Eh, I'd say it's still different. Nodoka was clearly making a guess, not a joke, and she had just finished giving off a string of eerily accurate answers that she also shouldn't have known. Everyone present seemed to be taking it seriously, even if they possibly weren't sure it was true. They just don't mention it during Nodokathon. So yeah I'd just go with bad writing.
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I've noticed that the girls really don't care about anyone else besides Akira and their dorm roommate. If Nodoka had done that to any other girl then Uta probably would have shown up. I'm not saying that they don't like the other girls but there's definitely a lot more distance between them then the interactions we see let on.
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Which event is this?
I was keen on dismantling this theory, but the only thing I dismantled was my hope that girls care about other girls...
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so that was a fucking lie
where are your insides hanging at, Nodoka? fucking liar.
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first day of the first dorm wars. can't remember the specific event, but it's between Otoha and Rin's competition and Makoto and Nodoka's. It's somewhere in chapter 2.
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If I were to guess, Nodoka probably doesn't consider the book and everything around it, as "her" hurting Futaba. Even accidentally. It's more along the lines of Futaba hurting herself.
Nodoka tried to keep the book out of Futaba's hands (and knowledge), but she went and bought it. Then after that, Nodoka advised Futaba to not read it and even burn it:
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Nodoka might even still be waiting for everything to click for Futaba so that she realizes she's overreacting:
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Did you forget that Sensei didn't want to talk to anybody after Maya dissapeared? The only ones you can call currently are the ones you are slowly opening up again to
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It's definitely a stance. One I'd expect from Nodoka, don't get me wrong. But it's one that's self-serving, hypocritical and convenient. You can't just, in good faith, do something that you know is going to hurt your "best friend", and blame it on them for not being "smart" enough to not delve deeper into it, or expect that they are just on a lower level than you and that eventually they'll reach your understanding of the world and conform to yours.
Futaba has read every single thing Nodoka has written, obviously she was going to read something that had her, all her friends, and the first man she loved in it. "Just don't read" is akin to adding insult to injury. And Nodoka has known Futaba for how long? Obviously she could predict at least some level of hurt from reading it.
My point is, it's not a priority for her. Futaba was never really as sacred as she likes to profess, that's a delusion she, for some reason, likes to maintain.
I mean, does anyone really think that Nodoka loses sleep about anyone's feelings, Futaba included? She and Akira are both detached, difference is that Akira admits to himself the stuff he does is fucked up and we get to see his internal dialogue. He has stuff that is actually sacred to him.
Nodoka? I'm not really sure she's even there enough to diagnose that there is a problem. She's just off. It would be wonderful if Futaba really cuts her off from her life, if the class finds out what she did to Yumi and also cut her off, but to be honest I'm not sure if any of that would even make a difference to her.
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With all this Nodoka talk I wanted to point something out and it's that she is going under too many people's radars, she is NOT a normal person, and by normal person, I mean someone like Chika, Sara, Rin, Molly... people that are just people existing in Kumon-mi, and I really have to bring this conversation because you are treating her like one
Nodoka is a Maya-type character like Maya, Ayane, Akira... she KNOWS stuff
It doesn't matter how intelligent you are, one does not simply "know" everything about a person, like their entire personality, their past or even something as crazy predicting completely what someone's about to do.
I understand that you can be a genius and know every single possible piece of media in existance, it takes one in billions of people, a real super genius, and it is not completely far-fetched to have a character like this, but to know everything about people is entirely different.
Nodoka is one of two possible characters;
She is either a Godly being/angel (maybe something different entirely) or..... she is a Selebus self-insert.
Nodoka despite being a Main Cast character, is the only girl in class that Akira has no affection for, this is something Sensei himself tells her. Akira loves EVERY single girl in the game in different quantifiable amounts, one more, another less, but she loves (or at the very least) cares about every single girl in some capacity, but not Nodoka, and it's not something as shallow as "because she is a bad person"
Maya, is a bad person and she's the one Akira supposedly loves the most.
So why does this girl appear out of nowhere, is apparently a genius that knows everything, is a writer, and is for some reason writing a book about everything that happens around AKIRA? sounds similiar to a game called Lessons In Love.
Like Futaba said, it's a "masterpiece" she can't stop reading despite being sick after reading it. (praising his own work and how people view his game)
It's also not a secret Selebus is a fan of Wizards and cute anime girls which is the reason he's doing this game, it's like he is "writing" a universe where he can see one guy fullfilling his desire of corrupting young girls and sleeping with them, but watching is not enough, so he has to put himself in that universe and start corrupting girls together with his own MC (like Haruka and Yumi) because he secretly wishes it was him doing it.
This is why Nodoka has to be a girl, she wishes she could be the one fucking these girls but she doesn't have a penis, so this is the closest he can get to experience this. iT's also ironic how Selebus got fucked by his own creation haha
Either that or it's secretly a divine being using the body of a girl to get Akira to do his bidding, since mental manipulation doesn't seem to work.
