LooLoo Baloo

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Been said here by someone else, but one improvement would be immersion not being killed constantly. It starts to kill any feeling you have for anything that happens when repeated. Ruins any sense of shock or affection for the story

Other than that, I liked this update, and I can't wait for the Halloween update, Molly moved from a B to an A*
 
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We've got a Halloween update coming next, and a Christmas update likely coming at the end of the year (Selebus hasn't added that to the schedule yet, but the schedule only goes through Dec 1). Last year, the beach, Halloween, and Christmas events set up all the drama that played out through the rest of the year, and I kind of expect that pattern to repeat this year. I don't think we'll see a Bluejay-type event until January, but I also think once all those events are over, we'll see MORE of those types of events than we did last year, and I would be shocked if the next time a reset rolls around we don't see multiple girls find themselves on the rooftop.
Halloween and Christmas is good and all, especially since Selebus makes tons of progress in a year, but I kinda doubt it will be that great for new players. Many devs "cut" such updates when the time for them is past for a reason. Well, at least it can be explained with all the "time" shenanigans, but I kinda doubt its a good way to go. Maybe its better to make such updates once every 2 years so there is more time to prepare and have less loose ends.
 

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Halloween and Christmas is good and all, especially since Selebus makes tons of progress in a year, but I kinda doubt it will be that great for new players. Many devs "cut" such updates when the time for them is past for a reason. Well, at least it can be explained with all the "time" shenanigans, but I kinda doubt its a good way to go. Maybe its better to make such updates once every 2 years so there is more time to prepare and have less loose ends.
But the passage of time and it's shitfuckery is a fundamental conceit of the narrative. Time has to pass in the game to show that there is a loop.

As opposed to the characters saying "it has now been 3 months since the start of the year" major cultural events are a pretty slick way of showing time pass.

Plus my enjoyment of media does not require the time of year in said media to be the same as my time. There is no reason to refuse to acknowledge the existence of Halloween and Christmas for the other 10 months of the year.
 

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Halloween and Christmas is good and all, especially since Selebus makes tons of progress in a year, but I kinda doubt it will be that great for new players. Many devs "cut" such updates when the time for them is past for a reason. Well, at least it can be explained with all the "time" shenanigans, but I kinda doubt its a good way to go. Maybe its better to make such updates once every 2 years so there is more time to prepare and have less loose ends.
Most holiday events in these games exist as bonus content for patrons and does not factor into the plot at all.

Last year's holiday events very specifically set up events that transpired later on -- the Halloween event set up Makoto's arc through Bluejay, the Christmas event kicked off the tension between Rin and Molly that blew up last update. I expect the same this year.

The fact that the girls are now going through their second Halloween together in the same school year is also a red flag to the characters that have the awareness to pay attention to these things, just like the midwinter beach trip was. it's a clue that something isn't normal. There shouldn't be two Halloweens (or two Christmases) in the same academic year. So there's a pretty significant amount of relevance to these events happening.
 

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sooo... sana
I'm not to happy with a theory I came up with because it makes me very upset.

Sara's 'son' dies, its really her daughter, her son has survivors guilt, dissociates, and starts wearing dresses insisting that he is sana because he wishes he died in her place. The military wouldn't take him because he is trans. Selebus is drawing out sana's story line to mind fuck everyone.
What is the justification behind this theory? There's usually something that causes such theories to form within the actual canon.

Been said here by someone else, but one improvement would be immersion not being killed constantly. It starts to kill any feeling you have for anything that happens when repeated. Ruins any sense of shock or affection for the story

Other than that, I liked this update, and I can't wait for the Halloween update, Molly moved from a B to an A*
Does it? I have never had this happen and I'm not sure what you are saying is causing it since immersion can be lost through basically any aspect.

Halloween and Christmas is good and all, especially since Selebus makes tons of progress in a year, but I kinda doubt it will be that great for new players. Many devs "cut" such updates when the time for them is past for a reason. Well, at least it can be explained with all the "time" shenanigans, but I kinda doubt its a good way to go. Maybe its better to make such updates once every 2 years so there is more time to prepare and have less loose ends.
But the passage of time and it's shitfuckery is a fundamental conceit of the narrative. Time has to pass in the game to show that there is a loop.

As opposed to the characters saying "it has now been 3 months since the start of the year" major cultural events are a pretty slick way of showing time pass.

Plus my enjoyment of media does not require the time of year in said media to be the same as my time. There is no reason to refuse to acknowledge the existence of Halloween and Christmas for the other 10 months of the year.
Most holiday events in these games exist as bonus content for patrons and does not factor into the plot at all.

Last year's holiday events very specifically set up events that transpired later on -- the Halloween event set up Makoto's arc through Bluejay, the Christmas event kicked off the tension between Rin and Molly that blew up last update. I expect the same this year.

