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fasoaga

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In 0.42 Nodoka said blackout akira is not controlled by insticts, he is controlled by "memory". But whose memories controls the Akira?

First i thought it was kind of the game "spec ops the line"
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but we know akira had three relationships: Sekai, Niki,Maya
So it can't be his memories or not completely his.

In "this town has two halves" akira blacks out and kisses Yumi against her will, in another event when we see some flashbacks about akira's past it's the exact same way Sekai kisses young akira agains his will. (i can't share Screen shots because im on the phone)

And the rapey detentions, it is probably how sekai groomed akira in the past.
And one of the events am i okay refers to us as Sekai.
When Akira remembers the past, young akira saw the older akira, but there was shadow of sekai on the wall where it should have been shadow of older akira.

I have no idea where to go from here, Nodoka saying black outs having a script that akira follows makes sense because of the previous events support that, but why these scripts are memories of sekai i don't know.

(And how the hell nodoka hides a letter where gods can not find)

Can lore gods make sense of this, because i definitely can't.
 

Bingoogus

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I have no idea where to go from here, Nodoka saying black outs having a script that akira follows makes sense because of the previous events support that, but why these scripts are memories of sekai i don't know.
That part i've always taken to be the 'prey becomes the predator' coping strategy Akira went with as a result of his CSA trauma, he's copying the model of Sekai as he remembers her but with him in her place.
 

fasoaga

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I just realised i missed a chinami event. How bad was it? And did i missed the event because a decision i made a year ago?
 

k1n5l4y3r

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I just realised i missed a chinami event. How bad was it? And did i missed the event because a decision i made a year ago?
It's tied to a few variables, you have to have seen Chinami bath scene with Chika, and choosen Tsukasa on the tutoring scene.
 
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DeSkel15

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Tsubasa seemingly expresses genuine confusion as to why she's allowing Akira to have Tsukasa's phone number.
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I think it's more likely that either she's influenced by the xoanon/the tree, or she has fragments of deeper knowledge that pop up at random times (much like Kaori in Wither) that make her trust her "instincts".
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Furthermore, at this point in time, we only know of one shapeshifter, who, by her own admission, was never a shapeshifter to begin with. Himawari states that it is Akira that chooses to perceive her as if she was another person, she's always Himawari.
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So what happens to Himawari is the same that happens to Maya appearing as Sana, or Ami appearing as Maya - it's Akira's brain shapeshifting them.
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A point of note is that Yasu also does that, albeit in a slightly different manner, instead "transporting" (presumably not slipping though) Akira places:
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Regardless, at this moment in time, the ability to slip into someone's body has only been done by Sekaori, and that's not exactly slipping either since there's a good possibility she's part of that body by implants.
Just felt compelled to note that when it comes to Himawari, it's a little more than just looking like others:
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Here's some rambling ideas about Makoto's "T Is For Time". I don't have a complete theory so I basically just started pointing out every connection that might be relevant, hopefully this can spark a discussion.
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Axismundi

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I just realised i missed a chinami event. How bad was it? And did i missed the event because a decision i made a year ago?
It's actually not bad at all, surprisingly. It actually plays out like an amateur intervention, with Chinami annoying the answers out of him. Chinami does piece together that Akira is a lolicon (that's good), but doesn't seem to care (that's bad). What's more interesting about the wizard event chain is the fact that Akira is actively having to face the worst parts of himself. Whether he actually grows past it or caves to it is definitely Suspenseful.
 

xTyurru

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The DLC for this game (ones you see on the main menu) are they already available in this current build in OP?
 

Muk_king

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For me, Friedrich Nietzsche Makoto's arguments come across as dangerously persuasive but ultimately bullshit, and I hope that's what Selebus is intending. You can probably apply the mental maturity argument to Maya Prime, though there are still caveats with how underdeveloped teenage brains are, but every one of Sensei's sexual relationships started within months of the girl being reset and at most within a few years of them being factory reset, so I don't know how they can be said to have matured (and they don't act like it
This is interesting to think on. Also, it seems to me that we tend to ignore that Akira might have an adult body but that he is operating at an emotional and experiential level even less developed than his students. When he resets it does far more than when the others are reset.
 
