Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[moodle]

My attitude towards game obscurity is similar to my attitude towards game difficulty: it's a lot easier for the user to adjust down than up. As such, I support game makers designing stuff that's frustrating (e.g. Soulslikes, bullet hells, whatever the fuck is going on with Cultist Simulator which doesn't explain shit, etc.) and letting the target audience for that sort of thing enjoy it, while other people who don't want the full frustrating experience can just... circumvent the frustration super trivially?

Like, it amazes me when people come in asking for puzzle answers or whatever instead of literally just opening the game files and checking? Selebus doesn't even pack his game in .rpa compression! You can literally just open the files in a text editor and change them to whatever you want! There's a whole-ass wiki that says all the event prerequisites and that is linked to from the game itself. There's a guide mod that helps you through things if even that is too hard. Let Selebus have his weird artist vision if he wants, I disagree with him about makes games compelling but weird artists are like that and he writes great prose (and poetry, for that matter), so if the downsides of him being a weird artist come with the upsides of him being a weird artist, then cool, whatever. I'll just check the files if I get too aggravated with his bullshit, it takes thirty seconds.

 

[Deimoswastaken]

The game is alright, most of the characters are pretty enjoyable, music is solid. A pretty good experience until you eventually just run into the lack of progression as you desperately try to fire off the next event in sequence that has to be done on a specific day in a specific location.

This shit has just become even more obnoxious and it was this that led to me dropping the game a few years back and what led to me dropping it again a bit ago.

Maybe one day this game won't be like pulling teeth and doesn't require you to have a walkthrough out and primed to trigger off events in proper sequence so the game just stops. I just don't have the investment in the game to power through it past a certain point.

So, let me preface this with the statement that I am not asking for any changes to be made, this is just my experience while playing Lessons in Love in 2 different ways.

I've been playing LiL for quite some time now, and have played it both from patch to patch, and letting the patches build up over a longer period of time to "binge" multiple patches of content in one go.

From my personal experience, playing LiL patch to patch significantly decreases the feeling of:

lack of progression as you desperately try to fire off the next event in sequence that has to be done on a specific day in a specific location.

having the ability to actually see what content there is in the patch you are playing and what other girls to try for if you hit a wall makes for a far smoother gaming experience and even story progression.

and that brings me to the moments where I had saved up multiple patches instead, this previous feeling of hitting walls and "aimlessly wandering around" hits me at least a few times every time I let patches build up.
Sure, there are enough guiding hands to help you get along the way, with

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being the major and best source of help. But that also sometimes takes me out of the flow of the game, having to look things up to see who I need to focus on to "end a patch" and get to the next sequential patch slowly working up to being up to date again.


TLDR: In My Honest Opinion LiL is best played patch to patch

 

[alex2011]

So, let me preface this with the statement that I am not asking for any changes to be made, this is just my experience while playing Lessons in Love in 2 different ways.

I've been playing LiL for quite some time now, and have played it both from patch to patch, and letting the patches build up over a longer period of time to "binge" multiple patches of content in one go.

From my personal experience, playing LiL patch to patch significantly decreases the feeling of:

lack of progression as you desperately try to fire off the next event in sequence that has to be done on a specific day in a specific location.

having the ability to actually see what content there is in the patch you are playing and what other girls to try for if you hit a wall makes for a far smoother gaming experience and even story progression.

and that brings me to the moments where I had saved up multiple patches instead, this previous feeling of hitting walls and "aimlessly wandering around" hits me at least a few times every time I let patches build up.
Sure, there are enough guiding hands to help you get along the way, with

You must be registered to see the links

being the major and best source of help. But that also sometimes takes me out of the flow of the game, having to look things up to see who I need to focus on to "end a patch" and get to the next sequential patch slowly working up to being up to date again.


TLDR: In My Honest Opinion LiL is best played patch to patch

As a patch to patch player, at least when my hand isn't forced like it was with 0.16.0 going into 0.17.0 and 0.18.0, that tends to be my experience as well. It also means that any previous version prerequisites for the current build will have already been met going into the current build, so you can't get stuck on those, and you have a much shorter list of events to track.

 

[Omanknight]

I downloaded the android then the sexual content, how do I confirm I extracted it properly and have said sexual content?

 

[alex2011]

I downloaded the android then the sexual content, how do I confirm I extracted it properly and have said sexual content?

If you see sexual content in game, you did it right. There aren't other indicators.

 

[NivealGel]

any hero with a save for 0.23?....grinding for 3h and got tired of it

 

[EllisL4D2]

any hero with a save for 0.23?....grinding for 3h and got tired of it

Come on man, don't take the easy way out. Keep grinding.

