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Imo it is definitely better than coffee facts or weird metaphors with disturbing imagery of which I can comprehend nothing and even master level lore theorists here are hardly getting something from.
- Sep 5, 2021
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Please tell me how you missed this. I pestered the mods to put something IN the spoiler about the DRM specifically to prevent YOU and yet even that doesn't seem to be enough so please, explain how you missed it so i can construct a more effective warning.
- Oct 15, 2019
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Same, if scene have close to zero lore info and consists only of "ahh, yes, coming" kind of stuff then it's a skip material.
On the bright side - we have all the character cards now, if anyone wants a sex scene - just make it yourself.
- Jun 6, 2023
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Sel hasn't been able to write as many events per update for a bit now and I imagine cutting down on the lust events was a way of still releasing almost as much important content as he used to.
- Mar 15, 2023
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For unknown reason I started to actualy read Yasu's monologues.
So why don't we discuss our unholy trinity once more?
We either still in "Not enough reliable information" phase or there is something interesting here. Trichotomy Callous/Calm/Concerned does not match Everything/Nothing/Rope well, but let Everything/Nothing be on Yasu's perception for now. The point here is that two gods are at war and third is keeping neutralty (common trope, isn't it?)
1) It is interesting because we haven't been given reliable discriminator for who fights for whom yet. Anyway, there is some ideato rely on angels/rabbits color, because why not. With that assumtion, sides of war can be represented by Sekai and Hope.
Yasu god sounds more Sekaish than Hopeish (if we think about them as about different gods, obviously). It also explains rabbits and angels colors mismatch, which is a problem of "default" theory: there is no mismatch, both of them are on "Dark side". I do not like this conclusion, it contradicts the idea that linkage between Hope and Sensei is the reason Yasu calls him her god's favorite.
As an alternative, Sekai can be in opposition to Yasu's god. It does not sounds very natural, but a) we know almost nothing about Sekai's backstory b) from last events, Sekai might be "not callous" more than "Lust Eater".
2) "Default" Unholy Trinity theory seems a bit broken. Especialy in the part when order is important.
We have Callous/Calm/Concerned. We also know it is same trichotomy as "The Lust Eater" / "The Wire God" / "The Dark".
Next, the important part, we assume they are Hope (Nozomu)/Wire god/Pareidolia.
DeSkel mentioned (AFAIR) recently, that "The Dark" does not fit Pareidolia well. The more i think about it, the more I question miself "how do we know that pareidolia is Concerned god"? For all I know, he might be Callous god as well.
Now we also have Everything/Nothing/Rope trichotomy. War between Callous and Calm is strange, and how Callous could be everything? With (1) it sounds more like not understanding what is goind on, than some misinterpritations
Sidenote: If Callous/Calm/Concerned in that order survives, we might suprisingly find that Ami is callous, Maya is calm and Ayane is concerned. It sounds less insane after "Flowerchild"
3) This is not about "default" theories and more about my own thoughts. Initialy i linked existance of Kumon-me to agony of dying god, but now that god is not just dying, but also fights in the war. That not sounds like an agony. If there is a war, it opens some room for Sensei as Faust, who obliged to choose a god to help him win a bet or smth like that. Simple and explains amount of divine interventions in his live
PS by "default" i name theories that I think are common within community. If they aren't, they aren't
PPS Yasu alsmost identified her god with rope in that event. And Sekai with her god. Interesting, isn't it?
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So why don't we discuss our unholy trinity once more?
We either still in "Not enough reliable information" phase or there is something interesting here. Trichotomy Callous/Calm/Concerned does not match Everything/Nothing/Rope well, but let Everything/Nothing be on Yasu's perception for now. The point here is that two gods are at war and third is keeping neutralty (common trope, isn't it?)
1) It is interesting because we haven't been given reliable discriminator for who fights for whom yet. Anyway, there is some ideato rely on angels/rabbits color, because why not. With that assumtion, sides of war can be represented by Sekai and Hope.
Yasu god sounds more Sekaish than Hopeish (if we think about them as about different gods, obviously). It also explains rabbits and angels colors mismatch, which is a problem of "default" theory: there is no mismatch, both of them are on "Dark side". I do not like this conclusion, it contradicts the idea that linkage between Hope and Sensei is the reason Yasu calls him her god's favorite.
As an alternative, Sekai can be in opposition to Yasu's god. It does not sounds very natural, but a) we know almost nothing about Sekai's backstory b) from last events, Sekai might be "not callous" more than "Lust Eater".
2) "Default" Unholy Trinity theory seems a bit broken. Especialy in the part when order is important.
We have Callous/Calm/Concerned. We also know it is same trichotomy as "The Lust Eater" / "The Wire God" / "The Dark".
Next, the important part, we assume they are Hope (Nozomu)/Wire god/Pareidolia.
DeSkel mentioned (AFAIR) recently, that "The Dark" does not fit Pareidolia well. The more i think about it, the more I question miself "how do we know that pareidolia is Concerned god"? For all I know, he might be Callous god as well.
Now we also have Everything/Nothing/Rope trichotomy. War between Callous and Calm is strange, and how Callous could be everything? With (1) it sounds more like not understanding what is goind on, than some misinterpritations
Sidenote: If Callous/Calm/Concerned in that order survives, we might suprisingly find that Ami is callous, Maya is calm and Ayane is concerned. It sounds less insane after "Flowerchild"
3) This is not about "default" theories and more about my own thoughts. Initialy i linked existance of Kumon-me to agony of dying god, but now that god is not just dying, but also fights in the war. That not sounds like an agony. If there is a war, it opens some room for Sensei as Faust, who obliged to choose a god to help him win a bet or smth like that. Simple and explains amount of divine interventions in his live
PS by "default" i name theories that I think are common within community. If they aren't, they aren't
PPS Yasu alsmost identified her god with rope in that event. And Sekai with her god. Interesting, isn't it?
