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I still believe Touka is the real shotacon and not Otoha. So I don't think the dorm wars thing was that out of character.
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Make your case. Everyone knows i'm in camp Otoha but i'd like to hear you out, see why you think what you think.
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I never really thought to keep track of why. So I doubt id be able to find scenes that support it now, besides the obvious Aim dorm war contest. Mostly it was just a feeling that I got. And in a meta way it would be kind of fitting that the next person Akira decided to latch onto as a motherly figure is also a shotacon.
Although I don't particularly care either way if I'm wrong. The Otoha little brother stuff is probably stronger evidence than anything else I could find. Unless I was to be overly pedantic and try to separate little brother brocon and shotacon in some way.
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Otoha is the Shotacon, and the biggest proof/indication has been given by Nodoka a couple of months ago at the Actual Jesus Quotes event, and nothing else can come close, the latest otoha events only reinforce that path.
and if we count small quibbles from cap2 the introduction of new characters like this, was always there.
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and if we count small quibbles from cap2 the introduction of new characters like this, was always there.
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The "I know you, so I know you know." line is quite convincing. Almost enough for me to abandon Tonami and relinquish the Real Shotacon Crown to Otoha. But I will wait for further developments. Unless you have a few more smoking guns. Preferably proverbial, so not the ones Ayane used to kill all the janitors... or the one from paper city.
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There are also a few "subtle" hints of Otoha liking being around kids:
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Sensei even made a joke about her letting him fuck her if he was 11:
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Overall: The game definitely wants us to at least think Otoha is the shotacon, and a brocon.
Interestingly, according to Nodoka, Otoha is becoming even more depraved:
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Touka is just another casualty of what I would say is my primary criticism of the game, which is there are WAY too many characters. I mean in the "main cast" we have 15 girls. Of those fifteen I would say maybe three or four have enough story relevance to be considered "main" That's not even getting into the side girls who have more presence and relevance than even some of the main girls. It would be hard for anyone to figure out what to do with all these characters. I don't really envy Sel's position but the damage is done so now all he can really do is figure out ways to get everyone involved with not only the main character, but each other. I think Touka going mommy mode is just something he landed on to give her some kind of presence with all that's happening right now.
I hate myself for it, but I'm going to be that guy. Ahem... there are actually 20 girls in the 'main cast' with 15 'side characters', going solely by how they are classified within the game. Right, if anyone wants me I'll be under the rock marked as 'pedant'.
My mistake, but I will use this as an opportunity to reinforce my point. Dumbasses like me can't even keep track of all these girls.
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Doesn't Touka's appearance also have to do with her fitting the motherly bill for Sensei? She looks pretty similar to to Saki(long black hair, giant chest, etc.) and we know she didn't like him (Saki) very much according to Yasu. Touka's wholesome nature along with her appearance is what probably makes Sensei see her as a maternal figure even though every important female figure in his life has/ or wants to fuck him. And I think Yumi may have fit that bill also if she didn't call him "douche monkey" and whatever creative nicknames she came up with for him that I can't think of right now all the time.
Tangent: Has there been a clues given as to what the other name Parold E. Dolia(correct me if that's not the right god) knows Yumi as? Since its been revealed in Chapter 1(I think) there really hasn't been any clues or hints given as to what the name is.
The problem with touka is that she basically already had her character arc and she did finish it. The arc started when she was put with yasu in the same dorm room and it ended when she was able to overcome her fear and did acclimatize to her new environment. And that motherly? Well, just look how much she has to take care of yasu. I dont even understand how that can be any mystery to people. Sel basically just did transplant that onto akira, because that is one of those things he didnt had filled out by that point.
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The "main cast" of the game are just students in Sensei's class. Their plot relevance doesn't have to do with whether or not they're are considered to be in the main cast or not. It's more of a identification thing. I.E Kirin being upgraded to the main cast after being placed into Sensei's class in Chapter 2.
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They never called her motherly until around that time, but there were some parts that felt pretty close to it, like her brushing Yasu's hair and always treating her like a kid, and the way she talked to her from the moment they started to become actual friends or that beach event where she gifts you the flat though less present there.
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Caught up with the game having not played it for like half a year. Knew that Maya was going to eventually be reset but it still made me sad. Interesting to see that her demeanor is pretty similar, obviously way bolder but we were already seeing that side of her by the end of her cicle.
Now focusing on the resets and all that, I've got a question. Do somebody has a theory of when/why they started? an if Maya knew what happened in that original school year before getting reset. I'm going with the assumption that the events during the original school year eventually lead to this cicle of the world reseting and all that. I definitely remeber most agreeing that what started all this was sensei killing himself, but what were the reasons the make him do it? would like to hear what some of have piece together
My theory is that we have already seen some of the original events that happened during that year, not necessarily in order, like Ayane getting pregnant and losing the child (wich is why we see Himawari in some early events), Makoto's dad dying (tho, I'm still nor sure if that war is real or just a covenient plot device). And my theory is that when the girls lived through those events they became aware of the loops. I also believed the school collapsing and the second floor girls getting transferred in was a way for the world to force those girl into the classroom because they originaly were part of it.
Think that's effectively the only real mystery left, most of the past has been pieced together, save for some of the background of the girls.
Now focusing on the resets and all that, I've got a question. Do somebody has a theory of when/why they started? an if Maya knew what happened in that original school year before getting reset. I'm going with the assumption that the events during the original school year eventually lead to this cicle of the world reseting and all that. I definitely remeber most agreeing that what started all this was sensei killing himself, but what were the reasons the make him do it? would like to hear what some of have piece together
My theory is that we have already seen some of the original events that happened during that year, not necessarily in order, like Ayane getting pregnant and losing the child (wich is why we see Himawari in some early events), Makoto's dad dying (tho, I'm still nor sure if that war is real or just a covenient plot device). And my theory is that when the girls lived through those events they became aware of the loops. I also believed the school collapsing and the second floor girls getting transferred in was a way for the world to force those girl into the classroom because they originaly were part of it.
Think that's effectively the only real mystery left, most of the past has been pieced together, save for some of the background of the girls.
It is a test. At least for akira. Now i wonder if we will ever see what the go have to go trough.
Just why cant the masses not come up with endings/explanations that are not a variant of "it was all just a dream? And i highly doubt Sel will go for such a beginner trope.
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Err... that's not the basis of the theory, the idea was Akira committing suicide got the gods involved, possibly as a wish from Maya and the time loop was set up with Akira getting reset like Makoto did in Blue Jay, and now they're in a very real if surreal purgatory. None of it is a dream and if it feels like a cop-out to you then i gotta wonder why when all this has to have been started for some reason, the entities didn't just a rock up one day and decide this specific dude was worth toying with.
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Well that's enough convincing for me. I'm not sure how I managed to ignore the connection with a lot of this. It seems very obvious when contextualised.
Now I'm quite interested in how her knowing Sekai's poetry in the context of her being a shotacon is going to be used between her and Akira in the future.
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Okay, that sounds a bit more reasonable, but i still doubt it. Why? Because of sekai and because of a statement i think from i dont remember who it was, that he has his blackouts already for a long time. And a long time can only mean before the loops started. So the involved of those supernatural weirdos must have happen already before the loops.
And i am not sure that they cared about Makoto herself, but more that she was needed for their little game. Oh, now that i think about it, maybe her dad was "killed off" as punishment, to force them to interven.