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Bingoogus the voice of reason as always.
Praise be.
Praise be.
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Just to also give my two cents to the Otoha discussion (not that anyone asked):
I think it's a culmination of all the arguments brought forth so far.
Otoha is neither a psychopath, nor an angel. She isn't fully bad, but she certainly isn't good either, neither dark nor light. Which ultimately lands her pretty much in the middle at grey. Which is probably the blandest color there is.
There is a lot of arguments for hating Otoha, she did a lot of shady and unnecessarily selfish stuff - definitely. I will respect anyone's opinion for disliking her solely based on her past actions.
However, I also support the argument that her misdemeanors at least also gave her somewhat of a character. After all, she is actually the most realistic teenager out of all the girls so far.
Think about it, we have girls that (think they) talk to gods, we have heiresses of multibillion companies, we have severely abused and traumatized girls, girls that have severe depression or extreme issues with self confidence, girls that have lived millions of years and a girl that wants to be violently fucked ber her uncle who actually is her Dad.
Out of all of these individuals, I personally think, Otoha is the most "normal" one, as in, she acts the most like someone you and me would probably know in real life, at least from back in high school times.
That can of course be interpreted as being very forgettable and boring, but I see it as being a nice representation of normalcy, of an average girl, doing things that average girls do.
She is relatively calm and collected compared to most girls, she has typical hobbies that fit her age, she is facing issues that are common in her stage in life and she has flaws. Yes, she is lying, she has been manipulative, she has done selfish things and she seems constantly indecisive and unsure what to do. But almost all teenagers do exactly that.
But she did none of those things to a comically evil level, unlike someone like Nodoka or Ami. Some people even brought up that other characters did similarly heinous deeds, yet are not treated as harshly as Otoha is.
And I think it comes down to her being "too normal" to cover for her shortcomings, as she rarely does anything noteworthy enough to distract from those actions. She ultimately just wants to be left alone and do her thing.
At the end of the day, I am convinced that most of us here, if thrown into the universe of LiL, would turn out to be an 'Otoha'. Meaning, we would most likely not have any extremely outer-worldly or traumatic backstory, no crazily unusual character traits, just a pretty average person with maybe a bit of perverted tendencies here and there, but nothing too dramatic.
Thinking of it that way, I feel like I can relate to Otoha probably the most out of all the girls in this game. So what if you are relatively boring in comparison? It does not make you a bad person or unworthy of attention.
Also her butt is nice.
I think it's a culmination of all the arguments brought forth so far.
Otoha is neither a psychopath, nor an angel. She isn't fully bad, but she certainly isn't good either, neither dark nor light. Which ultimately lands her pretty much in the middle at grey. Which is probably the blandest color there is.
There is a lot of arguments for hating Otoha, she did a lot of shady and unnecessarily selfish stuff - definitely. I will respect anyone's opinion for disliking her solely based on her past actions.
However, I also support the argument that her misdemeanors at least also gave her somewhat of a character. After all, she is actually the most realistic teenager out of all the girls so far.
Think about it, we have girls that (think they) talk to gods, we have heiresses of multibillion companies, we have severely abused and traumatized girls, girls that have severe depression or extreme issues with self confidence, girls that have lived millions of years and a girl that wants to be violently fucked ber her uncle who actually is her Dad.
Out of all of these individuals, I personally think, Otoha is the most "normal" one, as in, she acts the most like someone you and me would probably know in real life, at least from back in high school times.
That can of course be interpreted as being very forgettable and boring, but I see it as being a nice representation of normalcy, of an average girl, doing things that average girls do.
She is relatively calm and collected compared to most girls, she has typical hobbies that fit her age, she is facing issues that are common in her stage in life and she has flaws. Yes, she is lying, she has been manipulative, she has done selfish things and she seems constantly indecisive and unsure what to do. But almost all teenagers do exactly that.
But she did none of those things to a comically evil level, unlike someone like Nodoka or Ami. Some people even brought up that other characters did similarly heinous deeds, yet are not treated as harshly as Otoha is.
And I think it comes down to her being "too normal" to cover for her shortcomings, as she rarely does anything noteworthy enough to distract from those actions. She ultimately just wants to be left alone and do her thing.