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Absolutely agree
I think under this context the rope is highly likely to be Sensei, not just because the first two gods seemingly have the most influences on his actions and how Kumon-mi runs itself, but also in the same scene and in the later development:
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Putting who are the first two gods and what belongs to them aside, I believe trying to learn more about the third god/Concerned/(temp)Pareidolia via Yasu's dialogue will likely be futile because there is a chance that she was only told by her god that there are three gods, but nothing more about the third one on the specifics.
(and I guess there wasn't a need since no Sensei has made it this far)
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Finally an unrelated thought about this event is that Yasu was hilariously annoyed/frustrated this time when conversing with Sensei here, it's like "haven't you been listening, you unruly child!"
- Mar 15, 2023
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I'd rather disagree
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Also, based on that I think Yasu is hiding something. She obviously has her diagnosis, but her speech is less consistent than expected from "Vessel of god"
Well, my point is that term "the third god" is unncecessary concept which leads us to paradox sooner or later. It is just misleading (or at least might be). I'm going to review all related events soon (including Miku's "One. Two. Three.", lol) to be sure
PS cannot find were exactly you referenced that yasu has only seen two moons, but for me it sounds more natural to be unable to see "Nothing". And, within this concept, nothing can be Pareidolia anyways
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- Apr 24, 2021
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Interesting take...I assume Nothing as the second god also because the event There is Nothing is its first intro, but this is very much me randomly pointing at shadows thinking there were connections everywhere
, as baseless as ever.btw the two moon things I mentioned is Yasu's comment on Nodoka's
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Wow, nice catch. Even if it is overthinking
Yep, I remember that, just lost place when you mentioned it
. So nevermind
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Well on the same Frankincense & Myrrh event, when Akira decides to stay and listen she says:
But at the same time she can't really see the actions of the third god, and Pareidolia is trying to assume control of Akira's actions, as in the Nodoka and Haruka scene where if you don't give it control it quits the game.
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Another insight
Whom does narrator adress as "you" from the begining of game? It is just a feeling, but isn't he talking to Sekai right now? It is not obliged to be breaking of fourth wall, it could be inner monologue all the way long
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Whom does narrator adress as "you" from the begining of game? It is just a feeling, but isn't he talking to Sekai right now? It is not obliged to be breaking of fourth wall, it could be inner monologue all the way long
- Jun 22, 2020
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It's never consistent.
Sometimes he's talking to Sensei, sometimes he's monologuing, other times he's talking to the player. It depends on who the narrator at the time is as well.
For Pareidolia for example, I think it could be either Sensei or the player, Selebus narrator is usually to the player, Wire God is usually to Sensei, etc.
- Jan 30, 2021
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Some thoughts about Futaba's horror story.
It's about a girl who got lost in a town where no one speaks and travels up an apartment building up to floor 64(?) (the famous attic?) to find her own corpse and gets killed (pushed down stairs) by a cat.
There are two major times where cats seem to be important as far as i remember.
Baby Finches, where Maya says she killed cats on her way to school (always thought that this was outstandingly weird)
and
The Stray Cat, which seems to refer to Maya.
I wonder if Futaba made that story up by intuition and it's related to weak memory of the past, or what's above Kumon'mi and or the Upside Down House.
Like she faintly remembers that Maya killed people to keep things under control and this is part of a repeating cycle.
Could also be the reason why Nodoka gave up on the horror story and shifted things away from it with her "Love Story".
It's about a girl who got lost in a town where no one speaks and travels up an apartment building up to floor 64(?) (the famous attic?) to find her own corpse and gets killed (pushed down stairs) by a cat.
There are two major times where cats seem to be important as far as i remember.
Baby Finches, where Maya says she killed cats on her way to school (always thought that this was outstandingly weird)
and
The Stray Cat, which seems to refer to Maya.
I wonder if Futaba made that story up by intuition and it's related to weak memory of the past, or what's above Kumon'mi and or the Upside Down House.
Like she faintly remembers that Maya killed people to keep things under control and this is part of a repeating cycle.
Could also be the reason why Nodoka gave up on the horror story and shifted things away from it with her "Love Story".
- Sep 29, 2019
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Kind of long response revolving around Yasu's 'Frankincense & Myrrh':
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As for my Pareidolia misinterpretation:
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I could probably talk about this shit for days, but to be honest, everything could change with a single update, just by something new being revealed or something old being revealed to be a lie or false truth. Unfortunately, it's been implied that something has been purposely misleading the player/theorists:
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- Sep 5, 2021
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I am far too stupid to follow this most recent train of conversation. Like, i can't even offer any reactions in honesty cause i can't even keep up or make sense of shit. Really feeling my ass groove in the dunce throne today.
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- Apr 24, 2021
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No Imani, it's because you will sign the proper form and will still chicken out when the opportunity presents itself
(GOD I can't wait for her future events!)
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Much as I enjoy hypothesizing, I don't partake for the reason DeSkel just mentioned: We lack concrete information. It seems generally accepted that the god-trinity of Callous/Calm/Concerned are the same beings as Hope/Wires/Pareidolia because it survives Occam's Razor, but honestly we don't even know THAT for certain.
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My theory on Yasu is that she's basically being used and manipulated by her god and this will break her pretty badly if/when she finds out. It's one thing to learn your god isn't real, it would be quite another to learn they are real but have been lying to you the whole time. Poor girl thinks she is an angel in training when she is actually just a pawn.