Right now you are just gaslighting me like they do it to that poor dude.

Now i don't judge anyone if you enjoy flocking your log to this go ahead but let's not pretend that this is some wholesome story about GF making her BF dreams come true because it's not it's dark story of guy being emotionally abused by people he thinks are his friends.

I can already picture the ending: She will end up pregnant with Micheal but tell he "BF" that "it's just for the show for the company" then her and Micheal will have wedding again "just for the show". She will keep sending him photos of her amazing life while the MC will just be alone in small appartment.
 

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Right now you are just gaslighting me like they do it to that poor dude.

Now i don't judge anyone if you enjoy flocking your log to this go ahead but let's not pretend that this is some wholesome story about GF making her BF dreams come true because it's not it's dark story of guy being emotionally abused by people he thinks are his friends.
I'm posting literally what the author of the story tells you at the start of it. Do you think the author is gaslighting you about its content, as opposed to you erroneously sticking to your own misinterpretation even if it means ignoring what you're being told by the person who wrote the story?

I mean, seriously.

The author: MC enjoys being cheated on
You: No, he doesn't, he's just being manipulated.

do you think this is in any manner a reasonable stance to take?
 

Lizzardcheese

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Correction: this is for both of their amusement. That is why he sticks around and that is why this is still a relationship, no matter how difficult it seems to be for you to grasp.
He MIGHT have enjoyed it at first, when he was still fucking her. The point of a fetish is sexual gratification. She refuses to sleep with him, anybody else who walks by sure in a heartbeat, but not him. For no reason at all except to hurt and humiliate him. If she was playing true to his fetish and not just a cheating whore she woiuldnt have stopped that. They would still be fucking and (like IRL cuck and hotwife relationships) she would describe what she does with other guys WHILE they are having sex.

His real fetish was watching her with other guys, not her cheating. All it would have taken was a conversation. But she gets off on being as abusive as possible.
 
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Lizzardcheese

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I can already picture the ending: She will end up pregnant with Micheal but tell he "BF" that "it's just for the show for the company" then her and Micheal will have wedding again "just for the show". She will keep sending him photos of her amazing life while the MC will just be alone in small appartment.
He is a full time nanny (unpaid of course) to the many children she has with Michael, boss, random guy who just said hi. They never see the kids, just bully him into raising them. They only show up to teach the kids how to bully and abuse MC.

or, what I imagine would happen irl.

MC kills himself once he realizes everyone around him hates him and it was never for him. Michael and Emily have sex on his dead body and cum on his corpse. Best friend pisses on his corpse and throws him in a dumpster. They have a party to celebrate their success in ruining his life. Game ends with them scrolling social media looking for a new target. Cue game number 2.

Makes the transition to the second game easy and isnt out of place at all in how they all feel about him.
 

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He MIGHT have enjoyed it at first, when he was still fucking her.
There's no such caveat in the story, that MC "only enjoys it at first". He is said to enjoy it, period.

His real fetish was watching her with other guys, not her cheating. All it would have taken was a conversation. But she gets off on being as abusive as possible.
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This is MC's actual fetish, in his own words. When you are arguing otherwise, i think you might be projecting your own preferences (NTS?) on him and ignoring his actual personality and words.

Regarding the conversation, you have it now as a choice early on:

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Either the gf knows that MC gets off on these things and is happy to play along, including the humiliation etc, or she doesn't know and just cheats on the MC and enjoys humiliating him "for real". But either way it is the experience the MC likes and chooses to perpetuate, potentially by "playing dumb" on the NTR route.

That is the setup in the current build of the game. Which is admittedly a little different (or at least made more clear) compared to early iterations.
 

Marphey

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I'm posting literally what the author of the story tells you at the start of it. Do you think the author is gaslighting you about its content, as opposed to you erroneously sticking to your own misinterpretation even if it means ignoring what you're being told by the person who wrote the story?

I mean, seriously.

The author: MC enjoys being cheated on
You: No, he doesn't, he's just being manipulated.

do you think this is in any manner a reasonable stance to take?
Lizzardcheese said it perfectly. She no longer sleeps with him, no longer going on dates with him not even spend anytime with him all his "friends" are hanging out without him and just sending him pictures of the stuff they are doing. Right now he is no longer her boyfriend he might as well be just her correspondence buddy.
 
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Lizzardcheese

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That is the setup in the current build of the game. Which is admittedly a little different (or at least made more clear) compared to early iterations.
I'll give you that. Havent replayed the beginning since it was changed. It used to be watching/thinking about her with other guys. I see now he changed it to just cheating to fit the narrative.