Nodoka is a Maya-type character like Maya, Ayane, Akira... she KNOWS stuff
It doesn't matter how intelligent you are, one does not simply "know" everything about a person, like their entire personality, their past or even something as crazy predicting completely what someone's about to do.
I understand that you can be a genius and know every single possible piece of media in existance, it takes one in billions of people, a real super genius, and it is not completely far-fetched to have a character like this, but to know everything about people is entirely different.
Nodoka is one of two possible characters;
She is either a Godly being/angel (maybe something different entirely) or..... she is a Selebus self-insert.
Nodoka despite being a Main Cast character, is the only girl in class that Akira has no affection for, this is something Sensei himself tells her. Akira loves EVERY single girl in the game in different quantifiable amounts, one more, another less, but she loves (or at the very least) cares about every single girl in some capacity, but not Nodoka, and it's not something as shallow as "because she is a bad person"
Maya, is a bad person and she's the one Akira supposedly loves the most.
So why does this girl appear out of nowhere, is apparently a genius that knows everything, is a writer, and is for some reason writing a book about everything that happens around AKIRA? sounds similiar to a game called Lessons In Love.
Like Futaba said, it's a "masterpiece" she can't stop reading despite being sick after reading it. (praising his own work and how people view his game)
It's also not a secret Selebus is a fan of Wizards and cute anime girls which is the reason he's doing this game, it's like he is "writing" a universe where he can see one guy fullfilling his desire of corrupting young girls and sleeping with them, but watching is not enough, so he has to put himself in that universe and start corrupting girls together with his own MC (like Haruka and Yumi) because he secretly wishes it was him doing it.
This is why Nodoka has to be a girl, she wishes she could be the one fucking these girls but she doesn't have a penis, so this is the closest he can get to experience this. iT's also ironic how Selebus got fucked by his own creation haha
Either that or it's secretly a divine being using the body of a girl to get Akira to do his bidding, since mental manipulation doesn't seem to work.
Yeah. And I refuse to believe a character that's "smart" to not see how making the book can jeopardize and hurt Futaba beyond just her "feelings." While it's definitely not Futaba's fault, the idea of "sleeping with her teacher" which apparently is pretty easy surmised from the book, can jeopardize her relationship with her friends, and even her future to some extent. For Nodoka to dismiss that as "not real" and justify to herself that it doesn't count as hurting Futaba is kinda baffling.
"Nodoka doesn't have common sense" Ok, but she should have logic? Like you can be completely detached from the situation and still see how it puts Futaba at risk objectively. Like either she's smart or she's retarded, you can't just conveniently give her 0 IQ when the story needs her to be like that.
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I wonder how many "Huh"s Nodoka will have before they move on from the book stuff?:
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Too sick to be eloquent, so forgive if I jumble this a bit.
Nodoka isn't written like a smart character, she's written like a caricature of one. The callous, detached, possibly even sociopathic behavior, and general smugness that makes you want to punch her. No focus on any area of study so she just knows everything about everything and reads people like books despite her abject lack of social understanding.
She basically comes of as a character written to be how DeGrasse views himself, and the modern views and associations of morals being dumb and nihilism being a sign of intelligence.
If it's not intentional and she's not actually supernatural, she's a poorly written character, and even then she kind of is.
A general rule, a writer can make a character far smarter than themselves, but they can't really make a character wiser than themselves. Not intentionally, anyways.
Sel isn't STUPID, but he certainly isn't a wise man as we've often seen from his childish, egotistical behavior, and while his writing has plenty of smart points to it, the attempts to be mysterious and deep often dip into pure pretention.
Nodoka, when she really gets going on her views and motives, is the pure embodiment of this.
I so second this. Everytime when he tries to be mysterious, my cringe alarm goes of. Especially when he tries so cheap and lazy to shock people with RL pics of gross stuff or spiders. When he does that i cant help but roll my eyes and wonder if he is even trying.
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My usual go-to reason for those "episodes" is that he's just high on something.
Nah, they feel too boring and lazy for that. I think he does genuinely believe he did create something great when he does them.
Definitely unintentional, or just too lazy to fix it. Like regarding Futaba, the conversation is actually about if you should respect your friend's feelings, even if they are unreasonable, which fair enough is an interesting idea. But the premise to even have that conversation is that Futaba's feelings are unreasonable, or in other words that Nodoka's book has 0% chance of impacting Futaba besides just her feelings.
And Sel does such a piss-poor job of arguing that Futaba won't actually get hurt, with Nodoka just saying "yeah, you won't get hurt because... I said so." And no one challenges Nodoka for this, not even Futaba. So it's like what the fuck is the point of 85% of the conversation when you never even justified the very foundation of it? And why does Futaba just let Nodoka get away with saying that?
There's a glaring issue, but the character is too dumb to address it even though it's obvious. Completely ruins my immersion cuz it seems like an asspull to make Nodoka right. You can say that's kinda the point, after all Nodoka's whole spiel during Nodokathon was along the lines of "I'm right until someone proves me wrong" but I guess they live in a world of idiots who can't argue against Nodoka so Nodoka is always right.