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DeSkel15

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I am currenty think of three most likely possibilities:

1) Sensei fights gods and fails. 3rd phase is about accepting his fate. Something similar to what you said
2) Sensei fights gods and wins. 3rd phase is about fixing what he done in process.
3) Conflict between goods and Sekai spirals out of control and problem solves itself. 3rd phase is reduced to aftermath

There is always forth possibility as well: Selebus outplays me again and does something even beter. Actualy it is more likely, especialy if he really rewriting plot right now.


The real plot twist of chapter 3 is that Sekai isn't the worst xD
Personally, I think the gods are the least of Sensei's problems. They even seem like puppets at times, just playing their roles.

HOPE and the Angels for example go on loop during the 'How I Feel' happy event, just like the girls do at times.

I wouldn't be all that surprised if Sensei ends up teaming up with the gods before too long. Yasu's recent 'Frankencense & Myrrh' event seems to have implied Sensei is going to work with her god soon. Unfortunately, it seems someone else will suffer for it:
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I'm thinking these two are who Sensei and we should be wary of:
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Or at least whatever is taking their forms.
 
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Personally, I think the gods are the least of Sensei's problems. They even seem like puppets at times, just playing their roles.

HOPE and the Angels for example go on loop during the 'How I Feel' happy event, just like the girls do at times.
May be, but honestly I don't think that what Sensei seeing are real gods. Maybe except Nao.

IIRC, Hope had never directly called himself god and avoided direct questions. We have a bunch of other gods here: Yasu's god, someone who Maya names god, possibly unnamed fourth god from "All For You" (Think back to the holy trinity and question why it was ever deemed a trinity in the first place since the cross has {b}four{/b} points, not three.). It is also a fair assumption that there is a god who can just reset Sensei if he displeases him. Gods seems to be a serious problem and we actualy know almost nothing.

At this point, we know almost nothing about them, but that they are important. For instance, history of callous ball of light and wired god can be interpreted by just Sensei's rationalization of his trauma. Speaking of Hope, we have seen that Sekai is using angels, so either she is already a god or angels not always related to gods.

I honestly don't know is there a real god(s), or just supernatural creatures who pretends to be them. I just don't see any idea underneath current setup but common "fight god" trop. It might be, I admit it, my conclusions are possibilities, not even hypotesis
 

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May be, but honestly I don't think that what Sensei seeing are real gods. Maybe except Nao.

IIRC, Hope had never directly called himself god and avoided direct questions. We have a bunch of other gods here: Yasu's god, someone who Maya names god, possibly unnamed fourth god from "All For You" (Think back to the holy trinity and question why it was ever deemed a trinity in the first place since the cross has {b}four{/b} points, not three.). It is also a fair assumption that there is a god who can just reset Sensei if he displeases him. Gods seems to be a serious problem and we actualy know almost nothing.

At this point, we know almost nothing about them, but that they are important. For instance, history of callous ball of light and wired god can be interpreted by just Sensei's rationalization of his trauma. Speaking of Hope, we have seen that Sekai is using angels, so either she is already a god or angels not always related to gods.

I honestly don't know is there a real god(s), or just supernatural creatures who pretends to be them. I just don't see any idea underneath current setup but common "fight god" trop. It might be, I admit it, my conclusions are possibilities, not even hypotesis
I mean, not to be crude, but gods are supernatural creatures. I do agree that these numbered gods are likely just creatures that are called such things though.

Also seeing as how Long Maya could send Sensei back in time if he answers a question wrong, and implied she could send him back to the beginning, I don't think you even need to be considered a god to reset Sensei.

I do think it's the god of wires/the second god/User 2 that's behind the resetting and affection process stuff, but fortunately they seem to:
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want to protect Sensei. Whether that's actually good or true, I'm not sure. It also seems to require permission to do things, and seems to be the god that Maya prays to.

As for the other gods, the way I see them is:

The first god is User 1/Nozomu/HOPE/Yasu's god, etc, and it seems to want to use Sensei for it's own means which don't seem good:
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Nozomu itself translates to Hope, and Yasu's god seems to share traits with this god. Many eyes, dead but not dead, callousness, the light, etc.

Then there's the third god who is User 3/Pareidolia and seems to claim to not be on Sensei's side, but plans on using him for good:
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and is the only one who knows how to use him, or so it says.

Then there's the apparently 4th god, User 4, etc. The one who might need to be everything:
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and it might be what Pareidolia has seemingly warned us about:
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Overall: the gods seem to be derived from Sensei. Wanting to use, protect, or be something to him.

Btw, Sekai and HOPE seem to be related due to Nozomu/Hope being her husband. Same with Ami, and Mangled Ami, etc, being their daughter, hence the callous god stuff. They all seem connected. That could be why Sekai has seemed to alter the Angels after the beach, since they serve her as well. Of course, she may have just usurped HOPE. We haven't really seen it since if I recall, and Yasu could just be being deceived at this moment.

Of course, there's also "the world" which might be another name for Sekai, but at this point "the world", Sekai, Nao, and User 4 are all enigmas. Then there's this "the old one" that's around now, and Nao-chan. So, yeah, not entirely sure what's going on at the moment.

I don't think "killing god" is really what the game's going for though. Even if an Unnamed Baby claims otherwise:
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Of course, I could be wrong, and if so, I apologize Unnamed Baby for not trusting you.
 

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Nao spoiled the ending:
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Considering the fact that nothing changed until the player got there, I think there's definitely a shot at some options having some amount impact.
Before we get on terminal 23 it was basically a repeat of Sensei being reset after one cycle and sometimes making it midway into a second one to be reset anyway. Now he's getting his memories back, people that don't show up are showing up and weird things happen that didn't happen before.
I know Selebus loves to do the players with "muh you don't have a choice" often but our actions can have consequences.
 