The fact that the girls are now going through their second Halloween together in the same school year is also a red flag to the characters that have the awareness to pay attention to these things, just like the midwinter beach trip was. it's a clue that something isn't normal. There shouldn't be two Halloweens (or two Christmases) in the same academic year. So there's a pretty significant amount of relevance to these events happening.
Indeed, we do have to remember that time does not flow the same in this game's world as it does normally due to all the resets. There are, in fact, events that happen a certain way BECAUSE there is a sense it happened before, because it did and a reset occurred, taking them to a point before the events in question. With that, he could very easily create a moment of deja vu within the story and I can actually see some very interesting Denpa like methods of doing so, like things not quite being the same, but instead being a bit more off as the world continues to fall apart.
 
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Well, its great and all but Christmas was not that long ago storywise (I guess?). There is still snow, there was no summer or autumn. I just kinda assumed its near spring but quite far away from another autumn (when Halloween usually is)
Well, lets count that as another glitch in the matrix then. Or maybe I forgot about something, fair assumption.
Again, for us, average players that play this game for about half a year+ it feels like eons ago, but new players will notice that and it can break the immersion.
 

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Well, its great and all but Christmas was not that long ago storywise (I guess?). There is still snow, there was no summer or autumn. I just kinda assumed its near spring but quite far away from another autumn (when Halloween usually is)
Well, lets count that as another glitch in the matrix then. Or maybe I forgot about something, fair assumption.
Again, for us, average players that play this game for about half a year+ it feels like eons ago, but new players will notice that and it can break the immersion.
Time in Lordran Kumon-mi is convoluted.
 

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This game is too WHITE for my liking so i made a dark mod for myself which is more pleasing to my eyes. It turned out decent so thought of sharing it here.

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View attachment Lessons in Love Dark mod.rar

If you're using guide mod drop this file to
game\progress mod\

The progress_screen.rpy together with the guide mod is very out of date and will break the guide mod.

View attachment progress_screen.rpy

rename the downloaded file to progress_screen.rpy
 
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90210nyc

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Day 540
Eff & Lst Points on all characters are already way higher than required (how could they not be at day 540?)

The following events will not trigger:
As Loud as a Whisper Can be
[for Maki] Maki Miyamura's Mom Mode Mission
[for Makoto] Bluejay (Happy Event, Miku progress needed)
[for Miku] One. Two. Three. (Happy Event progress needed)

Guide says the "xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" is required and is found on the Invite Over selection,...but the selection never appears as an option.

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barglenarglezous

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Eff & Lst Points on all characters are already way higher than required (how could they not be at day 540?)

The following events will not trigger:
As Loud as a Whisper Can be
[for Maki] Maki Miyamura's Mom Mode Mission
[for Makoto] Bluejay (Happy Event, Miku progress needed)
[for Miku] One. Two. Three. (Happy Event progress needed)

Guide says the "xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" is required and is found on the Invite Over selection,...but the selection never appears as an option.
The Maki event is blocking main event As Loud as a Whisper Can Be. The Maki event may be day-limited (only available during certain nights). Try visiting the porn shop every night for a week to see if that dislodges that.

The XXXXXXXXXXX only appears on Saturday or Sunday. Since it only appears on weekends, it may also only appear in the morning or afternoon.

That's all I can think of.
 
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The Maki event is blocking main event As Loud as a Whisper Can Be. The Maki event may be day-limited (only available during certain nights). Try visiting the porn shop every night for a week to see if that dislodges that.

The XXXXXXXXXXX only appears on Saturday or Sunday. Since it only appears on weekends, it may also only appear in the morning or afternoon.

That's all I can think of.
The "Invite over" only seems to appear at night. So there is one on Sat and one on Sun. XXXXXXXXXXX is not an option in either. Repeated it for weeks.

Went to the Shop all 7 days everytime it was available on the menu. Chose "Maki" every time. Nothing.
 

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What is the justification behind this theory? There's usually something that causes such theories to form within the actual canon.
not much.
Selebus is a troll at times. This popped into my head when reading the 4th wall breaking text where he mocks people that download games with the incest tag without reading the summary because there is a large group that see the futa/trans tag and refuse to download a game. Seemed like something he would do like 2 years into the game to screw with people. We also have little development in any kind of physical relationship with Sana yet despite the long time knowing her so it might be a plot device that might throw people off the game. This could be the reason for long delays in her relationship progress so selebus gets maximum reaction from his still growing viewer base.
In game I have little to anything to really point at because selebus seems to have done his best to drip sana's background into a cup. Wearing her 'brothers' uniform to work and her reactions when brought up can be signs pointing to her mental disassociation, but it could also be something else entirely. Sara is dirt poor, I doubt she could invest money in a new outfit for her 'daughter', she also is a very go with the flow attitude and would go with any justification sana came up with for still wearing her old outfit as long as she was 'happy'. Also her overly masculine male orc DnD character who has had an appendage amputated would be a fairly apt literary analogy.
This is also probably 100% wrong. but would be a great joke/troll to bug selebus with till he does something with sana finally. Considering how much he trolls us
 