Still doesnt explain her not fucking him anymore or making him pretend to be gay. Or refusing to even hang out with him.
 
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Girlfriend is a slut, but she dows it for her boyfriend.
So, is she really a slut ?
Uhmmm
 

Lizzardcheese

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Girlfriend is a slut, but she dows it for her boyfriend.
So, is she really a slut ?
Uhmmm
She's not doing it for the bf. Thats why she never asks him or talks about it before cheating. And cheating every day. It's for her and Michael.
 

ky0usuke

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Is there actual penetration already or none yet? Last update I played was the cooking lesson thingy.
I dont mind spoilers so...
 

Chaoticjustice

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Right even if she's doing it for him , the fact they now spend zero time together or do anything remotely close to what couples would do , pretty much invalidates the relationship

Best case scenario there relationship dynamic is like that of a prison penpal except it's all about NTS and her banging other people and he's also not in prison :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

Hiyamana

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I'm posting literally what the author of the story tells you at the start of it. Do you think the author is gaslighting you about its content, as opposed to you erroneously sticking to your own misinterpretation even if it means ignoring what you're being told by the person who wrote the story?

I mean, seriously.

The author: MC enjoys being cheated on
You: No, he doesn't, he's just being manipulated.

do you think this is in any manner a reasonable stance to take?

Then the author is at fault for presenting a story that is CLEARLY bullying and manipulation. He is treated like shit, beyond the sex. If it was a kink about cheating fair enough but they literally treat him like nothing about him is worthy of their attention
 

Marphey

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Then the author is at fault for presenting a story that is CLEARLY bullying and manipulation. He is treated like shit, beyond the sex. If it was a kink about cheating fair enough but they literally treat him like nothing about him is worthy of their attention
Pretty much this. This whole thing feels like NTR epilogue the dude is pretty much not important for anyone nymore they pretty much replace him with Micheal in every sense.
 
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Then the author is at fault for presenting a story that is CLEARLY bullying and manipulation. He is treated like shit, beyond the sex. If it was a kink about cheating fair enough but they literally treat him like nothing about him is worthy of their attention
Anything other than a total re-write of the game as is will just amount to gaslighting - And I dont want that. I want the story to acknowledge and resolve that the MC is surrounded by people that actually fuckin' hate his guts and are just using him for their gratification while gaslighting him into thinking it's the reverse.

Would be better if it was just a kinetic novel based on that if OP is incapable/unwilling to actually make and manage split routes (understandable, its a lot of work. but make that decision, this stupid thin veneer claiming to be a 'route' just hurts the story.)
 

Thatguy8888

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Again, the point is that MC is into this kind of relationship and it's something he enjoys. You are basically arguing that a masochist in relationship with a sadist should break it up because "it's not a relationship of any kind and it's toxic". While it's simply an arrangement that you personally don't enjoy, unlike the MC.
I would argue that he doesn't enjoy it. Thinks its hot? Sure. But he clearly does have issue with her cheating on him, on an emotional level. Its the difference between a fantasy and just being straight lied to and manipulated.
 

ffive

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I'm new to this so what are the routes? and nope mean to what and yes... mean to what?
You can see the hint on choice buttons in that screenshot. If you tell the friend yes, she will inform the girlfriend about MC's fetish and you get a a little gentler, NTS-like path where the girlfriend puts on a cheating act. (that is to say, she fucks the other guy(s) but it's with consent from MC) If you keep MC's kink a secret then you get regular NTR path, with girlfriend actually cheating on MC, while MC pretends not to realize what's going on because he gets off on what the gf is doing.
 
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Tinyk

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Okay, then i'll just stop trying to tell you the problem and ignore the game, much like you ignore the actual points people make every update.
I totally agree with you. It's not about the genre of the game itself, it's about the main character reactions.
He agreed to something but the thing he has as a Gf overstepped every boundary, doesn't even show him an ounce of respect by her actions, she's a liar, a cheater and he's the king of the doormats, barely reacting to obvious rules being broken.
It's not an humiliation kink it's a "stupid as fuck' kink.

According to the current events the only ending available should be MC raising her wife's affair babies , paying for anything for her and the babies, while working at home babysitting the children , living in a closet while Michael fuck the 4th time pregnant gf in the main bedroom.

At less, he would have grown a backbone
 

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Anyone else having issues with the Android APKs? I can only get it to download from one site as a zip file but it won’t extract as an APK from Viking. Every other site gives a 404 error or won’t open at all.
 
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