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You're definitely more optimistic than I am. I don't think anyone is getting an actual happy ending, besides maybe Nao (not Nao-chan) and those above it. I don't think the cycle will be broken. Sensei will get "close" then he'll be bluntly reminded that he's only playing the part that he was scripted to play, before being reset so that he can eternally struggle in vain. All while Nao watches, entertained, as the ants go around in circles. Any happy endings merely being "what ifs" meant to spice things up before being reset again.
Totally agree. Your ending predictions seem solid to me.

A while ago I made a tongue in cheek post to bait Dev on his subscibestar and it got response I expected. Which was funny.
It confirmed for me that not only he's not one to change direction of game or his vision, but also he feels strongly about it. Which I don't mind at all, since I like 90% of the stuff he does anyway. I would think less of him if he listened to the $5 plebs like me & the free players anyway.

Combine this with everything we've witnessed so far in game story and it's pretty self evident how the game will go. Not saying I can predict it fully.. but in a general sense the ending chapters are going to playout similar to the first 3 chapters. This doesn't seem like a dev that would do a 180 and change styles and the way the story is going abruptly.

I mean anything's possible, there could be a happy ending. But I would bet against it. Happy endings are overated anyway.. when I see them in horror movies it makes me wanna barf.
 
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barglenarglezous

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I mean anything's possible, there could be a happy ending. But I would bet against it. Happy endings are overated anyway.. when I see them in horror movies it makes me wanna barf.
The most we're gonna get is bittersweet.

A core concept of the game is finding beauty in suffering. There ain't gonna be no sunshine and rainbows.
 
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barglenarglezous

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Got a gut feeling that Norkio's gonna get another clost cucking in this update. I just feel it in my bones.

She's gonna hide in the closet to try and ambush-hug Akira, only to wind up watching him with another one of the girls.

This is gonna be a running joke until she gets to boldly go where all 19 of her classmates had already gone before.
 

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Big request here
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Honestly it's just impossible to tell most of the time and even one piece of info can easily change who you think did what to who, I bet other players could bring up one scene that makes me have to immediately change what I think are correct connections because a lot of the things the gods do overlap (like User2 and User3 talking with ////////// before text, User2 and User3 both being "nice" to Sensei, Hexadecimal talk being the signature of one of the three main guys only for another to start using it)
 
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DeSkel15

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Considering the fact that nothing changed until the player got there, I think there's definitely a shot at some options having some amount impact.
Before we get on terminal 23 it was basically a repeat of Sensei being reset after one cycle and sometimes making it midway into a second one to be reset anyway. Now he's getting his memories back, people that don't show up are showing up and weird things happen that didn't happen before.
I know Selebus loves to do the players with "muh you don't have a choice" often but our actions can have consequences.
I definitely could see that "we" are what's going to be able to change things, and Sensei simply would be unable to without us.

The only problem I see, is that Nao seems to be the one deciding how what we choose will affect things:
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There's also how she implies that there's no such thing as free will:
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implying that the choices we are given are not really choices to begin with. We are scripted to choose what we choose as those choices are a part of the script.

In other words: We might only be thinking that things are different. In actuality, we might have helped Sensei regain his memory and had Maya face "new" things countless times before. Everything that's happening could have already happened before, and we're just not aware of it. All of our actions and choices and their consequences are just a part of the story.

Nevertheless, if there is a loophole, I do think it's "us".
 
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barglenarglezous

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Honestly it's just impossible to tell most of the time and even one piece of info can easily change who you think did what to who, I bet other players could bring up one scene that makes me have to immediately change what I think are correct connections because a lot of the things the gods do overlap (like User2 and User3 talking with ////////// before text, User2 and User3 both being "nice" to Sensei, Hexadecimal talk being the signature of one of the three main guys only for another to start using it)
There are some pretty big challenges to trying to align each girl with a god.

1) Is the god's presence in a given scene with that girl because of her, or because of Akira?
2) Was that actually the girl, or was that the shapeshifter?
3) Are Bound Cyclops Ami, Broken Scribble Ami, Amy, and Ami all aligned to the same god? (Maya has the same issue)
4) What do we do when multiple gods appear to be involved in a scene?
 

DeSkel15

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Big request here
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How I see things, when it comes to what's connected to what:
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Could, of course, be wrong. This game is huge and loves to fuck with the players expectations.
 

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Who is the secret maid? Was this something Sel came up with but forgot? I don't think Maya can make Ami lose her job.
Edit: My current guess is this was supposed to be a hint towards Niki's introduction, but Sel had other plans for her and didn't go back to fix this event.
The secret maid was not mentioned in other events unlike most of the mysteries in this game so I'm willing to bet this is more of a mistake rather than intended.
 
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Angiboat

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Who is the secret maid?
The secret maid was not mentioned in other events unlike most of the mysteries in this game so I'm willing to bet this is more of a mistake rather than intended.
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It's not like it's the first throwaway plot point we get and forget immediately like that 5th floor ghost, kek.
 
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butterfly boy

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"I don't know if she's ever coming back anyway" would indicate it's someone who's moved on to bigger things.

Like becoming an Idol.
There's a few problems if she's current Niki though.
- Why would they tell the new employee to not reveal Niki's information when they could just not reveal that information to the new employee in the first place?
- If the new employee thinks Niki used to work here they could also just deny that.
- If Niki needs to hide her past then Ami doesn't have a lot of reasons to reveal that information with Sensei. She's her queen after all.
 
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