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What's funny is, I probably understand Rin the best of all the characters. I have suffered from severe clinical depression and bipolar episodes since I was in my early teens. I never turned to direct self harm like she does, but instead took the road of violence and high risk - drugs, alcohol, fighting, street racing, motorcycle racing, dangerous sports. When I loved; it was all-out obsession to the point of ruining friendships. Fortunately I learned to control things as I got older. I viewed it as "caging the beast" and still do. People around me helped me greatly and I eventually got professional medical help. I am at a much better place now. Playing LiL is difficult sometimes, but also cathartic - it feels like someone else understands. Without the right support (friends, family, professional) it's a road that quite often leads to a cliff. Of all the people in the game I do NOT want Sensei to be a shithead to - it's Rin

aaaaaaaaaand on a more upbeat note -

Molly being all mature after the Rin thing, and with her hair down - major turn on. She has boosted WAY up the list of girls now
She has gone from "cute but annoying redhead" to being on the "favorites list" :love::ROFLMAO:
 

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This may be a dumb question, but how can I reset the game completely? I stoped playing halfway through the game some months ago and now I have time to play again, but I want to start everything from scratch, what archives should I delete? Tries deleting the save folder, but the saves are still there once I open the game.
 

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This may be a dumb question, but how can I reset the game completely? I stoped playing halfway through the game some months ago and now I have time to play again, but I want to start everything from scratch, what archives should I delete? Tries deleting the save folder, but the saves are still there once I open the game.
Saves are stored by RenPy in a OS-specific folder. You can just hit new game and ignore the saves; the only effect is that content will be skippable without "Skip Unseen Text" enabled. On Linux distros, it's under ~/.renpy; from what little I know of Windows, it's probably in AppData or something?
 
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Well, its great and all but Christmas was not that long ago storywise (I guess?). There is still snow, there was no summer or autumn. I just kinda assumed its near spring but quite far away from another autumn (when Halloween usually is)
Well, lets count that as another glitch in the matrix then. Or maybe I forgot about something, fair assumption.
Again, for us, average players that play this game for about half a year+ it feels like eons ago, but new players will notice that and it can break the immersion.
It wasn't that long ago in the previous cycle, but there has been at least one reset since and those tend to mess with the timeline.

Time in Lordran Kumon-mi is convoluted.
Very much so with these resets.

not much.
Selebus is a troll at times. This popped into my head when reading the 4th wall breaking text where he mocks people that download games with the incest tag without reading the summary because there is a large group that see the futa/trans tag and refuse to download a game. Seemed like something he would do like 2 years into the game to screw with people. We also have little development in any kind of physical relationship with Sana yet despite the long time knowing her so it might be a plot device that might throw people off the game. This could be the reason for long delays in her relationship progress so selebus gets maximum reaction from his still growing viewer base.
In game I have little to anything to really point at because selebus seems to have done his best to drip sana's background into a cup. Wearing her 'brothers' uniform to work and her reactions when brought up can be signs pointing to her mental disassociation, but it could also be something else entirely. Sara is dirt poor, I doubt she could invest money in a new outfit for her 'daughter', she also is a very go with the flow attitude and would go with any justification sana came up with for still wearing her old outfit as long as she was 'happy'. Also her overly masculine male orc DnD character who has had an appendage amputated would be a fairly apt literary analogy.
This is also probably 100% wrong. but would be a great joke/troll to bug selebus with till he does something with sana finally. Considering how much he trolls us
I can definitely see the buildup for reaction. I still can't quite see the brother as being the one alive and not Sana, I still think it's actually her and the brother is actually dead.

i just started playing this and was completely caught off guard by the horror elements, and i absolutely love it. was this inspired by ddlc by any chance?
Selebus has mentioned that one on more than one occasion, yes.

What's funny is, I probably understand Rin the best of all the characters. I have suffered from severe clinical depression and bipolar episodes since I was in my early teens. I never turned to direct self harm like she does, but instead took the road of violence and high risk - drugs, alcohol, fighting, street racing, motorcycle racing, dangerous sports. When I loved; it was all-out obsession to the point of ruining friendships. Fortunately I learned to control things as I got older. I viewed it as "caging the beast" and still do. People around me helped me greatly and I eventually got professional medical help. I am at a much better place now. Playing LiL is difficult sometimes, but also cathartic - it feels like someone else understands. Without the right support (friends, family, professional) it's a road that quite often leads to a cliff. Of all the people in the game I do NOT want Sensei to be a shithead to - it's Rin

aaaaaaaaaand on a more upbeat note -

Molly being all mature after the Rin thing, and with her hair down - major turn on. She has boosted WAY up the list of girls now
She has gone from "cute but annoying redhead" to being on the "favorites list" :love::ROFLMAO:
So, basically, her fixation on Otoha and previously on Chika is not so out of the question. I definitely don't want player Sensei to be a shithead to any of the girls, but player Sensei is going to be player Sensei. Molly definitely got major points with me over the last couple updates.

This may be a dumb question, but how can I reset the game completely? I stoped playing halfway through the game some months ago and now I have time to play again, but I want to start everything from scratch, what archives should I delete? Tries deleting the save folder, but the saves are still there once I open the game.
No need, just start a new game and save over the old one. There isn't anything that carries over between saves.
 
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