 

[Perniciousducks]

Come on man, don't take the easy way out. Keep grinding.

Taking the easy way out is the most Sensei thing he can do. It’s the best way to get in character

 

[akselx]

any hero with a save for 0.23?....grinding for 3h and got tired of it

There were saves posted somewhere in this thread. I won't do it, however, as I feel like this is one game that u either play or don't. Skipping parts of it defeats the whole point of playing it and if u think u can just hit replay and experience events this way, I'm going to disappoint u, as replays have a lot of flags u acquire as u make choices in game disabled, unless u need then to see the scene in the first place. Take this as u will.

 

[aasguard]

6.2gb damn thats a heavy file to download

 

[EllisL4D2]

this is real fact

 

[alex2011]

6.2gb damn thats a heavy file to download

It is a pretty long game and is not even close to the end, a lot of content (not necessarily referring to sex scenes as that is side content in this game at best) means a big file size when dealing with games like this due to the vast amount of images needed for that content.

 

[aasguard]

It is a pretty long game and is not even close to the end, a lot of content (not necessarily referring to sex scenes as that is side content in this game at best) means a big file size when dealing with games like this due to the vast amount of images needed for that content.

last time i downloaded the game it was 4.6 gb i have missed a lot of stuff then

 

[alex2011]

last time i downloaded the game it was 4.6 gb i have missed a lot of stuff then

Not necessarily, Renpy games are usually not big by themselves, it just means there were many images added. The game has added multiple hundreds of images per update, the last change log was 400+ images. Each image is somewhere in the low MB range, but that adds up quickly and it only takes 1,024MB to make 1GB. Let's say each is 6MB large, at exactly 400 images, that is over 2GB of size increase.

What really determines if you missed a lot of content is what version number you last played. If, for example, you played somewhere in the mid teens last, like 0.14.0, then yes, you have a lot of content ahead of you. However, if you last played 0.23.0 part 1 then, while there is a fair amount, I would not call it a lot.

 

[SinArchbishop_Greed]

Hey Alex, just wondering if you're on the LiL Discord.
Since that place is slightly (and by slightly I mean definitely and a lot) more active than this place, including theories and so.
Especially since we just had the Homie Announcements where we got a look into character 34.
This is the part where I'd post a screenshot, but the moderators and Sel didn't really want us leaking pateron only content, so yeah. A verbal description would probably be the best you'll get for now.
(Also we asked Sel a bunch of questions and that was cool.)

 

[Vizer007]

Hey Alex, just wondering if you're on the LiL Discord.
Since that place is slightly (and by slightly I mean definitely and a lot) more active than this place, including theories and so.
Especially since we just had the Homie Announcements where we got a look into character 34.
This is the part where I'd post a screenshot, but the moderators and Sel didn't really want us leaking pateron only content, so yeah. A verbal description would probably be the best you'll get for now.
(Also we asked Sel a bunch of questions and that was cool.)

Dont forget about some brainiacs winning annual passes and shirts too!
I knew only, like, 1 answer, others was just guesses, wrong guesses!

 

[alex2011]

Hey Alex, just wondering if you're on the LiL Discord.
Since that place is slightly (and by slightly I mean definitely and a lot) more active than this place, including theories and so.
Especially since we just had the Homie Announcements where we got a look into character 34.
This is the part where I'd post a screenshot, but the moderators and Sel didn't really want us leaking pateron only content, so yeah. A verbal description would probably be the best you'll get for now.
(Also we asked Sel a bunch of questions and that was cool.)

I am on the Discord, but I typically only use it for my patron perks, occasionally for discussion when I feel I can contribute, and a bit more with just reactions. I did, unfortunately, miss the Homies, overslept.

 

[akselx]

Hey Alex, just wondering if you're on the LiL Discord.
Since that place is slightly (and by slightly I mean definitely and a lot) more active than this place, including theories and so.
Especially since we just had the Homie Announcements where we got a look into character 34.
This is the part where I'd post a screenshot, but the moderators and Sel didn't really want us leaking pateron only content, so yeah. A verbal description would probably be the best you'll get for now.
(Also we asked Sel a bunch of questions and that was cool.)

I was wondering why they did such a weird set up, youtube stream with sound on discord. Apparently it was all just for that one reveal of new character, lol.

 

[AlphaDlaW]

so im lost. I'm at a point where the game says the world is broken and there is literally nothing to do.

 

[crustlord12]

so im lost. I'm at a point where the game says the world is broken and there is literally nothing to do.

that's because it's the end of the update