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Bingoogus

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Here's some rambling ideas about Makoto's "T Is For Time". I don't have a complete theory so I basically just started pointing out every connection that might be relevant, hopefully this can spark a discussion.
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That's a lot of big thinks my dude... leaves a lot for me to ponder, but one thing that pretty quickly jumped out to me when you mentioned a future Kaori and then lead into a future Ami... if that sorta thing does occur then that might probably be part of the end game for the story, seeing the purified girls being sent by Ascended-Akira to specific points in the past to ensure the future outcome as the simulation or whatever begins to crumble... or maybe i've just watched too much scifi.
 

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How would purity routes work? Would we need to start over?
Unclear, but no need to restart no (as green path is supposed to unlock everything in one go). It's harem chapters -> dark chapter -> purity chapters -> true ending.

My take is that purity chapters are probably a cycle suited to each of the girls, with maybe Akira taking control over the simulation and doing them in sequence to give each of them their perfect life before going through with the true ending (him saying that some of the purity routes will re-use footage from the harem chapters supports this theory, as the cycle would begin again from where it usually started).

Edit: Thinking about it, it might be that at the end of each purity route that one girl will be "completed" = ascend, and maybe at the true end we'll be able to see everyone again because the simulation will have truly been finished.
 
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Breadtaker

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I generally agree with your take, except that I would still implore that we don't have any confirmation as to whether he was really uninterested in all of those things or if his previous self simply had enough mental strength and discipline (or fear/cowardice?) to not act out on those desires. Ultimately we don't know enough about the original Akira.
I think we do have confirmation
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Maya roleplayed other people and Ayane was a common subject.


Here's my current read on what pre-loop Akira was like. I'm filling in gaps so lot of this is speculation and it's a kinda rambly wall of text so feel free to ignore.
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Here's my current read on what pre-loop Akira was like. I'm filling in gaps so lot of this is speculation and it's a kinda rambly wall of text so feel free to ignore.
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Overall it makes sense, and although the blackout being Maya's first time is a thing that could have happened, it doesn't fit really well with what we know about it:
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This seems to suggest that Akira was awake when she told it to him the first time, and although not stated, this seems to have been the first time he did anything sexual to Maya, given her reaction to it.
 

Antosha

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0.43 event triggers:

01 - Yumi 1 (Saturday automatic) [variation if Yumi threesome true].
02 - Chika 1 (Linked to Yumi 1) [variation if Yumi threesome true].
03 - Chinami 1 (Linked to Chika 1) [variation if Tsukasa true and Chinami seen bath true].
04 - Chinami 2 (Linked to Chinami 1).
05 - Touka 1 (Wednesday automatic).
06 - Sara 1 (Weekday bar) [variation if Sarasex true].
07 - Yuki 1 (Linked to Sara 1).
08 - Yuki 2 (Linked to Yuki 1).
09 - Sana 1 (Friday automatic).
10 - Karin 1 (Dojo) [variation if Karin lied false].
11 - Osako 1 (Linked to Karin 1) [variation if Makisex true].
12 - Wakana 1 (Saturday automatic).
13 - Wakana 2 (Linked to Wakana 1).
14 - Makoto 1 (Call afternoon).
15 - Miku 1 (Sunday call morning).
16 - Miku 2 (Linked to Miku 1).
17 - Makoto 2 (Linked to Miku 2).
18 - Sara 2 (Bar).
19 - Tsubasa 1 (Linked to Sara 2) [variation if Harukasex true].
20 - Tsubasa 2 (Linked to Tsubasa 1).

Bonus Animation: Touka x Yasu (check the computer).

*This is the order I unlocked the events, other variations may work. This is playing green path and choosing to do all I can. Also tried to include some of the script calls for variations, but might have missed a few.
**Hexadecimal translation for the Sana Event is: "this is not her".
FYI, the Makoto event requires that you've gone through the Touka sequence first. ETA: And the Touka event requires that you've played the Chinami events. FYI.
 
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