At the end of the day, I am convinced that most of us here, if thrown into the universe of LiL, would turn out to be an 'Otoha'. Meaning, we would most likely not have any extremely outer-worldly or traumatic backstory, no crazily unusual character traits, just a pretty average person with maybe a bit of perverted tendencies here and there, but nothing too dramatic.
Thinking of it that way, I feel like I can relate to Otoha probably the most out of all the girls in this game. So what if you are relatively boring in comparison? It does not make you a bad person or unworthy of attention.
Also her butt is nice.
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Only when she gets like this
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Good gravy, this does unhealthy things for me.
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A girl should be forgiven if:
1. She is cute / hot
2. Cock punishment
We should all be understanding and give Otoha a chance to redeem herself
1. She is cute / hot
2. Cock punishment
We should all be understanding and give Otoha a chance to redeem herself
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Otoha is fucking hot. and no, this is not Rin talking despite the pfp
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When it comes to "normal" or "common" girls, I'd probably consider Futaba and Kirin the most realistic girls on average.
Chika and Otoha would be two extremes, in a way:
Otoha also struggles to take care of herself without her parents around, unsure of how to feed herself, while Chika has basically became a parent and makes sure to feed her little sister and herself, and Yumi when she can.
Otoha even seems to prefer younger boys while Chika prefers older men, and they both like girls, just probably not as much as they like specific males.
They're somewhat opposites, which may have been the point. In conclusion:
Chika and Otoha would be two extremes, in a way:
- Chika:
- Who desperately wants security and love and has to work her ass off because her parents are gone, and she has a kid and friend (Yumi) to take care of.
- Otoha:
- Who wants more than just security and love and doesn't have to do anything because her parents and friend (Nodoka) actually care about her future, and have made sure to get her whatever she wants or might need.
Otoha also struggles to take care of herself without her parents around, unsure of how to feed herself, while Chika has basically became a parent and makes sure to feed her little sister and herself, and Yumi when she can.
Otoha even seems to prefer younger boys while Chika prefers older men, and they both like girls, just probably not as much as they like specific males.
They're somewhat opposites, which may have been the point. In conclusion:
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Ya know, I just thought, if gods are tied to the moons and iirc paranormal shit (or at least extra paranormal) happens a shitton/usually (not exclusively) at night, when there is a moon, then the fuck will happen if a solar eclipse happens?
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Man this just made me realize that I don't think I've ever eaten a single pretzel my entire life (and it's completely possible where I live) the images makes them seem like a delightful thing to eat except one image
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i was helping him not to be a fucking pussy. "wah-wah-wah". a baby-back bitch basically.
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Maybe that's how an Ami is born.
Assuming the Moon is Sekai or a representation of her, which might be why Ami wants to bring the Moon back:
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On the other hand, I'm not entirely sure who the Sun is supposed to be, yet. Possibly either Akira or Nozomu. Maybe Tsubasa...somehow. Need more intel, or I've just missed certain info.
Did not expect for Pretzels to be ruined for me today. What a world...
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All of those Otoha discussion harkens me back to one thing. While I definitely don't endorse her gradual depravation, but to those who considers Otoha not "important":
Sometimes Otoha feels really like a total antithesis to Akira who always looms in self-pity and self-deprecation. Instead she has a great potential of hubris so that she takes everything as granted. Yet their decision is identical.
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Sometimes Otoha feels really like a total antithesis to Akira who always looms in self-pity and self-deprecation. Instead she has a great potential of hubris so that she takes everything as granted. Yet their decision is identical.
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Man now I'm wondering about Yumi and Nodoka, just how the hell would that be like?
By the way if it was instead side cast, I'd go for Chinami and Tsukasa, Chinami would definitely start Chinami Corp while Tsukasa will get parental attention she needs by Chika.
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(if not very into theorizing, I recommend skipping this one)
I've mentioned this before, but bringing the moon back makes even more sense if Sekai initially never died. Her death would be related to reset stuff, by having Maya exist, which would in turn make her die. So, while it could be "impossible" to change the real world, it would be more possible to change/change back what was altered by the fake world in the first place.
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Dark Route.
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IIRC there are other saves at: "C:\Users\"Your Username"\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\Test2-1577602671
Ah yes, Kirin the most average girl, i remember when half my class met my teacher in private to show him their panties xd And also traumatize a classmate by jerking the teacher while fucking her.
(i mean not the same but both are perverts)
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